Paint Finishes? I'll bet there's some experts here...

[Wissel]

Hey all, could do with some advice.

I'm about to build some van furniture that will need to be painted. This is a very high end job with real wood doors (proper joinery, I'm a trained joiner), wooden dove tailed drawer boxes and aluminium frames. I need this to be as good as it can be. Think £50k kitchen finish.

I can spray paint to a professional standard and have a suitable compressor, guns, etc. I also have a filtered booth with proper ATEX extraction, so next to no dust.

But I'm not sure about paint?

What I need is a good, likely high build, primer. Then a nice hard wearing paint that can be ordered to colour. Then a hard wearing lacquer with a silk finish. I'll also need the right thinners.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Hoping some of you can help.

 

[The Coops]

Martin Brown paints, try the website will do specials or give them a call and tell them what you want.

 

[John Barrett]

I don't understand. Why would you want to paint a top quality real wood door or dovetailed drawers? In addition, if you can spray to professional standard and have proper kit, why seek advice here?
John

 

[Wissel]

I don't understand. Why would you want to paint a top quality real wood door or dovetailed drawers? In addition, if you can spray to professional standard and have proper kit, why seek advice here?
John

I want to paint it because the customer wants it painted? (actually the drawers will just be lacquered)
Quite normal if you think of high quality kitchen doors.

Regarding the kit. I've sprayed a lot of metals and woods in the past, but not a wood that will be in a motorhome. I want it to be as resilient as it can be. If that makes sense.

Just not sure of the best type of paint to use.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Just not sure of the best type of paint to use.

You could try Dulux for technical info.

What ever paint you get I’d be surprised if it’s not water based.

Any reason you can’t use automotive paint?

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[Wissel]

You could try Dulux for technical info.

What ever paint you get I’d be surprised if it’s not water based.

Any reason you can’t use automotive paint?

I've wondered about automotive. Would certainly make life easy.

But then there's epoxy, if auto paint would 2k be better, etc, etc. Just not a subject I know enough about.

 

[John Barrett]

You could try Dulux for technical info.

What ever paint you get I’d be surprised if it’s not water based.

Any reason you can’t use automotive paint?

Agreed, I get all my paint supplies in two pack from our local automotive supplier. They colour match as well.

 

[Wissel]

Agreed, I get all my paint supplies in two pack from our local automotive supplier. They colour match as well.

As I see you are on a boat in your avatar, do you use this paint on boats?
If so, this sounds ideal.

 

[John Barrett]

As I see you are on a boat in your avatar, do you use this paint on boats?
If so, this sounds ideal.

I'm not on a boat anymore, but I have been using two pack on my models for years! y
Wonderful stuff and perfectly predictable results.

 

[TheBig1]

automotive paint is hard, and by extension brittle. You need something that will take a knock without damage

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[Wissel]

I'm not on a boat anymore, but I have been using two pack on my models for years! y
Wonderful stuff and perfectly predictable results.

Do you think it would stand up to the slight stretching/shrinking that's inevitable with solid wood, although with such a good sealant I would guess this would be minimal.

 

[Wissel]

automotive paint is hard, and by extension brittle. You need something that will take a knock without damage

Any suggestions?

 

[TheBig1]

No sorry, not in a motorhome. For specialist jobs we spoke to the decorators merchants and then if required the manufacturers technical department. That was before we worried so much about VOC's

 

[Wissel]

No sorry, not in a motorhome. For specialist jobs we spoke to the decorators merchants and then if required the manufacturers technical department. That was before we worried so much about VOC's

No worries, thanks anyway. I have a few calls planned to specialist shops tomorrow anyway (surprisingly few in the UK), was just hoping to get a bit more of an idea beforehand and it's amazing the knowledge on this forum sometimes.

 

[sonar]

Hey all, could do with some advice.

I'm about to build some van furniture that will need to be painted. This is a very high end job with real wood doors (proper joinery, I'm a trained joiner), wooden dove tailed drawer boxes and aluminium frames. I need this to be as good as it can be. Think £50k kitchen finish.

I can spray paint to a professional standard and have a suitable compressor, guns, etc. I also have a filtered booth with proper ATEX extraction, so next to no dust.

But I'm not sure about paint?

What I need is a good, likely high build, primer. Then a nice hard wearing paint that can be ordered to colour. Then a hard wearing lacquer with a silk finish. I'll also need the right thinners.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Hoping some of you can help.

2k paints good enough for cars lorries boats and industrial use.
and prior to any application a good stopper putty.

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[dazandandrea]

I painted a wooden kitchen a few years ago. Im sure it was a Johnson product specifically for wood.
Hand painted , rolled then layed off with a brush , primer/undercoat then top.
Got a great finish, i presume if it had been sprayed would have been even better.
You should be able to get some good info from manufacturers.

 

[Pugsy]

For my van I used Johnson acrylic primer and base coat then Farrow and ball furniture paint. It came up good and after 4 years use(2.5 years fulltime) it is still good. Don't know if the pic will do it justice or not but this is the area that takes all the knocks getting in and out the van.