Is there a Peugeot Metropolis Forum Page specifically for owners of the Peugeot Metropolis trike?
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The Motorcycles and Motorhomes forum on here has information that may be useful regarding trailer use etc.
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I also own a Metropolis and love it,perfect to tow behind motorhome with the right trailer.
Would love to see a forum somewhere but as they are quite unusual of course we are in a minority.
As Jim says we could start it now using your header if you like.
Would love to see a forum somewhere but as they are quite unusual of course we are in a minority.
As Jim says we could start it now using your header if you like.
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Forgot about this,did sign up when I first got mine but a just made a longer introduction post.
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Great. I've just purchased a secondhand Armitage MP3 trailer and will shortly start to "modify it" to suite the Metropolis. I have to say from the start that Wayne the MD of Armitages has been very helpful and supportive even though I didn't buy the trailer from him.
First of all I'll start with the trailer - having deliberated on the type (low loader, side loader etc.) I went for the transverse trailer as the overall length is less than 2 metrs and having checked with Eurotunnel it doesn't appear to add anything to the cost of taking the MH under the tunnel. Secondly the Armitage trailers have a good reputation for build quality and they are galvanised. The payload is good for up to 375KG so again the Metropolis is well within limits. The MP3 trailer has two faults in respect of the Metropolis.
1. The ramp is too short and speaking to several MP3 owners its even too short for the MP3 in some situations
2. The front wheel locator cups are not suitable for the Metropolis and Armitage have since modified the trailer to remove the wheel retainers in favour of a frame bolted on to the end of the base. This has the benefit of making the loading more flexible as you can load from either side.
3. Finally on the trailer I intend to fit a jockey wheel on the opposite side to the coupling as it would be good to be able to load and unload the Metropolis when uncoupled and be able to maneuver it around.
Over the next few days I will add more questions and experiences
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I’m somewhat surprised by that; ordinarily, adding a trailer almost doubles the price.
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So was I yet both Armitage and CMF Trailers state that the short length of the transverse trailer is a positive feature of their trailers when using Eurotunnel. All I did was put in the length of our MH to get a price. Then re-enter the details but add in the trailer and I was surprised there was no difference in price. Now that may turn out to be a fluke but that was what came up and as I say CMF say it "could save money on ferries" In my defence I haven't actually booked a Eurotunnel crossing yet so a may have to eat my words.I’m somewhat surprised by that; ordinarily, adding a trailer almost doubles the price.
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Inital Metropolis Experiences.
Having owned and ridden an MP3 for over 4 years back in 2009 to 2012 I got to know about riding a trike and the initial strangeness of the tilting suspension so while the Metropolis is a bit different its not that different. I may have gone for another MP3 and was undecided as there wasn’t a lot of differences however the Yourban models were quickly discounted as they looked seriously short of storage space. In the end it came down to price and condition. It appeared to me that the MP3 held its price pretty well and there were quite a few for sale. I couldn’t really justify a new model as we probably wouldn’t use it that much to justify the initial cost and depreciation. In the end it came down to simply price and condition and a Metropolis came on the market that fitted the criteria and was very well specified – job done. The Metropolis is much heavier though and me being 10 years older I need be aware of that. Comparing the MP3 with the Metropolis is not really fair as the 2009 MP3 was “basic” in comparison to the new MP3 and the Metropolis is in a whole new class than the old MP3. Things like electronic parking brake, ABS and traction control just give a feeling of security. My Metropolis also has the front and rear dashcams fitted however I haven’t been able to figure out how they work yet as there are no instructions. Certainly the Metropolis has better storage than the old MP3 and with a topbox fitted adds even more so shopping and storing 2 helmets isn’t a problem. The provision of a USB port may be useful as will the Sat Nav holder (or should that be smartphone holder). The Peugeot just seems to be better quality somehow with more attention to detail however mine still thinks in kilometers per hour rather than miles per hour. I understand that the latest Azure models are configurable. The 400cc Metropolis has understandably better performance and surprisingly better economy than my old 250cc MP3 however all these trikes have poor fuel capacity (around 3 gallons) giving a range of sub 200 miles. I like the tilt lock at not only traffic lights but when getting on and off and wheeling it around into the garage. As mentioned in a previous post I have to modify the trailer ramps as the Metropolis has a lower ground clearance than the MP3 and the standard Armitage ramp is too short. Looking around there are several folding ramps available with some even having a max weight limit of 1000kg. One option to consider is modifying the Armitage ramp by putting a 10 x 2 wooden plank in the centre halfway up the ramp to raise the rear wheel by 2 or maybe 4 inches to give better clearance. The issue is the apex at the top of the ramp that fouls the underside of the bike so I need to increase the clearance. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Having owned and ridden an MP3 for over 4 years back in 2009 to 2012 I got to know about riding a trike and the initial strangeness of the tilting suspension so while the Metropolis is a bit different its not that different. I may have gone for another MP3 and was undecided as there wasn’t a lot of differences however the Yourban models were quickly discounted as they looked seriously short of storage space. In the end it came down to price and condition. It appeared to me that the MP3 held its price pretty well and there were quite a few for sale. I couldn’t really justify a new model as we probably wouldn’t use it that much to justify the initial cost and depreciation. In the end it came down to simply price and condition and a Metropolis came on the market that fitted the criteria and was very well specified – job done. The Metropolis is much heavier though and me being 10 years older I need be aware of that. Comparing the MP3 with the Metropolis is not really fair as the 2009 MP3 was “basic” in comparison to the new MP3 and the Metropolis is in a whole new class than the old MP3. Things like electronic parking brake, ABS and traction control just give a feeling of security. My Metropolis also has the front and rear dashcams fitted however I haven’t been able to figure out how they work yet as there are no instructions. Certainly the Metropolis has better storage than the old MP3 and with a topbox fitted adds even more so shopping and storing 2 helmets isn’t a problem. The provision of a USB port may be useful as will the Sat Nav holder (or should that be smartphone holder). The Peugeot just seems to be better quality somehow with more attention to detail however mine still thinks in kilometers per hour rather than miles per hour. I understand that the latest Azure models are configurable. The 400cc Metropolis has understandably better performance and surprisingly better economy than my old 250cc MP3 however all these trikes have poor fuel capacity (around 3 gallons) giving a range of sub 200 miles. I like the tilt lock at not only traffic lights but when getting on and off and wheeling it around into the garage. As mentioned in a previous post I have to modify the trailer ramps as the Metropolis has a lower ground clearance than the MP3 and the standard Armitage ramp is too short. Looking around there are several folding ramps available with some even having a max weight limit of 1000kg. One option to consider is modifying the Armitage ramp by putting a 10 x 2 wooden plank in the centre halfway up the ramp to raise the rear wheel by 2 or maybe 4 inches to give better clearance. The issue is the apex at the top of the ramp that fouls the underside of the bike so I need to increase the clearance. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I currently have a transverse trailer for my two wheelers,easy to use but find it virtually impossible to reverse more than a few feet.Itwants to jackknife all the time.
I have driven all classes of trucks,towed caravans and wagon and drags.
Upside it’s well balanced and takes seconds to detach,lower the jockey wheel and push it around if necessary then drop it back on the trailer ball if you need to move or unload.
Easy to stand upright also If space is tight.
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When you say you “re-enter the details but add in the trailer”, did you simply add the dimensions of the trailer to your MH length or did you specifically select the trailer option?
If the former, then I’m not surprised as Eurotunnel don’t charge by length. If the latter, then I remain surprised as that usually doubles the price.
Ian
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Hi Ian,
I started again and added the trailer seperately. As I said I didn't go through to complete the transaction and backed out when I got the price. Stop Press:
I have just tried again and two things
1st of all the price has gone up significantly (£275) and 2 the cost of the trailer is now approx £151 so things have changed since before Christmas. Sorry Ian I stand corrected
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That is one of my worries - reversing. I could reverse the caravan piece of cake but failed miserably when reversing a small Erde trailer and used to simply unhook it, move it then re-attach. I'm hoping to do the same with the trike - hence the idea of adding a second jockey wheel as I don't want it to tip up
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When you tow your Metropolis - do you lock the tilting mechanism while towing? The guy I bought my trailer from mentioned he had read that it was best to leave the Piaggio MP3 tilt unlocked during transporting. I can't see anything in the Peugeot manual about it but can't think why it would be a problem either. Any thoughts?
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Hi All,
Can anyone recommend which handlebar tie down straps is suitable for the Metropolis or even the MP3 as I assume they are the same. The ones on sale on either Amazon or the Internet are either in two part and somehow don't look man enough. I'm not keen on ones that hook onto the trailer and would prefer enclosed carabiner type that are unlikely to come off. I ordered some rear tie down double loop straps from Amazon but will probably send them back as they look flimsy and weak.
Can anyone recommend which handlebar tie down straps is suitable for the Metropolis or even the MP3 as I assume they are the same. The ones on sale on either Amazon or the Internet are either in two part and somehow don't look man enough. I'm not keen on ones that hook onto the trailer and would prefer enclosed carabiner type that are unlikely to come off. I ordered some rear tie down double loop straps from Amazon but will probably send them back as they look flimsy and weak.
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I've modified my Armitage trailer to suit our Metropolis and all set to go. In the end I used an angle grinder to remove a couple on inches off the inner edges of the wheel locating scoops. I filed the edges down to remove any swarf then split a short length of garden hose and secured it over the modified edges so there was no chance of damaging the paintwork. I prefer the scoops to the Mk2 version as now used by Armitage as they retain the bike wheels so the bike can't move around while towing. The Mk 2 rail arrangement wouldn't stop the bike moving backwards and forewards
After a bit of trial and error I decided on a length of 145mm x 48mm timber which I placed along the centre line of the (flimsy) ramp so the centre of the ramp is in effect extended by a foot or so and the other end resting around two thirds up the ramp. This raises the rear wheel by around 4 inches so that the Metropolis does not bottom out between the front and rear wheels. Finally I added a second jockey wheel to the centre rear of the trailer more as a safety precaution so I can load or unload the Metropolis when disconnected from the Motorhome. To be fair the trailer is fairly stable when loaded but I wanted to prevent it tipping up if we were pushing it around (or it was windy like recently)
After a bit of trial and error I decided on a length of 145mm x 48mm timber which I placed along the centre line of the (flimsy) ramp so the centre of the ramp is in effect extended by a foot or so and the other end resting around two thirds up the ramp. This raises the rear wheel by around 4 inches so that the Metropolis does not bottom out between the front and rear wheels. Finally I added a second jockey wheel to the centre rear of the trailer more as a safety precaution so I can load or unload the Metropolis when disconnected from the Motorhome. To be fair the trailer is fairly stable when loaded but I wanted to prevent it tipping up if we were pushing it around (or it was windy like recently)
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Feedback from my French touring trip towing the Metropolis. First point - crap weather. Mixed thoughts following my experiences. The trailer towed well and using the reversing camera I didn't have any problems reversing short distances. It may be a different story had I needed to reverse more than 10 yds. I didn't notice any difference with performance of the Ducato, nor any difference in MPG. My big problem was I didn't realise how heavy the Metropolis is to move around - particulalry on grass or on a slight slope. I have a weak left leg and that didn't help. Riding was fine but with two up I had to be wary when pulling up to stop signs etc. Thankfully the tilt lock worked a treat as without it I may have struggled. Halfway through the trip I decided that the Metropolis was perhaps too heavy for me but having spoken to other users all who mention similar experiences we have decided to keep the Metropolis and persevere. As I said at the begining the weather was dreadful and this stopped us using the bike as much as we had hoped however when we did use it it was very useful. While loading and unloading was time consuming it wasn't a bind and after one or two goes we got it down to a fine art. Definately a job for two (one on the winch and one to guide it up). We dispenced with the plank of wood and used our levelling ramps to overcome the bottoming out issue. This worked better and means we don't need to carry the plank in future. I did make one mistake - I didn't have the bike fully upright on one occasion and thought that having it lean in towards the MH slightly would help. Sadly not the case as the securing straps on the outside rubbed on the bike panels and marked them. Lesson learnt. Performance and storage was excellent though economy wasn't brilliant. Certainly a larger tank would help as we returned around 140 miles per tank (not willing to go into reserve to deep) One other comment - I bought an Oxford cover and covered the bike while trailering to prevent rain dirt etc. - It turned out to be too flimsy and billowed out alarmingly when looking through the rear view mirrors. I had to tie it down with bungy cords to prevent it ripping itself to shreds. Great for when on site but I need a stronger cover when towing.
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