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Agreed.The person whining is a bit of a muppet.
More agreement.If you have a vehicle you should know the rules that govern its use and ownership
Bucketfuls of agreeing type stuff.If you canna be bothered to follow them and get fines DO NOT whinge..
Now we differ. "Double his 'fine'", and double the amount the greedy gits at Westminster get, so they can send another MP on a fact-finding 'expedition' to the Himalayas to count the empty beer cans on Mt Everest, or to meet up with some Argey stiff head who says he caught bird flu in Port Stanley in 1982, after he invaded and raped all the British penguins.Double his fine for being a whiney whinging twonk !!
Whether you find it "offensive" or not does not have a bearing on whether it is an "offence".No argument there........Read my first post.
Personally, I dont find it 'offensive' to forget something. However, I do find it 'offensive' to milk everyone blind because they forgot.
What? Do what time?? Crime?? Dear oh dear. Crime is someone being shot, raped, murdered, held up by a man armed with a large knife, stealing lead..............This is just a way of raising cash. Lets think of another one.
"Unless your name begins with the letter Z, you will be fined £100". Rather then "Unless you declare that your car/truck/mechanically propelled vehicle is not taxed, and you dont let us know, even though we really do know, because you didnt send us any money, we will fine you £80 for failure to declare something we are already aware of". Dick Turpin made it shorter, he said "Your money or your life".
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Of coarse it does. 'Offence' against whom? If you 'offend', in a criminal stance, then you are 'offending' against those who are your peers. I'm a 'peer', and so it pertains to me. Therefore, If I'm 'offended' by the word, used in the context of crime, then I'm perfectly entitled to be.Whether you find it "offensive" or not does not have a bearing on whether it is an "offence".
Its as farcical as fining people for not producing information already known, and of coarse it helps the debate, as it produces a parallel of farce to SORN.you rather facile suggestion that having a name beginning with the letter Z might make you liable to a fine of £100 does not help the debate.
No, I did not forgot how laws are enacted, I explained (partially) how they were i.e. contrasted the path that the SORN legislation passed through as against your suggestion about names beginning with Z.Of coarse it does. 'Offence' against whom? If you 'offend', in a criminal stance, then you are 'offending' against those who are your peers. I'm a 'peer', and so it pertains to me. Therefore, If I'm 'offended' by the word, used in the context of crime, then I'm perfectly entitled to be.
Its as farcical as fining people for not producing information already known, and of coarse it helps the debate, as it produces a parallel of farce to SORN.
You seem to forget that in a democracy, (that we used to have but are rapidly losing), laws enacted by The Queen, after due debate in both houses of parliament, are for the people, by the people. Old King John didn't like that either, back in 1215. Maybe a straw poll on the usefulness and integrity of fining for fining's sake should be considered when first these stupid act's are put forwards?
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Despite my comment in my last post (the two must have crossed "in the post", I would like to say something here as it does shift the issue along a bit.So the consensus is that if its a democratically past law everything is fine & it should not be questioned, but the democratic vote to leave the EU is wrong ????
Agreed.
More agreement.
Bucketfuls of agreeing type stuff.
Now we differ. "Double his 'fine'", and double the amount the greedy gits at Westminster get, so they can send another MP on a fact-finding 'expedition' to the Himalayas to count the empty beer cans on Mt Everest, or to meet up with some Argey stiff head who says he caught bird flu in Port Stanley in 1982, after he invaded and raped all the British penguins.
Enough is enough! Motorists are more and more being used as cash cows by the government of the day. New 'regulations' all end in one vital point........The amount you will be fined.
Half of all local government expenditure is made up from parking fines.......HALF!
The police made £1.6 million pounds in the sale of confiscated cars this year so far.
And you dont see that as a cashcow??
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It dosent quite work like that. A car left on private property uninsured whilst the owner(s) are away abroad can be taken and auctioned. Likewise a single person in hospital for a protracted period of time, who fails to renew their vehicle tax and insurance can also have it removed from their property, auctioned, and the money disappear into 'police sources'.When a car is confiscated for no insurance the offender is issued with the paperwork which enables them to get the car back by obtaining insurance.
Yes, should buy a few take away's for the 'lads' in the station.If that money is ploughed back into policing then that's good as far as I'm concerned.
They no longer send out reminders because you only have to SORN once.
I thought they were a subsidy to keep my tax down and my pension upAnd you dont see that as a cashcow??
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No mate, it's a subsidy against us all so that more money can be sent to really poor countries who have space research and atom bombs.I thought they were a subsidy to keep my tax down and my pension up
Ah well, so long as its a good cause unlike councillors' allowancesNo mate, it's a subsidy against us all so that more money can be sent to really poor countries who have space research and atom bombs.