Pets to Europe post B-day

[Gary217]

I think this has been mentioned in other posts in passing, but I haven't seen much on this as a topic. We always take our lab with us and she has visited 10 different countries, and we know that lots of motorhomers (and caravaners) take their pets with them so I am a bit worried about the latest bit of advice coming out, especially as we're planning to go to Spain in May. The advice requires a blood test and around four months lag before the pet can travel - as long as the blood test is clear, if not it's another 30 day wait apparently (according to our vet). The cost of blood test at our vets is a whopping £150 (I haven't tried shopping around so it may be cheaper elsewhere.

Anyway, here's the latest missive on it;

Any pet passports issued in the UK will not be valid for travel to the EU if there's no deal.

If you want your pet to come with you, whether in a deal or no-deal scenario, you will have to contact your vet at least four months before you plan to travel, so you can get the latest advice.

In short, the rules will change if the UK leaves with no deal. You would have to get your cat, dog or ferret microchipped and vaccinated against rabies before it can travel - it would then need a blood sample to be taken at least 30 days after having the vaccination.

This test is basically to make sure the vaccine has worked. You'd then have to wait another three months before you could travel.

 

[Simon Richardson]

I wouldn't worry until we know the outcome of Brexit - there's people out here in Spain who don't know how long they can stay etc - the whole thing is up in the air.

 

[Gary217]

Well, it does put a doubt on whether or not taking the dog in May will be possible, so we'll probably invest in the blood test early enough to ensure she can but that is assuming no other 'curved ball' comes in to scupper taking her. Main reason for posting is to share the risk with others so they can make any necessary arrangements. Hopefully it will all blow over and come to nothing but if it doesn't it's a bummer as we can't leave her for 6 weeks as that's asking too much of friends.
Shame because the current system works so well.

 

[Simon Richardson]

Agreed - the current system works well.

Hope it doesn't put people off Travelling.

 

[mfw]

Leave booking ferry until a couple of weeks before you want to go you will know everything then including the curved balls and wont cost anymore on ferry - or waste any money

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[Sue+dogs]

Unfortunately the uncertainty and extra cost will put me of going to Europe in the van this year.
I travel with two Labradors, the cost of tests and the extra I already pay for Eurotunnel makes it too expensive. I'll wait till some form of resolution occurs.

 

[The Dudess]

Any pet passports issued in the UK will not be valid for travel to the EU if there's no deal.

My dog has a Portuguese Pet Passport (he is a rescue) so I'm hoping that will be OK.

We leave the UK around 25th March for an extended period heading for Crete and therefore crossing over several borders into other EU countries. So we will leave the UK prior to Brexit but will be entering other EU countries after and am still a bit concerned that we may be stopped at one of the borders to have his passport checked.

He is booked in on Thursday for his titre blood test. Hoping that it will be a successful test as he only had his rabies booster in November.

It's all a big worry really. Just wish they'd get on with it.

 

[mfw]

My dog has a Portuguese Pet Passport (he is a rescue) so I'm hoping that will be OK.

We leave the UK around 25th March for an extended period heading for Crete and therefore crossing over several borders into other EU countries. So we will leave the UK prior to Brexit but will be entering other EU countries after and am still a bit concerned that we may be stopped at one of the borders to have his passport checked.

He is booked in on Thursday for his titre blood test. Hoping that it will be a successful test as he only had his rabies booster in November.

It's all a big worry really. Just wish they'd get on with it.

Not worth worrying about wont solve it you just need to be cautious at moment until people know exactly what is happening

 

[rb62]

That's why there's a transition period while things like this get sorted out.

 

[gus-lopez]

My dog has a Portuguese Pet Passport (he is a rescue) so I'm hoping that will be OK.

As long as he has the titre test for entering the EU after 29th if no deal then you won' have a problem.

That's why there's a transition period while things like this get sorted out.

If there is NO deal there will be NO transition period.Everything,passports,driving licences, flights, ferries, trains & train drivers licences,travel, everything you can think of will have no arrangements whatsoever. apart from anything that has been scrambled in the last few weeks.
The transition period only comes in to play if the deal May is touting is passed by the UK parliament.

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[maison]

It appears to be a minimum of three months after the blood test.

Our dog was vaccinated and had her blood test twelve years ago and we still have the original test result certificate as well as her first and second Pet Passport. These have the record of boosters/travel etc.

We reckon she could be OK. even under the new rules but, if anyone reads things differently, I would like to know.

The suggestion that a U.K. issued Passport will not be acceptable seems strange.

If we start again we have the blood test certificate etc. So who will issue an acceptable Passport?

 

[sdc77]

We are all paid up at Omaha beach site for the d day celebrations. We would be taking the dogs with us.
We're probably going to decide just to not bother now and swallow the loss.
Haven't booked the tunnel yet and would probably have booked it this week.
The uncertainty re the dogs is something we can't be bothered dealing with. So we will probably go somewhere in the UK instead.
Once brexit is sorted I'm sure we'll be back over there.

 

[maxi77]

That's why there's a transition period while things like this get sorted out.

No deal no transition

 

[maxi77]

It appears to be a minimum of three months after the blood test.

Our dog was vaccinated and had her blood test twelve years ago and we still have the original test result certificate as well as her first and second Pet Passport. These have the record of boosters/travel etc.

We reckon she could be OK. even under the new rules but, if anyone reads things differently, I would like to know.

The suggestion that a U.K. issued Passport will not be acceptable seems strange.

If we start again we have the blood test certificate etc. So who will issue an acceptable Passport?

That's the no deal problem, all international agreement between the EU and the UK lapse and need to be renewed individually.

 

[sdc77]

That's the no deal problem, all international agreement between the EU and the UK lapse and need to be renewed individually.

No that's not completely correct is it.. as has already been said. Entry to the EU will cost €7 .. deal or no deal. For example

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[Landy Andy]

I don’t really understand all this so have a few questions.

Do other Europeans have passports for their pets? So does a German dog need a passport to enter/leave France?

It appears to me that I have a pet passport to enter the uk more than to enter France/Europe. No one checks anything on entry, only when leaving. Due to this I struggle to see why things need to change, apart from people just weaning to cause problems.

I can see many people just hiding their pet to enter leave France, which is already fairly common.

 

[Paddywack]

No that's not completely correct is it.. as has already been said. Entry to the EU will cost €7 .. deal or no deal. For example

A good example to choose. The INTERNATIONAL driving license, the UK will be treated the same as other non EU countries. And just think of those queues at passport control for non EU citizens that we will get to enjoy!

 

[Aly1]

I am planning to travel to Europe in June with my dog but I haven’t booked the tunnel yet because I’m not prepared to pay £150 for a blood test that may not be required. If we leave with no deal I will just holiday in this country.

 

[mfw]

I don’t really understand all this so have a few questions.

Do other Europeans have passports for their pets? So does a German dog need a passport to enter/leave France?

It appears to me that I have a pet passport to enter the uk more than to enter France/Europe. No one checks anything on entry, only when leaving. Due to this I struggle to see why things need to change, apart from people just weaning to cause problems.

I can see many people just hiding their pet to enter leave France, which is already fairly common.

Other countries have passports for dogs but the uk being an island are a lot more stringent on the rules

 

[glenn2926]

As far as I am aware, pets have never needed a passport to enter the EU. However, they need one to enter the U.K. As a U.K. pet, your pet will need it’s pet passport to come back to the U.K. I cannot see how leaving the EU will have any effect on this at all. Has anyone looked at your pet passport ever when leaving the U.K? I would suspect not. Pets travelling between EU countries don’t have/need passports. All this talk about post brexit is just scare mongering.

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[mfw]

As far as I am aware, pets have never needed a passport to enter the EU. However, they need one to enter the U.K. As a U.K. pet, your pet will need it’s pet passport to come back to the U.K. I cannot see how leaving the EU will have any effect on this at all. Has anyone looked at your pet passport ever when leaving the U.K? I would suspect not. Pets travelling between EU countries don’t have/need passports. All this talk about post brexit is just scare mongering.

Gets checked for microchip sometimes not always

 

[Reallyretired]

We will be going away late March and plan to be in Spain and France for about 3 months. If there is a problem with the pet passports we will just stay in the UK. We can't justify the cost of two rabies tests on the off chance that they may be needed.

 

[maxi77]

No that's not completely correct is it.. as has already been said. Entry to the EU will cost €7 .. deal or no deal. For example

Yes all agreements will lapse, the EU charge for visas is nothing to do with those agreements and if there is a deal may not be required as all aspects of people movement have not been finalised in the May deal. The EU is fast tracking some key deals to prevent a total collapse of transport between the UK and the EU but these do depend on reciprocal agreement from our bunch of numpties, don't hold your breath

 

[maxi77]

As far as I am aware, pets have never needed a passport to enter the EU. However, they need one to enter the U.K. As a U.K. pet, your pet will need it’s pet passport to come back to the U.K. I cannot see how leaving the EU will have any effect on this at all. Has anyone looked at your pet passport ever when leaving the U.K? I would suspect not. Pets travelling between EU countries don’t have/need passports. All this talk about post brexit is just scare mongering.

Pets do require passports for intra EU travel, the fact you rarely see checks does not change the law. Within a country they do not need a passport but here in Portugal they do require proof of rabies inoculation and many use the passport for this but a vets certificate will do. Pets also need to be chipped. If your pet has no rabies or chip the GNR will seize it for euthanasia

 

[busby]

As long as he has the titre test for entering the EU after 29th if no deal then you won' have a problem.


If there is NO deal there will be NO transition period.Everything,passports,driving licences, flights, ferries, trains & train drivers licences,travel, everything you can think of will have no arrangements whatsoever. apart from anything that has been scrambled in the last few weeks.
The transition period only comes in to play if the deal May is touting is passed by the UK parliament.

Well that will bugger up all the European Companies that send goods through our ferry ports everyday..What will Spain do with all that unsold fruit and veg,,,BUSBY

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[maison]

A good example to choose. The INTERNATIONAL driving license, the UK will be treated the same as other non EU countries. And just think of those queues at passport control for non EU citizens that we will get to enjoy!

Not correct for France.

The English language, French newspaper, Connexion, has carried an article saying that the French Government proposes laws which will enable U.K. drivers to drive in France on a U.K. licence, as long as a translation is carried.

As the plastic licence is largely pictorial there is very little to translate.

 

[mfw]

Well that will bugger up all the European Companies that send goods through our ferry ports everyday..What will Spain do with all that unsold fruit and veg,,,BUSBY

Same as they do now with the food waste

As for getting back to uk got a 5m humber inflatable similar to those used by others as a passenger craft to cross channel so pet will be no problem

 

[sdc77]

Yes all agreements will lapse, the EU charge for visas is nothing to do with those agreements and if there is a deal may not be required as all aspects of people movement have not been finalised in the May deal. The EU is fast tracking some key deals to prevent a total collapse of transport between the UK and the EU but these do depend on reciprocal agreement from our bunch of numpties, don't hold your breath

No... the juxtaposed border is an example of an agreement that will continue. It's a deal between the UK and France... for example.
It's obvious that the other EU connections are severed and will need to be set up again once we leave. Sorting out simple things like pets travelling should be easy and quick though, along with stacks of other little niggling issues .
At the end of the day ... the EU doesn't want to stop Brits travelling to the EU does it. We don't want to stop travel the other way so it will be sorted out very quickly and easily.

 

[sdc77]

Yes all agreements will lapse, the EU charge for visas is nothing to do with those agreements and if there is a deal may not be required as all aspects of people movement have not been finalised in the May deal. The EU is fast tracking some key deals to prevent a total collapse of transport between the UK and the EU but these do depend on reciprocal agreement from our bunch of numpties, don't hold your breath

Also... the EU and the UK are no doubt fast tracking some stuff. It's not down to the EU solely who can travel.

 

[Jaws]

We are bracing our selves for a misery trip this summer..if it all goes tits up.
I would like to say a mystery trip but as its likely we will stay UK bound ( and never ONCE had what you would call a great time in the van here ) the misery part stands !

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