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kevenh
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I think Val Thorens has been mentioned as a motorhome possibility at MHF.
I went as a plane passenger.
There is a lift/cable car up to the main resort area from the valley so maybe that’s where MH campsites are.
Anyway, I remember it being good for all abilities with skiing to the door possible - for those staying at the resort in rooms.
I went as a plane passenger.
There is a lift/cable car up to the main resort area from the valley so maybe that’s where MH campsites are.
Anyway, I remember it being good for all abilities with skiing to the door possible - for those staying at the resort in rooms.
If you are going to the 3 valleys Val Torrens has the most reliable snow because it's the highest coldest windiest place. I don't know if there is an aire there but the kids in a pop top will be pretty much guaranteed to hate skiing ever again. I would go to Brides Les Bains and take the funicular up every day to les Arcs if you really want to go in a MH but I wouldn't go in the MH at all by choice.
When our kids were young we went a few times driving out to Les Menuires. It's in the same ski area and valley as Val Torrens but lower. We rented apartments from the local agency its way cheaper than buying a package holiday and depending how the school holidays fall in Christmas 21 you might get a week in before Christmas which would be really cheap although even Christmas week isn't terrible price wise. I don't know how warm pop tops are but the coldest daytime temperature we had was -20. The ideal of being cooped up in a motorhome probably cold with the family trying to keep all the ski gear out of the way and get it dry for the next day just wouldn't appeal!
When our kids were young we went a few times driving out to Les Menuires. It's in the same ski area and valley as Val Torrens but lower. We rented apartments from the local agency its way cheaper than buying a package holiday and depending how the school holidays fall in Christmas 21 you might get a week in before Christmas which would be really cheap although even Christmas week isn't terrible price wise. I don't know how warm pop tops are but the coldest daytime temperature we had was -20. The ideal of being cooped up in a motorhome probably cold with the family trying to keep all the ski gear out of the way and get it dry for the next day just wouldn't appeal!
Just tried to look at apartment prices but it's all showing as unavailable not surprisingly!! Just as a starter try Agence de Belleville. If you go down the self catering appt route another good resort for beginners is Flaine we had our cheapest ever ski holiday there one Christmas. It was probably 20 years ago! But the apartment was about £500 for the 5 of us and incuded ski hire and a lift pass I've never seen a similar deal again!
My SIL lives in France and they were coming to the UK for Christmas so they left their car at Geneva. We flew out on queasyjet took the car skiing for a week and left it at Geneva for them to collect the next day.
My SIL lives in France and they were coming to the UK for Christmas so they left their car at Geneva. We flew out on queasyjet took the car skiing for a week and left it at Geneva for them to collect the next day.
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Who knows but I remember the coldest day there -25 on a slow chairlift!!!!Val Thorens? Or have I anglicised a foreign word?
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I've done night skiing. Gave up when I couldn't get warm enough from the energy put into skiing down to survive the chairlift back up
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From a non skiers point or view it's not sounding that appealing, perhaps I should just pay the £1000 each and let them go on the 2022 school trip.
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Might not be applicable due to travel restrictions but Borovets in Bulgaria is a good beginners venue. Need a plane ride instead of Moho though. It’s very cheap compared to France and while it doesn’t have the hundreds of miles of ski pistes that alpine resorts have, there are other positives. Lessons all day instead of half days - much better for new starters. Tons of cheap restaurants and bars/cafes. We still go for a cheap quick fix now and then. Mixed bag of accommodation. Yanakiev hotel lovely and overlooks the baby slopes.
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kevenh
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A none skier would have to like winter hiking - usually on snow. Unless you're at a low altitude resort.From a non skiers point or view it's not sounding that appealing, perhaps I should just pay the £1000 each and let them go on the 2022 school trip.
My wife is a none-skier and Val Thorens was OK. She likes winter scenery & hiking and there was a young mum who didn't often ski that trip to join her.
Sauze d’Oulx for a none skier was also OK.
Would your none skiers try snowshoe walking? Maybe your chosen resort has an ice bar or ice hotel
I am not big-ing up the options for none-skiers. IMO they would get bored quickly at a Ski resort, esp. if it is much longer than a week long trip.
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That brings back some memories ... last time I skied Borovets was around 1987 when I helped on my son's school trip. Four adults and 30+ 9-10 year old children .
We used to fight to pay the drinks bill at dinner in the hotel - 4 beers and 30+ soft drinks cost the equivalent of £1
and if you spent anything in the shops you got the change in Toblerone bars.
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Agree Sauze a decent option for non skiers. Some pretty scenery and shops etc. Also a little on foot lift ride to the plateau for lunch meeting with those skiing. Good sunbathing spot too bizarrely.A none skier would have to like winter hiking - usually on snow. Unless you're at a low altitude resort.
My wife is a none-skier and Val Thorens was OK. She likes winter scenery & hiking and there was a young mum who didn't often ski that trip to join her.
Sauze d’Oulx for a none skier was also OK.
Would your none skiers try snowshoe walking? Maybe your chosen resort has an ice bar or ice hotel
I am not big-ing up the options for none-skiers. IMO they would get bored quickly at a Ski resort, esp. if it is much longer than a week long trip.
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Yes, thanks for the reminder - lunch meetings.The gondolas, cable cars and chairlifts will all typically take pedestrians; so getting up the slope to catch up with the skiers at restaurants or to access higher walking trails is possible. There'll be a none-skier lift pass needed. So factor in how often you'd use a lift pass. i.e. if it is a rare possibility you could PAYG, for example. It may be free at some resorts.
Hmm! Not sure how they'd get on with drag lifts but they are getting rarer.
Camping Caravaneige Le Champ du Moulin is where we went in in 2017the RV, we went in the April half term so snow on the lower slopes was a bit variable higher it was fine. A bubble up the road takes you to Des 2 Alpes for skiing, this closes around 18.00 I believe from memory. I would go again but the wife has less than zero interest in skiing. 
Being much lower down and going late we were able to sit outside in the evening without freezing to death.
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Bride les Bains has a gondola that takes you up to Meribel, you’re thinking of Bourg st Maurice.........it has a funicular going to Les Arcs.
We had a great time there heres the plateau at the end of the day
We (me, hubby, 2 daughters ages 7&8) drove to Arc 2000 in February half term. It's the highest resort in Les Arcs. We stayed in a self-catering chalet.
The resort is great; car free (all parking is underground), lovely restaurants, not too busy and everything on hand - I believe each hotel was ski-in and ski-out. Perfect for families. And absolutely excellent snow, with very extensive runs. The only down side, which I think is the same for most (French) resorts, was the tortuous traffic jams on the way in and out of resort; but it was half-term and that's unfortunately just how it is when changeover day is Saturday and the whole mountain empties and refills in one day!
We've briefly discussed taking the motorhome. But:
- we already have too much stuff in the MH for summer holidays, without trying to store bulky ski gear, boots, helmets, skis etc
- once there we'd have no-where to put (and dry overnight) the damp bulky ski gear, boots (you DO NOT want to start each day with wet boots!) etc
- I think you have to carry snow chains to reach most French resorts. We always have them, but have never had to use them. But, if they were needed (and you never know until you're up the mountain roads), the idea of trying to pull in to a snow chain bay in a MH and fit them quickly, inevitably in the dark, at the end of a long journey, with a line of impatient French drivers behind, is not appealing
- the thought of having to cook on the MH 3-stove for a week's skiing puts me off
- the various scenarios of 'things that could go wrong' (eg frozen pipes, water tanks etc etc) is a concern
- being at a campsite in the lower resorts means you have to get up to the higher resorts to start skiing, eg by funicular (as mentioned above) or bus. But I expect it's a lot cheaper..
- finally, we don't think our marriage would survive the stress of even the thought of it, let alone doing it!
We might re-consider when our darling daughters have flown the nest, but for now, with four of us in a small space, it's simply on the 'too difficult' list.... and we're experienced skiers and our girls are working their way through the ESF levels...
Just hoping with everything crossed that we can hit the slopes this season, though it's looking unlikely
The resort is great; car free (all parking is underground), lovely restaurants, not too busy and everything on hand - I believe each hotel was ski-in and ski-out. Perfect for families. And absolutely excellent snow, with very extensive runs. The only down side, which I think is the same for most (French) resorts, was the tortuous traffic jams on the way in and out of resort; but it was half-term and that's unfortunately just how it is when changeover day is Saturday and the whole mountain empties and refills in one day!
We've briefly discussed taking the motorhome. But:
- we already have too much stuff in the MH for summer holidays, without trying to store bulky ski gear, boots, helmets, skis etc
- once there we'd have no-where to put (and dry overnight) the damp bulky ski gear, boots (you DO NOT want to start each day with wet boots!) etc
- I think you have to carry snow chains to reach most French resorts. We always have them, but have never had to use them. But, if they were needed (and you never know until you're up the mountain roads), the idea of trying to pull in to a snow chain bay in a MH and fit them quickly, inevitably in the dark, at the end of a long journey, with a line of impatient French drivers behind, is not appealing
- the thought of having to cook on the MH 3-stove for a week's skiing puts me off
- the various scenarios of 'things that could go wrong' (eg frozen pipes, water tanks etc etc) is a concern
- being at a campsite in the lower resorts means you have to get up to the higher resorts to start skiing, eg by funicular (as mentioned above) or bus. But I expect it's a lot cheaper..
- finally, we don't think our marriage would survive the stress of even the thought of it, let alone doing it!
We might re-consider when our darling daughters have flown the nest, but for now, with four of us in a small space, it's simply on the 'too difficult' list.... and we're experienced skiers and our girls are working their way through the ESF levels...
Just hoping with everything crossed that we can hit the slopes this season, though it's looking unlikely
They will love the school trip but you may well love it tooFrom a non skiers point or view it's not sounding that appealing, perhaps I should just pay the £1000 each and let them go on the 2022 school trip.
We must have been there 4 or 5 times in the past 10 years. If you go again the Wistler bar is great for live music. We go in a group with friends (up to 14 of us) and look for last minute deals the first week in January the cheapest week. The best one was £399 Inc flights transfers half board in the Aguille Rouge hotel ski in and out free wine with evening dinner etc. I just don't see how going in the MH makes sense if you can get a deal like that.We (me, hubby, 2 daughters ages 7&8) drove to Arc 2000 in February half term. It's the highest resort in Les Arcs. We stayed in a self-catering chalet.
The resort is great; car free (all parking is underground), lovely restaurants, not too busy and everything on hand - I believe each hotel was ski-in and ski-out. Perfect for families. And absolutely excellent snow, with very extensive runs. The only down side, which I think is the same for most (French) resorts, was the tortuous traffic jams on the way in and out of resort; but it was half-term and that's unfortunately just how it is when changeover day is Saturday and the whole mountain empties and refills in one day!
We've briefly discussed taking the motorhome. But:
- we already have too much stuff in the MH for summer holidays, without trying to store bulky ski gear, boots, helmets, skis etc
- once there we'd have no-where to put (and dry overnight) the damp bulky ski gear, boots (you DO NOT want to start each day with wet boots!) etc
- I think you have to carry snow chains to reach most French resorts. We always have them, but have never had to use them. But, if they were needed (and you never know until you're up the mountain roads), the idea of trying to pull in to a snow chain bay in a MH and fit them quickly, inevitably in the dark, at the end of a long journey, with a line of impatient French drivers behind, is not appealing
- the thought of having to cook on the MH 3-stove for a week's skiing puts me off
- the various scenarios of 'things that could go wrong' (eg frozen pipes, water tanks etc etc) is a concern
- being at a campsite in the lower resorts means you have to get up to the higher resorts to start skiing, eg by funicular (as mentioned above) or bus. But I expect it's a lot cheaper..
- finally, we don't think our marriage would survive the stress of even the thought of it, let alone doing it!
We might re-consider when our darling daughters have flown the nest, but for now, with four of us in a small space, it's simply on the 'too difficult' list.... and we're experienced skiers and our girls are working their way through the ESF levels...
Just hoping with everything crossed that we can hit the slopes this season, though it's looking unlikely
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OK so I'm primarily a Snowboarder, but agree with many of the posts above that motorhomes are not ideal for snowboard/ski holidays - and certainly not for first timers
In addition, I don't see any difference between in sleeping in a tent or a pop top - would you want your kids sleeping in a tent in possibly -20 degrees C and 50mph winds?
I would normally suggest to first timers that they book a package deal (fly or self drive) that includes an apartment/hotel/chalet for a week and having gained the experience of a snowboard/ski holiday decide whether it is for them and if so, whether they'd want to do it in a motorhome
I use my motorhome to travel to the resort, it means that I can carry more toys (snowboard, paraglider, unicycle, etc) but when I arrive I stay in a quality hotel - swimming pool, sauna, steam room, good restaurant, bar, etc. normally for 4 weeks or so
I know there are some who do use their motorhome for snowboard/ski holidays & good luck to them, I hope they have enjoyable trips - but it's not for me
In addition, I don't see any difference between in sleeping in a tent or a pop top - would you want your kids sleeping in a tent in possibly -20 degrees C and 50mph winds?
I would normally suggest to first timers that they book a package deal (fly or self drive) that includes an apartment/hotel/chalet for a week and having gained the experience of a snowboard/ski holiday decide whether it is for them and if so, whether they'd want to do it in a motorhome
I use my motorhome to travel to the resort, it means that I can carry more toys (snowboard, paraglider, unicycle, etc) but when I arrive I stay in a quality hotel - swimming pool, sauna, steam room, good restaurant, bar, etc. normally for 4 weeks or so
I know there are some who do use their motorhome for snowboard/ski holidays & good luck to them, I hope they have enjoyable trips - but it's not for me
Perhaps try the skiiing section for some more positive response from people who actually have and do go in their motorhomes . Not being funny but its a bit negative this post .
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Chamonix is a very good ski area with a wide range of areas for beginners to advanced. Access is less of an issue than some resorts plus it has the height/variety that you can generally find snow (I have been in April and had a great time!) Its other big advantage is that it is a good town too so for non-skiers it has other attractions plus a train station so day trips elsewhere are possible if you don't want to move the van. Not sure about the diesel heater but if you have decent sleeping bags it should be fine and it will be an adventure. Personally, I would want a fully winterised van so water/waste etc is protected and have decent heating to provide a nice environment/hot water etc.
Second that, we have stayed there every Easter for the last 4 years..except this one obviously. We have tentatively booked the campsite for 2021. The first year we sat in T-shirt’s outside at the campsite until the sun went down. We have only had a heater on at night on a couple of occasions. The restaurant is lovely and the sauna is a welcome addition. The last lift down is 7pm so we often ate in the day and then either booked the restaurant or cooked for ourselves. Also the roads are no problem either. Fingers x for next year,Camping Caravaneige Le Champ du Moulin is where we went in in 2017the RV, we went in the April half term so snow on the lower slopes was a bit variable higher it was fine. A bubble up the road takes you to Des 2 Alpes for skiing, this closes around 18.00 I believe from memory. I would go again but the wife has less than zero interest in skiing.
Being much lower down and going late we were able to sit outside in the evening without freezing to death.
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If you decide skiing then you really do not need to go to massive resorts as I think you are all beginners.
Time of year will tend to influence where you go in order to try and guarantee snow. However if you go with the van then I can would suggest you want to be campsite based. A great area that does cater for all abilities but is not huge and hence doesn't have expensive lift passes is Val Cenis. Check it out, there is a great campsite that you can walk to the main lift, it has very good facilities and a very nice cosy bar/restaurant.
The icing on the cake isthat it was part of the ACSI scheme after mid March. If you have real experts in your party then you can get the free bus to Bonneval Sur Arc and various other small resorts.
Time of year will tend to influence where you go in order to try and guarantee snow. However if you go with the van then I can would suggest you want to be campsite based. A great area that does cater for all abilities but is not huge and hence doesn't have expensive lift passes is Val Cenis. Check it out, there is a great campsite that you can walk to the main lift, it has very good facilities and a very nice cosy bar/restaurant.
The icing on the cake isthat it was part of the ACSI scheme after mid March. If you have real experts in your party then you can get the free bus to Bonneval Sur Arc and various other small resorts.
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We have taken our MH skiing for several years & love doing so for the same reason I do in the summer - you get to take your own personal space & enjoy the journey to get there!
Its not a value equation for me as I could just as easily get a cheap package holiday in the summer & do away with the van if that was my aim!
It does cost initially for winter tyres/chains/etc but the more subsequent times they are used brings the average down - in my head anyway!
If you van has a decent level of winterisation then go for it! Must admit we like campsites for skiing as they will have drying facilities etc.
We go to Livigno, Italy which is snow sure & more than suitable for beginners with snow parks/kids areas - duty free as well to take the sting out. We took our 21 & 19 year old in February (just before CV19), had a great time.
After all, if you think about it your hardly in the van anyway!
Seen pop tops in resort - they use an additional insulated cover.
Plenty of advice in skiing section.
Rob
Its not a value equation for me as I could just as easily get a cheap package holiday in the summer & do away with the van if that was my aim!
It does cost initially for winter tyres/chains/etc but the more subsequent times they are used brings the average down - in my head anyway!
If you van has a decent level of winterisation then go for it! Must admit we like campsites for skiing as they will have drying facilities etc.
We go to Livigno, Italy which is snow sure & more than suitable for beginners with snow parks/kids areas - duty free as well to take the sting out. We took our 21 & 19 year old in February (just before CV19), had a great time.
After all, if you think about it your hardly in the van anyway!
Seen pop tops in resort - they use an additional insulated cover.
Plenty of advice in skiing section.
Rob
Try Austria.
depending on your budgie there are some great sites where you can have an individual bathroom - useful to dry your stuff.
grubhof is a lovely site and st lofer ideal for beginners - limited for max 2-3 days if experienced.
depending on your budgie there are some great sites where you can have an individual bathroom - useful to dry your stuff.
grubhof is a lovely site and st lofer ideal for beginners - limited for max 2-3 days if experienced.
Hi,
At least 4-5 campsites in Livigno we use campingpemont.IT - even has a spa area for small charge!
Less than 10 min walk to lift where there is a ski locker so no lugging your kit around.
Village at 1800M so cold -25 at times in Feb!
Found this rob0114 http://www.aquafresca.info/ never been just looked on google maps.
Sorry wrong place.
Sorry wrong place.
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