Mysterious issue with control box

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I’m sharing this issue in the hope that somebody may have an insight. I think that there are too many unknowns and imponderables for some considered advice, but I am hopeful that somebody might say “I had the same problem…”

My vehicle is an Adria Coral, and the electrics are managed by a Nordelettronica NE237 and associated control panel NE166, from 2015. I recently replaced the lead/acid battery with a LiFePo4 one, and had the Nordelettronica NE237 Control box modified by the excellent Apuljack Engineering company so that the battery received the voltage it wanted; similarly I flipped a switch on the Solar control to the Lithium setting.

Driving along, the NE166 display sounded its alarm, and when I was able to stop, I could see that the charge warning light was on and the ammeter was showing a charge of 15A. On another occasion (same alarms) the ammeter was showing only 0.1 amp, but it was oscillating between charge and discharge. Once the system had gone so far as to shut itself down.

I shut everything down, and on reawakening it all was well.

In order to establish whether the alternator was at fault I bought a simple device that showed what was going on. It showed a normal output from the alternator.

I disconnected the solar charger.

There is no discernible evidential cause, the fault seems to occur randomly, different battery states, different time on the road. The battery is healthy.

It doesn’t happen when connected to 240v.

Since it was last all working happily, two things have changed - the new battery and the modifications to the NE237. The problem seems focussed on the charging side of things.

I did the obvious thing and took the MoHo to Apuljack, and they have been unable to replicate the fault, so cannot fix it.

I think my only course of action is to live with it, and meanwhile try to gather evidence. I hope there may be some sort of data-logger that I can easily insert into the system. Anybody know of one?

Naturally I am concerned that whatever is malfunctioning could be causing damage.

Given all that, does anybody recognise the issue, or have an inkling where the fault might lie?

It would be nice to think there might be a solution, somewhere.

Thanks for at least reading this!!
 
You say the charge warning light was on, do you mean the one that's red and looks like a set of headphones? That's normal to be on when the engine is running and shows both batteries being charged by the alternator. Why it's red I don't know.
 
Yes, that's the one. I hadn't realised that red was its normal state. I don't know how normal 15amps is, though, but something must have prompted it to chirp at me. Can't remember if anything was flashing at the time - something to note when it happens again.

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It would be worth fitting a proper battery monitor then you would be able to check what's happening. A Victon Smart Shunt or BMV712.
 
Thanks for that thought. Some kind of Data Logger has been mentioned. New territory for me, but I am sure Mr Google will inform.

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Yes, that's the one. I hadn't realised that red was its normal state. I don't know how normal 15amps is, though, but something must have prompted it to chirp at me. Can't remember if anything was flashing at the time - something to note when it happens again.

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15 amps going in sounds fine. Presumably when you were seeing 0.1 amps and it was fluctuating your engine wasn't running?. The audible alarm could be one of your water tank levels alarming . either waste full or fresh empty? Maybe because you were driving the levels could be altering as they slosh around.
 
I bought a cheap Chinese battery voltage meter that does log the voltages etc including starting and charging. Accessed by an app on the phone linked via bluetooth. About £20 and pretty good value compared to other choices
 
Thanks, TheBig1, and IRHP.

re 15 amps - that is a relief, I thought is was massive!! And yes the +/- fluctuation was while the engine was running. I don't think it was either of the tanks, but worth pursuing, I agree. However, lurking in the background is the issue of the system shutting down.

You don't remember the description, or brand of your meter, do you, TheBig1?
 
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I didn't buy from this seller, but the same data logger
 

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