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I have only just joined the motorhome community after retiring in June havining devoured every posting on weights I was concerned about my new motorhome.
It’s a 2016 Bessacarr 424 plated originally at 3500kg the van is 5.99 m long.
Axle limits are 2000kg rear and 1850kg front.
Since manufacture it gained a 150 watt solar panel and an extra leisure battery.
I have added a Fiamma bike rack for 2 bikes and 2 x E bikes, also a drive away awning with associated extras pegs,carpet etc, just fitted a 2 x 6kg Gasit system with external fill point. Also included 100 litre fresh water and full tank of fuel.
The weighbridge is a commercial one at my local council refuse site, the results were total weight 3200kg
Front axle 1640kg
Rear axle 1540kg
A discrepancy of 20kg which is acceptable bearing in mind it’s a single weighing mechanism I had to position the front and rear separately.
The only thing missing was the wife, 2 dogs, food, clothing, bedding and a full camping Gaz 907 for the bbq.
I will probably check it again fully loaded when we set off to Spain in February.
Any thoughts on the results and have I missed anything lol.
 
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Our base payload is over 300kg i.e everything we don’t take home with us. Last week we weighed everything we took with us for a short four day trip. Food, clothes, coats, shoes, perishable food, computers and most importantly wife, it added another 150kg to the payload.
 

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You can only bring back 300 litres of wine. You may need to uprate.:wine:


300kgs left after that lot looks ok. Ebikes clothing and food will eat it into it but frugal packing will see you ok
 
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How long will both the diesel tank and the fresh water tank, fridge and freezer, fresh veg etc actually be full to the top at the same time?

It's always struck me that it only happens on our drive because as soon as we pull out onto the road, it starts getting lighter - or obviously on the garage forecourt if we fill up after setting off from home for wherever.
 
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How long will both the diesel tank and the fresh water tank, fridge and freezer, fresh veg etc actually be full to the top at the same time?

It's always struck me that it only happens on our drive because as soon as we pull out onto the road, it starts getting lighter - or obviously on the garage forecourt if we fill up after setting off from home for wherever.
I don’t anticipate travelling with a full fresh water tank but added it for the weighbridge so I could get an idea thanks, I agree that weight will drop as we travel. Likewise this included the E bikes on the bridge. I’m stil not buying chocolates for the wife though.
I have got the weight upgraded to 3850kg so I know we will be fine when my wife starts her packing, and we add all the extras.
 

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I don’t anticipate travelling with a full fresh water tank but added it for the weighbridge so I could get an idea thanks, I agree that weight will drop as we travel. Likewise this included the E bikes on the bridge. I’m stil not buying chocolates for the wife though.
I have got the weight upgraded to 3850kg so I know we will be fine when my wife starts her packing, and we add all the extras.
If you've got the weight uprated to 3850kg you should definitely be OK.

We travel close to our 3,500kg limit, but only have the fresh water half full, always empty the grey water and don't usually fill right up with diesel - most comfortable with between a quarter and three-quarters of a tank of fuel.

I was a bit surprised when first weighed the pvc with not a lot on board to find it was around 3,300kg (inc driver and passenger). Which was about 350kg heavier than our previous coachbuilt Chausson similarly loaded. But on reflection, I guess it's not that surprising, as this one is all steel and we have a spare wheel, which we didn't previously.

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I think some of the readings are down to the fact that we don’t have a large overhang at the rear so room whilst limited space involves careful use of the under seat storage areas it wasn’t expensive for the uprating and adding the extra 350kg payload was as much for peace of mind, as long as I keep the individual axles within limit we will be fine, although I expected the rear to be heavier than the front on the first weigh in.
Thanks for the replies.
 

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Would of thought a plug in bbq point would of been better than carrying additional 907 cylinder only got to worry about filling the refillables then but everyone to their own choices
 
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I have a bbq point fitted myself I have the portable bottle for ease of use when away from the van,
why do I have to worry about refilling the gas bottles ? Do you anticipate a problem from your experience abroad.
 
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You can only bring back 300 litres of wine. You may need to uprate.:wine:


300kgs left after that lot looks ok. Ebikes clothing and food will eat it into it but frugal packing will see you ok
Only if you bring it back in plastic containers my research indicates just over a kilo for a 75cl bottle maybe only 250 to 300 bottles so your wife definately needs the choccies
 

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I have a bbq point fitted myself I have the portable bottle for ease of use when away from the van,
why do I have to worry about refilling the gas bottles ? Do you anticipate a problem from your experience abroad.
No sorry i meant if by van it is easier to use refillables than carrying additional bottle - and there is no problem filling refillables abroad as long as you have the fill adaptors

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No sorry i meant if by van it is easier to use refillables than carrying additional bottle - and there is no problem filling refillables abroad as long as you have the fill adaptors
Thanks MF as I’m so new to this I thought I might have messed up lol appreciate all the advice I can get which is why I joined.
 
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Not tight although I am a Yorkshireman we have been married 32 years and how many of those as she spent on a diet, answer below please.
 
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Can I respectfully suggest that you check the carrying capacity of your Fiamma bike rack?

Average weight of an e-bike is 23kgs. Therefore x 2 = 46kgs.
Average weight of std bike say 14 kgs.Therefore x 2 = 28kgs.

Total weight about 74 kgs if fully loaded!

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Can I respectfully suggest that you check the carrying capacity of your Fiamma bike rack?

Average weight of an e-bike is 23kgs. Therefore x 2 = 46kgs.
Average weight of std bike say 14 kgs.Therefore x 2 = 28kgs.

Total weight about 74 kgs if fully loaded!

You are correct average weight is as you have stated, my rack is a pro c and is a 60kg limit, my two bikes weigh 16kg each so plenty of capacity to spare and that’s without the batteries on board for security.
For info we bought the G-Tec bikes as they suited our purposes.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
 
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You are correct average weight is as you have stated, my rack is a pro c and is a 60kg limit, my two bikes weigh 16kg each so plenty of capacity to spare and that’s without the batteries on board for security.
For info we bought the G-Tec bikes as they suited our purposes.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
My apologies if I misunderstood but your original post stated that you had fitted a Fiamma rack for two bikes and two e-bikes. That makes four bikes at once.

I would be interested in your experience of the G-Tech bikes. I looked at them for my wife but was put off by the single speed transmission. They are lighter than her existing bike though which may be a good thing.
 
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No apologies necessary my poor description, regarding the G Tec bikes I can state that for my wife she has the city with step through and she loves it, it is very easy to ride and the lack of gears is a plus for her as it’s one less thing to think about, I have the sport and it’s a brilliant piece of engineering and the lack of gears do not effect the riding pleasure it just makes it easier you really don’t feel that the gears are missing.
Hope that helps.

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Only if you bring it back in plastic containers my research indicates just over a kilo for a 75cl bottle maybe only 250 to 300 bottles so your wife definately needs the choccies
Bottles are for drinking out of. Plastic bottles are easier to attach to intravenous drips
 
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Well it took Dvla 6 weeks to get my V5 back with the updated revenue weight of 3850kg, my tax has reduced from £255 to £165 for 12 months which is a nice bonus.
Now finishing of my planning for our first trip to Spain in February we are taking the channel tunnel on Sunday 17th and have allowed 3 days to get to our first stop in Benidorm where we are meeting friends.
We then intend running down the coast and stopping where the fancy takes us.
 
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I don’t anticipate travelling with a full fresh water tank but added it for the weighbridge so I could get an idea thanks, I agree that weight will drop as we travel. Likewise this included the E bikes on the bridge. I’m stil not buying chocolates for the wife though.
I have got the weight upgraded to 3850kg so I know we will be fine when my wife starts her packing, and we add all the extras.
But once you enter Spain for some reason you and the wife will get heavier,,weird but it always happens to us,,BUSBY:D:D
 
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Busby that’s simply not true the country doesn’t seem to matter for the wife at least, me I’m hiding this post lol.
 
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