Peugeot Boxer headlamp reflectors position

[PepnKook]

Simple question, but seen chapter and verse written on it! Looking for a definitive answer in the simplest fashion......where do I stick headlamp deflectors on 2018 Boxer headlamps? Can someone who knows put an X where they go on the below piccies? And do I need them on both headlights? Thanks!

 

[Lenny HB]

Yes you do need them on both lights.
Point the van at a preferably white wall or garage door about 3-4 m away and hold the defector in front off the lamp and move around until the "kick up" disappears.

 

[Geo]

Headlamp deflectors are a bit of a misnomer
They are in reality a Headlamp Mask
Lenny's instructions above are the best way of dealing with possible dazzle problems, the pics below will help you interpret the images that
your looking for.
Image wise the Red area is what you are trying to mask out leaving you with a straight top line of light
Its possible that more modern headlamp images are already a straight line image and no action is reqd

What you should have Now

What you need to mask out

What you need to see when masked

HOPE THAT HELPS
Geo
I should add any type of tape will do such as Duct or Insulation tape BUT be aware if sticking anything to plastic headlamp lenses as the glue can cause long term damage

 

[PepnKook]

Thanks for the replies Lenny and Geo. Not going to be driving at night at all, will have running lights on during the day, so only putting them on to avoid the attentions of any keen Polizei, Polizia or Gendarme, hence the request for an "X marks the spot" diagram! Will be taking them off as soon as we hit UK roads, so a temporary solution is all I'm after. I'll go with the garage door method and take a rough guess where they go.

 

[Fragle]

Peugeot told me they don’t have to be fitted. We no longer bother. Just turn lights to lowest setting.
To be honest they generally sell them next to the breathalyser kits at the port. Says it all. How many European lhd cars in Britain have them when they are here?

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[Lenny HB]

Peugeot told me they don’t have to be fitted. We no longer bother. Just turn lights to lowest setting.
To be honest they generally sell them next to the breathalyser kits at the port. Says it all. How many European lhd cars in Britain have them when they are here?

Obviously who you spoke to hasn't a clue about modern headlamps.
True you don't need to fit them, if travelling in a country for less than 90 days, it is acceptable if your headlamps are adjustable to avoid dazzling oncoming traffic. But modern lamps don't just dip like they used to, the beam kicks up to the kerb side. So unless have lights that are adjustable for flat dipping (most A Class vans have) you need to fit deflectors.

 

[Fragle]

Mine are the same as above photo. On a panel van. We don’t drive much at night. But we did on Saturday for a couple of hours and nobody flashed us to indicate an issue also passed a number of parked police officers in Le Havre no issues. Just saying if you make 2 or 3 trips a year it all adds up

 

[Justamil]

I smile every time someone says I’m not going to drive at night. By the same token, they are not going to drive in heavy rain and not drive through any tunnels. And what about an emergency requiring a night time drive. Just saying.

 

[PepnKook]

Contacted Peugeot and the following response answers my question:-

Newer vehicles typically have ‘flat-beam’ projector headlights (both halogen and Xenon) which do not rise up at the edge like older style headlights, and are therefore far less likely to dazzle oncoming drivers, even when driving on the other side of the road.

European law states that you must not dazzle oncoming drivers and must take measures to ensure this doesn't happen; but it does not mandate the use of deflector stickers to achieve this. In addition to this it’s very difficult to apply head lamp deflectors to new style headlights because they don’t have flat patterned glass any more (they typically have larger sloping clear Perspex covers). It's possible to simply adjust your head lamps to their lowest setting (where possible, Xenon lights are normally self-leveling). However, we do also sell universal deflectors which are available as an accessory via your local dealer, if desired for extra peace of mind.

So with that in mind, I am going to print out a copy from Peugeot and leave it in the van to cover myself, then head off and see what happens!

 

[Kingham]

Contacted Peugeot and the following response answers my question:-

Newer vehicles typically have ‘flat-beam’ projector headlights (both halogen and Xenon) which do not rise up at the edge like older style headlights, and are therefore far less likely to dazzle oncoming drivers, even when driving on the other side of the road.

European law states that you must not dazzle oncoming drivers and must take measures to ensure this doesn't happen; but it does not mandate the use of deflector stickers to achieve this. In addition to this it’s very difficult to apply head lamp deflectors to new style headlights because they don’t have flat patterned glass any more (they typically have larger sloping clear Perspex covers). It's possible to simply adjust your head lamps to their lowest setting (where possible, Xenon lights are normally self-leveling). However, we do also sell universal deflectors which are available as an accessory via your local dealer, if desired for extra peace of mind.

So with that in mind, I am going to print out a copy from Peugeot and leave it in the van to cover myself, then head off and see what happens!

‘Typically’ isn’t the same as definitely, are you happy yours has one of those types of lights fitted.

If in any doubt, I’ve just photographed mine for you. I have Perspex covers fitted to my 2017 Boxer, which came with the corners of the mask positions clearly etched in black. I’ve highlighted them in red, but if you look closely, you can see the black etchings and get a rough idea of where to mask if you feel the need.

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[Lenny HB]

Contacted Peugeot and the following response answers my question:-

Newer vehicles typically have ‘flat-beam’ projector headlights (both halogen and Xenon) which do not rise up at the edge like older style headlights, and are therefore far less likely to dazzle oncoming drivers, even when driving on the other side of the road.

Another twit who hasn't got a clue. Xenon & LED headlamps are flat dipping and also self leveling but Halogen kick up to the kerb side. If not why do Ducato's X250 & X290 have diffent headlamps for RHD & LHD variants.

European law states that you must not dazzle oncoming drivers and must take measures to ensure this doesn't happen; but it does not mandate the use of deflector stickers to achieve this. In addition to this it’s very difficult to apply head lamp deflectors to new style headlights because they don’t have flat patterned glass any more (they typically have larger sloping clear Perspex covers). It's possible to simply adjust your head lamps to their lowest setting (where possible, Xenon lights are normally self-leveling). However, we do also sell universal deflectors which are available as an accessory via your local dealer, if desired for extra peace of mind.

Load of tosh, deflectors are thin plastic and easy to fit on curved surrfaces.

So with that in mind, I am going to print out a copy from Peugeot and leave it in the van to cover myself, then head off and see what happens!

We can have a good laugh when Mr. Plod falls about laughing while he writes you a ticket.
I assume you have it in French on offical notepaper, even then I can see the same result.

A few years ago they had a purge around Calais nicking Brits without defectors, with the current Bx situation wouldn't suprise me if they did it again.

You are a guest in their country so what's wrong with obeying their laws?

 

[Kingham]

@PepnKook

Another safety point has just come to mind too, the advice you received regarding using your lights on their lowest setting is in my opinion, dubious.

The further your light pattern travels, without causing dazzle, the safer it is for you and those around you. You can see further in the dark and other road users will see you better in atrocious conditions.

To deliberately reduce the entire light beam to its lowest setting (which is designed to bring your lights back to optimum, if your load lifts the beam sufficiently) just to avoid the dazzle carries inherent risks.

Correctly placed masks will avoid the dazzle, satisfy the law and leave the rest of the light pattern at its optimum.

 

[PepnKook]

‘Typically’ isn’t the same as definitely, are you happy yours has one of those types of lights fitted.

If in any doubt, I’ve just photographed mine for you. I have Perspex covers fitted to my 2017 Boxer, which came with the corners of the mask positions clearly etched in black. I’ve highlighted them in red, but if you look closely, you can see the black etchings and get a rough idea of where to mask if you feel the need.

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Thanks for doing that, really helpful. I'm going to speak to Peugeot Commercial tomorrow with my VIN to confirm requirement.

 

[Oldbob]

I have driven a lot on continent with commercial vehicles and never had to mask lights. Even when inspected the plod have never questioned it, they question everything else though !
And as someone has said, how many foreign cars over here have masked lights ?