New ferry proposal Rosyth to Zeebrugge seen Facebook

[corconx]

Rosyth : Ferry from Rosyth to Zeebrugge. Story via Fife Council (Pamela Stevenson)

Ferry Route from Rosyth to Zeebrugge

Ptarmigan Shipping have signed an agreement with DFDS Seaways to look at refreshing the Rosyth to Zeebrugge ferry route for both passengers and freight.

A business model has been completed using one RoPax vessel doing 3 voyages in each direction per week with a crossing time of 20 hours. The vessel can carry driver accompanied and unaccompanied trailers plus containers and new cars. The intention is to pilot during 2023 and, subject to market demand, adding a second vessel as soon as possible, increasing the frequency to 6 voyages per week in each direction.

Ptarmigan Shipping are moving forward with asking potential customers if this route is of interest and an indication of volume. They are very keen to hear from businesses who may wish to transport consignments and goods via sea !

It is intended that the route will be competitive on price, and in most cases, faster to delivery point and will offer the transport companies effective utilisation of their equipment. It will help reduce the issue regarding the shortage of drivers and reduce the carbon footprint, by less road miles on congested roads and time spent in the English Ports.

If the route is of interest, please do not hesitate to contact Derek SLoan - dgs@ptarmiganshipping.com - project manager for the development of a replacement ferry route from Rosyth.

For your information Ptarmigan Shipping was a new company set up to act for the stakeholders and to market the product.

 

[Jim]

Wasn't the old ferry about a 17 hour crossing? How long to drive to from Rosyth to Calais? about 12 hours?

 

[Orion]

Presumably the intention is to have a limited number of driver cabins available - the DFDS Gothenburg to Immingham RoPax has 12 - that might be bookable for private truck/van/MoHo owners?

We’ve done the Gothenburg route on two occasions and it’s a relaxing way to travel compared to the passenger ferries, but difficult to arrange.

 

[gpat]

It's seems strange that Hull to Zeebrugge couldn't be run without loosing money but Edinburgh to Zeebrugge could. I'm not buying it.

 

[InvictaMoto]

Presumably the intention is to have a limited number of driver cabins available - the DFDS Gothenburg to Immingham RoPax has 12 - that might be bookable for private truck/van/MoHo owners?

We’ve done the Gothenburg route on two occasions and it’s a relaxing way to travel compared to the passenger ferries, but difficult to arrange.

In the past when going to Sweden did the Harwich to Gothenburg route and then they cut it. Have tried the Immingham route but DFDS said they didn't know availability until shortly before departure date. Once gave me less than 24 hours. That was for a motorcycle. How do you book?

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[Orion]

It's seems strange that Hull to Zeebrugge couldn't be run without loosing money but Edinburgh to Zeebrugge could. I'm not buying it.

Bit like DFDS dropping Harwich to Esbjerg (great route and a seafood buffet to die for!) which IIRC was always busy. Regular posts on the web about X or Y company due to revive it imminently, but they come to naught.

 

[Bailey58]

Rosyth : Ferry from Rosyth to Zeebrugge. Story via Fife Council (Pamela Stevenson)

Ferry Route from Rosyth to Zeebrugge

Ptarmigan Shipping have signed an agreement with DFDS Seaways to look at refreshing the Rosyth to Zeebrugge ferry route for both passengers and freight.

A business model has been completed using one RoPax vessel doing 3 voyages in each direction per week with a crossing time of 20 hours. The vessel can carry driver accompanied and unaccompanied trailers plus containers and new cars. The intention is to pilot during 2023 and, subject to market demand, adding a second vessel as soon as possible, increasing the frequency to 6 voyages per week in each direction.

Ptarmigan Shipping are moving forward with asking potential customers if this route is of interest and an indication of volume. They are very keen to hear from businesses who may wish to transport consignments and goods via sea !

It is intended that the route will be competitive on price, and in most cases, faster to delivery point and will offer the transport companies effective utilisation of their equipment. It will help reduce the issue regarding the shortage of drivers and reduce the carbon footprint, by less road miles on congested roads and time spent in the English Ports.

If the route is of interest, please do not hesitate to contact Derek SLoan - dgs@ptarmiganshipping.com - project manager for the development of a replacement ferry route from Rosyth.

For your information Ptarmigan Shipping was a new company set up to act for the stakeholders and to market the product.

Have you a link to the particula post on Facebook?

 

[Bailey58]

Bit like DFDS dropping Harwich to Esbjerg (great route and a seafood buffet to die for!) which IIRC was always busy. Regular posts on the web about X or Y company due to revive it imminently, but they come to naught.

We did have someone offering to buy a ship for us a year or so back, sadly there were not enough takers to fund the £20m start up needed.

 

[Orion]

In the past when going to Sweden did the Harwich to Gothenburg route and then they cut it. Have tried the Immingham route but DFDS said they didn't know availability until shortly before departure date. Once gave me less than 24 hours. That was for a motorcycle. How do you book?

Through Direct Ferries - it was a bit of a faff getting it sorted, although to be fair the route is almost exclusively unaccompanied freight so the odd non-commercial vehicle/passengers are going to be a hassle for them. We were in our VW Amarok ‘adventure camper’ pickup and coming back from Sweden both times.

 

[WillH]

When this ferry last ran it was eye-wateringly expensive. It originally carried passengers but in latter years it only carried freight as the numbers weren't there to make it economic. Faster, and much cheaper to drive to the channel.

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[Van Aert]

Bit like DFDS dropping Harwich to Esbjerg (great route and a seafood buffet to die for!) which IIRC was always busy. Regular posts on the web about X or Y company due to revive it imminently, but they come to naught.

I wholeheartedly agree, we have done that route and the old Harwich-Hamburg crossing many times and miss them a lot.

 

[Sapper520]

Back in the early 90’s I was able to book direct with a freight company, Harwich to Hoek, for our car, caravan and four of us.

There were few facilities, but we were able to buy good food onboard, and they were great ships to travel on.

Most I ever paid was £99 return.

 

[Gellyneck]

Having been significantly involved in the original Superfast offering the key issue they will have is the economics.

The costs involved in driver accompanied, and to a lesser extent unaccompanied, trailer service (including maffied containers) is considerably greater than the existing lolo and rail container services.

 

[irnbru]

Have you a link to the particula post on Facebook?

Not FB but see here from June. https://www.scotsman.com/news/trans...th-zeebrugge-ferry-by-early-next-year-3736520

 

[irnbru]

Wasn't the old ferry about a 17 hour crossing? How long to drive to from Rosyth to Calais? about 12 hours?

Yes it was 17 hrs. I looked it booking it once upon a time but was far too expensive for just an aeroplane type seat let alone a cabin. Probably about a 11 hr drive if good run.

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[corconx]

Have you a link to the particula post on Facebook?

Can’t now find it! Just why I hate Facebook

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But links galore there

Carol

 

[Bailey58]

Can’t now find it! Just why I hate Facebook

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But links galore there

Carol

Thanks for that, yep FB posts disappear while you're looking at them. We'd discussed that restored route in our group which was my particular interest.