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They already work in the dark most of the time...My granddad worked 50 hours down the pit each week, for 40 years. Shall we make teachers do the same ?
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They already work in the dark most of the time...My granddad worked 50 hours down the pit each week, for 40 years. Shall we make teachers do the same ?
Seems to me that you had kids and then expected that everyone else should be responsible for them (the school / the au pair) because you wanted / enjoyed the responsibility of your highly paid job?
So do teachersThey already work in the dark most of the time...
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That's what I meant...So do teachers
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Thought all the pits were closed!My granddad worked 50 hours down the pit each week, for 40 years. Shall we make teachers do the same ?
Gerri you didn't go into the wrong career any more than I did, you did what you wanted to and loved and hopefully when you get better you will go back to it. After 30 years of working I wasn't earning £40k either and I too had a debt from my degree.
he's not still working, sillyThought all the pits were closed!
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Sshh, don't let facts get in the way of a good rantIf you've worked for thirty years then you must be in some parallel universe to have debt from your degree - fees were introduced in 1998?
If you've worked for thirty years then you must be in some parallel universe to have debt from your degree - fees were introduced in 1998?
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Sorry, I thought you wanted Teachers to work down the pit for 40 years!!he's not still working, silly
Sorry, I thought you wanted Teachers to work down the pit for 40 years!!
If you've worked for thirty years then you must be in some parallel universe to have debt from your degree - fees were introduced in 1998?
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I went to university aged 41 when I had to take a break from work to be a full timer carer for my mother who was dying from cancer. I did a degree to give me something to focus on in between the very difficult traumatic times until she passed away. I chose to do garden design as my mother and I had a huge love for gardens and she spent many hours looking through my designs and planting schemes which also helped her.
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Isn't that flexible working?
And whilst I can admire you looking after your mother, it is something a lot of people do so there is no medals in it. I am a little surprised that you consider a debt generated from a degree in garden design (?), which by your own admission you undertook as a distraction, to be on a par with a debt someone has incurred doing a vocational qualification - something they needed to work as a teacher.
... However I do think flexible working is a way forward as long as it is done sensibly .i introduced it many years ago in a business where I had many ladies and men working for me and had lots of issues with absenteeism until flexitime was introduce .result better production happier workforce and less absenteeism..thats my take on the whole of this issue ..Roy
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Cheer up teacher bashers.
We have our government advocating free market thinking in education then whingeing about too many teachers exercising their free choice and leaving the job, whilst graduates choose freely not to train for it.
We have a growing child population demanding places in the schools of their first choice, but LEAs are being told they can't build any more schools - only Tory-approved 'free' schools are allowed to be built new.
We have Rottweiler-in-Chief Sir Michael Wilshaw advocating golden handcuffs to keep trainee teachers in British schools (and stop fleeing abroad) so he and his pack of OFSTED hounds can keep inspecting and data analysing them into oblivion.
We have schools filling up with low-cost 20 something trainees who quit after a few years exhausted whilst those over 45 are being driven into the ground and squeezed out to cut staffing costs.
Rejoice! Before too long there won't be any idle ineffective taxpayer superannuated whining teachers left to bash
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Now that's something I wouldn't have expected!What they say when you look at it makes sense in cost/benefit terms. Even more surprising so far, the teaching unions seem to be supportive.
Why, the unions recognise that more need to be tempted back into the profession to ease the workload on their members, in primary schools in the UK more than 100,000 infants are being taught in classes larger than the statutory maximum.Now that's something I wouldn't have expected!
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This is the internet and logic goes out the windowWhy is it that so often on this forum, when somebody expresses an opinion and then uses a personal example to explain why they hold that opinion, that they then have to spend the rest of the day defending themselves rather than defending their opinion? That's not 'debate' as I understand it.
Now that's something I wouldn't have expected!
Now that's something I wouldn't have expected!
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