Observations after six weeks in France

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Having just returned from an excellent six weeks trip touring around France I thought it may be helpful to anyone thinking of braving a trip. The paperwork and testing is changing all the time so check the latest regulations before to commit.

At Eurotunnel the paperwork required for entering France was non-existent. This is surprising given the huge differences in infection rates between the two countries.

Paperwork on UK side was confusing and changeable as mentioned above this seems odd.

It became obvious that booking with the Caravan Club was a mistake as Eurotunnel doesn’t recognise any CC bookings so you cannot enter all your details on the Eurotunnel website that allows you to speed up the arrival process. This not only caused a 20 minute delay at either end but resulted in missing our train and having to wait another hour for the next one. Ferry crossings are Caravan Club freindly.

We thought the French may have been a little “hostile” following BREXIT but we found no sign of it. The French were very friendly and charming without exception.

It would be difficult to get around and enjoy France without the French “Pass Sanitaire” their equivalent to our NHS Covid Passport. This is needed if you want to go into any restaurant, bar or venue. Everyone used them on their phones or if no phone then a paper certificate. There were no exceptions and everyone we saw/met complied. The French recognise the NHS Covid certificate and the barcode used by the NHS can be used to create the Pass Sanitaire. We used this all the time. The passport was updated every day with covid numbers and highlighted areas of higher infection rates – something our lot should be looking at.

It is against the law to enter any shop without a face mask (fines of €137) there appeared to be no exceptions and again everyone complied. This made us feel more safer than when in the UK.

Understandably with all the covid restrictions etc. the Vicarious Books publication “All the Aires” was way out of date regarding prices and to a lesser extent facilities. Unsurprisingly Aires, particularly near tourist areas had increased in price whereas campsites had only increased marginally. The publication is in urgent need of updating as there are many new Aires and others have “disappeared”

It had been 5 years since we last took a camper van to France and in that time there has been significant changes. It seems that many local authorities have handed over the running of Aires to Commercial companies. These “commercially operated Aires” that used to be either free or have limited services are now charging between 10 and 18 Euros. That said most of these “commercial Aires” seem to have EHU included in the price. They are barrier operated with fences or hedges with many including the price of the services. (but not all)

There appeared to be fewer “wild camping spots” than we remember and even more surprising the French Camping car owners didn’t seem to mind especially as the Aires now included EHU.

During our 6 weeks in France we only once did we see more than one other Brit on any site. Certainly the Brits are keeping away. Oddly enough we rarely saw any caravans of any nationality and certainly didn’t pass any Brits on the road.

It was true to say that since our last visit in 2019 food prices have risen but not significantly, so with fuel a new pence per litre cheaper than UK.

We don’t have a pet so cannot comment on how easy or difficult it is to take pets into the EU and as there were so few Brits we had nothing to compare with.
 
Having also returned from France after a month away a couple of weeks ago, I concur with all the above information. I also will not be booking a Eurotunnel crossing with the Caravan and motorhome club again , even if it is cheaper, for the same reasons as mentioned. Although we did not miss our train back form France, owing to the fact it was early morning, and nobody queuing to show documents to obtain a boarding pass. I have now created an account with Eurotunnel and will do all my future bookings with them direct.
James (marpool)
 
How did you find customs on the way out. Ours was a bit stroppy.

We drove up to the window, via the empty lane, where he then ignored us for at least 5mins plus, just looking at his phone. Then shoved his hand out, nothing spoken, snatched passports, then sat there far at least another 5mins with them in his hand whilst chatting to another chap, then poked them back at us.

Very odd, but no problem to us.
 
I would agree with all of the above observations. We have been in France for nearly three weeks. Had exactly the same issues with C&MC booking. Fortunately only booked one way so will book through my Eurotunnel account for the return. Brexit is a non-issue in Europe. Nobody cares. It was a purely UK psychodrama that induced borderline paranoia in a lot of UK residents. Recent fuel and food shortages have created some wry amusement.
We have had a fantastic time. After a couple of UK holidays it was so good to be back.
 
Our experiences were very similar (got back a fortnight ago after 5 weeks.)

France felt vastly safer than England (can’t comment currently on other parts of the UK.). Not only did everyone wear masks indoors (& most did too in markets) but they didn’t even tear them off ostentatiously as soon as they got outside. We had a bit of a hiccup the first time we used the pass sanitaire, but after that it worked perfectly. (If you have an Apple Watch, worth downloading the TousAntiCovid app, it is easy to show the pass on your watch!)

Aires and sites did seem significantly busier than we would have expected for September, an enormous number of motorhomes on the road, although this seemed particularly so on the Atlantic coast. Inland seemed generally quieter. Predominantly French vans though - I guess lots of people had deferred trips from earlier in the year when France was under lockdown?

We had no problems with outbound customs. On return journey no problems, but 3 observations:
1. We arrived early, having got a much earlier train on outbound journey - no chance of getting early crossing, they had merged all crossings into 1 per hour. And all cars were on the double height carriages with MHs etc - I’ve never seen that before.
2. French border police were doing the usual swabbing of steer wheel, but it seemed more sophisticated than before, in that we had to wait in batches until results were confirmed, instead of the usual cursory check then waved on.
3. Having dutifully kept to our allowances for drink, 😤 it was surprising to see no sign of green and red channels, nor were we asked what we were bringing back.

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How did you find customs on the way out. Ours was a bit stroppy.

We drove up to the window, via the empty lane, where he then ignored us for at least 5mins plus, just looking at his phone. Then shoved his hand out, nothing spoken, snatched passports, then sat there far at least another 5mins with them in his hand whilst chatting to another chap, then poked them back at us.

Very odd, but no problem to us.
I have to say we found the customs on the UK side pretty much the same as your experience. The UK customs were very laid back and we appeared to be an incovenience to them as we were disturbing their leisure time. What with that and the CC fiasco it all contributed to missing our train. We were worried about taking meat and dairy products so didn't take our usual fride/freezer full. Wish we had filled up as nobody was bothered to check or even ask.
 
Just heading back after a fortnight and echo everything you say. Food is more expensive but also seems to have greater variety and more focus on quality locally sourced items.
Customs on way out was a lovely young girl who was so impressed that we could show our vaccine status on thé TousAntiCovid App.
Only British vans we saw in 2 weeks were in first night (la Mailleraye) and last night (Montreuil).
We had one conversation with a French cyclist who asked wryly what we thought of Brexit (let’s just say I don’t fit with the most common MHF profile 😉) … overwhelmingly people, whether French or German, were friendly and glad to see visitors.
 
I was at Montreul last night as well.
I was backed up against the wall by the service point 😃
My Fun sticker fitted and everything :oops:

We've only paid for two overnight stopovers in the five weeks we've been here, there are still hundreds of free Aires and we never once had to pay for any services or water.
Everything does now seem to be more expensive than the UK but not massively.
The French seem to be behaving better than us Brits regarding face masks.

The major problem is the return journey. Buying the Day Two tests at a reasonable price and filling out the online location form is even more of a task.
It's just taken over an hour to do two of them.

All in all it was a good trip and weather has been brill for the time of year.
We've visited some awesome sites, the submarine pens a St Nazaire was special.
Of course we will be back next April :drinks:
 
Just heading back after a fortnight and echo everything you say. Food is more expensive but also seems to have greater variety and more focus on quality locally sourced items.
Customs on way out was a lovely young girl who was so impressed that we could show our vaccine status on thé TousAntiCovid App.
Only British vans we saw in 2 weeks were in first night (la Mailleraye) and last night (Montreuil).
We had one conversation with a French cyclist who asked wryly what we thought of Brexit (let’s just say I don’t fit with the most common MHF profile 😉) … overwhelmingly people, whether French or German, were friendly and glad to see visitors.
What is the most common MHF profile?
 
What is the most common MHF profile?
Politically? I think it’s Conservative voting, pro-Brexit. Do you think I’m correct?
Age-wise, probably a bit older than we are, mainly retired.
Culturally, we all enjoy travelling and discovering new places. I think even Chris loves France secretly but would never admit it. I think a fair few of us are foodies too 😂.

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S
I was at Montreul last night as well.
I was backed up against the wall by the service point 😃
My Fun sticker fitted and everything :oops:

We've only paid for two overnight stopovers in the five weeks we've been here, there are still hundreds of free Aires and we never once had to pay for any services or water.
Everything does now seem to be more expensive than the UK but not massively.
The French seem to be behaving better than us Brits regarding face masks.

The major problem is the return journey. Buying the Day Two tests at a reasonable price and filling out the online location form is even more of a task.
It's just taken over an hour to do two of them.

All in all it was a good trip and weather has been brill for the time of year.
We've visited some awesome sites, the submarine pens a St Nazaire was special.
Of course we will be back next April :drinks:
Ah I think you were at Montreuil night before us … I meant ‘our last night’ ie Friday night.
 
I guess you guys use the D1001 & the D901 routes to save toll costs on the A16?
I am confused as to how far you can travel from Calais on The A16 before tolls kick in, am I correct in thinking its Abbeville before tolls are incurred.?
Thanks for our feedback on France, we still cant understand why stricter mask rules have not been reimplemented here in The UK as we see Covid spread out of control again, especially as they have forecasted a 100.000 a day rate by the end of the year.
What are they scared of?, they are walking straight into being accused of too little, too late again.
LES
 
Our experience in France was just the same with the exception of any problems checking in as we share a frequent traveler wallet so no problems. I think they are way ahead of us on reducing the risk of spread without any drastic inconvenience or apparent economic loss and it all seems to work without as far as we saw any real objectors but I'm sure there will be some!. The thing I never saw in any shops was anyone who was excempt from masks it seems to be a very straightforward no mask no entry.
 
I returned from France 2 weeks ago. Travelled on the Eurotunnel quick and easy, no real checks except for gas. My only problem was my worry over whether the dogs AHC was filled in correctly but again that was fine.
Everyone was really welcoming and I felt much safer there than the UK as face masks were worn in shops and my covid pass was checked in restaurant.
We saw quite a few British vans on our travels.
All the paperwork to fill in was easy, no hassle at all.
 
Our experience in France was just the same with the exception of any problems checking in as we share a frequent traveler wallet so no problems. I think they are way ahead of us on reducing the risk of spread without any drastic inconvenience or apparent economic loss and it all seems to work without as far as we saw any real objectors but I'm sure there will be some!. The thing I never saw in any shops was anyone who was excempt from masks it seems to be a very straightforward no mask no entry.
There should be no exemption from mask wearing . Its just another work around for some folk unfortunately....get loads of people coming in and out the takeaway with no face coverings ...they can't all be excempt but if you ask them thats what they claim.

Then you have the other side that wrar them outside and in their own cars with no one around .

Nowt queer as folk



I was on a train last month from Scotland to halifax and i couldn't believe the amount of folk who immediately removed the face masks when we crossed over the border .... Even the train announcement said whilst not legally required in england they advised folk to continue wearing them ...but id say maybe 40% did
 
Politically? I think it’s Conservative voting, pro-Brexit. Do you think I’m correct?
Age-wise, probably a bit older than we are, mainly retired.
Culturally, we all enjoy travelling and discovering new places. I think even Chris loves France secretly but would never admit it. I think a fair few of us are foodies too 😂.
I do like France or rather certain parts of France.

Its just the French I am not so keen on yodeli excepted.
 
S

Ah I think you were at Montreuil night before us … I meant ‘our last night’ ie Friday night.
We were there Thursday night but moved a bit closer to Calais last night.
We are on the 09.30 train Sunday.
Did you get sorted with the Day two LFT?
Have filled out the ONLINE LOCATION FORM?

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Having just returned from an excellent six weeks trip touring around France I thought it may be helpful to anyone thinking of braving a trip. The paperwork and testing is changing all the time so check the latest regulations before to commit.

At Eurotunnel the paperwork required for entering France was non-existent. This is surprising given the huge differences in infection rates between the two countries.

Paperwork on UK side was confusing and changeable as mentioned above this seems odd.

It became obvious that booking with the Caravan Club was a mistake as Eurotunnel doesn’t recognise any CC bookings so you cannot enter all your details on the Eurotunnel website that allows you to speed up the arrival process. This not only caused a 20 minute delay at either end but resulted in missing our train and having to wait another hour for the next one. Ferry crossings are Caravan Club freindly.

We thought the French may have been a little “hostile” following BREXIT but we found no sign of it. The French were very friendly and charming without exception.

It would be difficult to get around and enjoy France without the French “Pass Sanitaire” their equivalent to our NHS Covid Passport. This is needed if you want to go into any restaurant, bar or venue. Everyone used them on their phones or if no phone then a paper certificate. There were no exceptions and everyone we saw/met complied. The French recognise the NHS Covid certificate and the barcode used by the NHS can be used to create the Pass Sanitaire. We used this all the time. The passport was updated every day with covid numbers and highlighted areas of higher infection rates – something our lot should be looking at.

It is against the law to enter any shop without a face mask (fines of €137) there appeared to be no exceptions and again everyone complied. This made us feel more safer than when in the UK.

Understandably with all the covid restrictions etc. the Vicarious Books publication “All the Aires” was way out of date regarding prices and to a lesser extent facilities. Unsurprisingly Aires, particularly near tourist areas had increased in price whereas campsites had only increased marginally. The publication is in urgent need of updating as there are many new Aires and others have “disappeared”

It had been 5 years since we last took a camper van to France and in that time there has been significant changes. It seems that many local authorities have handed over the running of Aires to Commercial companies. These “commercially operated Aires” that used to be either free or have limited services are now charging between 10 and 18 Euros. That said most of these “commercial Aires” seem to have EHU included in the price. They are barrier operated with fences or hedges with many including the price of the services. (but not all)

There appeared to be fewer “wild camping spots” than we remember and even more surprising the French Camping car owners didn’t seem to mind especially as the Aires now included EHU.

During our 6 weeks in France we only once did we see more than one other Brit on any site. Certainly the Brits are keeping away. Oddly enough we rarely saw any caravans of any nationality and certainly didn’t pass any Brits on the road.

It was true to say that since our last visit in 2019 food prices have risen but not significantly, so with fuel a new pence per litre cheaper than UK.

We don’t have a pet so cannot comment on how easy or difficult it is to take pets into the EU and as there were so few Brits we had nothing to compare with.

From the above,
"The French recognise the NHS Covid certificate and the barcode used by the NHS can be used to create the Pass Sanitaire. We used this all the time. "

Sorry for being thick. Does this mean that you had the NHS Covid Pass on your phones (and/or a paper equivalent) and that was accepted.
Or, did you have to convert your NHS Pass into the Pass Sanitaire and, if so, how was that achieved,

Thank you in advance.
 
From the above,
"The French recognise the NHS Covid certificate and the barcode used by the NHS can be used to create the Pass Sanitaire. We used this all the time. "

Sorry for being thick. Does this mean that you had the NHS Covid Pass on your phones (and/or a paper equivalent) and that was accepted.
Or, did you have to convert your NHS Pass into the Pass Sanitaire and, if so, how was that achieved,

Thank you in advance.
We had both the paper NHS Covid pass AND the NHS app on our phones (Belt and braces idea) We downloaded the French Covid Pass Sanitaire App and used this to scan in the barcode on our paper NHS certificate. Very easy and worked a treat. We understand that the NHS covid app is acceptable but didn't want to take any chances. Hope that helps
 
We had both the paper NHS Covid pass AND the NHS app on our phones (Belt and braces idea) We downloaded the French Covid Pass Sanitaire App and used this to scan in the barcode on our paper NHS certificate. Very easy and worked a treat. We understand that the NHS covid app is acceptable but didn't want to take any chances. Hope that helps
That is EXACTLY the help I wanted.
Thank you.
 
From the above,
"The French recognise the NHS Covid certificate and the barcode used by the NHS can be used to create the Pass Sanitaire. We used this all the time. "

Sorry for being thick. Does this mean that you had the NHS Covid Pass on your phones (and/or a paper equivalent) and that was accepted.
Or, did you have to convert your NHS Pass into the Pass Sanitaire and, if so, how was that achieved,

Thank you in advance.
Just to add a bit ... look for the French App 'TousAntiCovid' in your App store / Google Play and download it. It will come up in English. Go to Health Pass / Open my Wallet and add yor NHS certificate there by scanning the QR code on a paper copy. (It may work off a screen copy but I haven't tried it.)
You can then open up your certificate QR code in the app and typically the business will have a scanner that reads it.
We also kept a paper copy too just in case the phone batteries went flat.
 
W
Just to add a bit ... look for the French App 'TousAntiCovid' in your App store / Google Play and download it. It will come up in English. Go to Health Pass / Open my Wallet and add yor NHS certificate there by scanning the QR code on a paper copy. (It may work off a screen copy but I haven't tried it.)
You can then open up your certificate QR code in the app and typically the business will have a scanner that reads it.
We also kept a paper copy too just in case the phone batteries went flat.
e did the same and put them on a shared Google drive file belt braces and a spare set of braces!

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(It may work off a screen copy but I haven't tried it.)
Yes, it does work off a screen copy. We scanned a copy on our iPads using iphones.

It's also worth remembering that technically the code on the NHS app is only valid for 28 days after production - but I've no idea whether the TousAntiCovid app has any way of recognising an expiry date on it?

But as we were in France 5 weeks, half way through our time in France we reimported a new code from the NHS app into TousAntiCovid, just to be sure.
 
We were there Thursday night but moved a bit closer to Calais last night.
We are on the 09.30 train Sunday.
Did you get sorted with the Day two LFT?
Have filled out the ONLINE LOCATION FORM?
Hi, that’s is just our in Folkestone. We filled in passenger locator forms using my phone. Sadly as travelling today had to pay for PCRs not LFTs. They should be waiting at home. Uploading the vaccine QR code was a faff - it wouldn’t scan from paper certificate - eventually managed it by scanning from the QR code in the TousAntiCovid app on hubby’s phone. I would not have managed to upload the PLF to Eurotunnel via my phone, I clicked to have an email sent with pdf. I then used my phone as a hotspot for my iMac and downloaded the pdfs onto m hard drove and uploaded them o to Eurotunnel from there.
Thank goodness as there was a major problem with a train stuck in the tunnel today. We arrived 3 hours before departure time and managed to get straight through with no requests for any documents other than passports.
We got to Folkestone 90 minutes earlier than we were originally scheduled to.
There are miles of queues on M20 waiting to go over.
Hopefully all sorted for you tomorrow.
 
That is EXACTLY the help I wanted.
Thank you.
We are in Spain at the moment but, spent 5 weeks in France. We don’t normally carry our phones around with us so just used our NHS passes which we had printed out. Got asked for it at every bar/cafe we went into, no problems it was accepted everywhere. Not been asked for it once in Spain.
 
Having just returned from an excellent six weeks trip touring around France I thought it may be helpful to anyone thinking of braving a trip. The paperwork and testing is changing all the time so check the latest regulations before to commit.

At Eurotunnel the paperwork required for entering France was non-existent. This is surprising given the huge differences in infection rates between the two countries.

Paperwork on UK side was confusing and changeable as mentioned above this seems odd.

It became obvious that booking with the Caravan Club was a mistake as Eurotunnel doesn’t recognise any CC bookings so you cannot enter all your details on the Eurotunnel website that allows you to speed up the arrival process. This not only caused a 20 minute delay at either end but resulted in missing our train and having to wait another hour for the next one. Ferry crossings are Caravan Club freindly.

We thought the French may have been a little “hostile” following BREXIT but we found no sign of it. The French were very friendly and charming without exception.

It would be difficult to get around and enjoy France without the French “Pass Sanitaire” their equivalent to our NHS Covid Passport. This is needed if you want to go into any restaurant, bar or venue. Everyone used them on their phones or if no phone then a paper certificate. There were no exceptions and everyone we saw/met complied. The French recognise the NHS Covid certificate and the barcode used by the NHS can be used to create the Pass Sanitaire. We used this all the time. The passport was updated every day with covid numbers and highlighted areas of higher infection rates – something our lot should be looking at.

It is against the law to enter any shop without a face mask (fines of €137) there appeared to be no exceptions and again everyone complied. This made us feel more safer than when in the UK.

Understandably with all the covid restrictions etc. the Vicarious Books publication “All the Aires” was way out of date regarding prices and to a lesser extent facilities. Unsurprisingly Aires, particularly near tourist areas had increased in price whereas campsites had only increased marginally. The publication is in urgent need of updating as there are many new Aires and others have “disappeared”

It had been 5 years since we last took a camper van to France and in that time there has been significant changes. It seems that many local authorities have handed over the running of Aires to Commercial companies. These “commercially operated Aires” that used to be either free or have limited services are now charging between 10 and 18 Euros. That said most of these “commercial Aires” seem to have EHU included in the price. They are barrier operated with fences or hedges with many including the price of the services. (but not all)

There appeared to be fewer “wild camping spots” than we remember and even more surprising the French Camping car owners didn’t seem to mind especially as the Aires now included EHU.

During our 6 weeks in France we only once did we see more than one other Brit on any site. Certainly the Brits are keeping away. Oddly enough we rarely saw any caravans of any nationality and certainly didn’t pass any Brits on the road.

It was true to say that since our last visit in 2019 food prices have risen but not significantly, so with fuel a new pence per litre cheaper than UK.

We don’t have a pet so cannot comment on how easy or difficult it is to take pets into the EU and as there were so few Brits we had nothing to compare with.
As with others on this post the French experience for us over the past 6+ weeks has been excellent.
When we journeyed across via the tunnel we were a little anxious about the potential search for fresh meats etc that is no longer permitted in Europe from the UK but that wasn't a problem as we passed through customs.
The use of face masks and passes was 100% wherever we went, bars, shops, stores etc no problem whatsoever. The difference in covid levels between the UK and France goes a long long way to prove the argument that use of face masks is the first and main step towards beating back covid. When l look at the news from 'plague island' with infections nearly 50,000 a day l wish l could remain here, certainly feel so much safer!
As for fresh food - markets, superstores etc are awash with gorgeous fresh food with no evidence whatsoever of food shortages.
Fuel is plentiful with no evidence of queues.
We're still trying to find ways of getting a pet passport for the dog , possibly in Belgium is the latest suggestion.
 
For anyone having issues scanning paper copies of the NHS QR code for any reason, make sure they are in date, they are only valid for one month from initial creation, every time you log in to the NHS app and view your QR code it generates a new expiry date so if your printed copy is older then one month you need to print a new one.

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