Mid engined Clou Liner for sale

[jongood]

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=430609124&action=eyeCatcher&isSearchRequest=true&ms=%3B%3B%3BClou&pageNumber=2&ref=srp&refId=c701fef7-796a-749c-8da8-cc7d57c341da&s=Motorhome&searchId=c701fef7-796a-749c-8da8-cc7d57c341da&vc=Motorhome

Spec on this is very rare, underfloor engined coach chassis but only 9m. 16 speed manual, had some sensible mods but maybe needs reupholstering (it is 29 years old)

 

[CazPaul]

Looks in decent nick for the age, I like the odd few they made at around 7 metres, just my preference but we don’t need a huge motorhome.

 

[Flairy]

Lovely ,nice layout with leather would be perfect

 

[funflair]

Looks well tidy Jon

 

[jongood]

Looks well tidy Jon

I could be very tempted by the driveline although prefer the styling of our model.

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[Geistguy]

I'm not sure about those 3 steps and what looks like quite a small habitation door. It has aged well though.

 

[jongood]

I'm not sure about those 3 steps and what looks like quite a small habitation door. It has aged well though.

Its higher than a normal Clou liner because its of the chassis but this gives a completely flat floor almost to the windscreen a large garage and very quiet running.

 

[JockandRita]

I really like that Jon but I bet with the long settee layout, it'll be a rear transverse bed, so not for us.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[funflair]

Will the motor be sitting through the lower floor Jon ? and will there be a service hatch like there is on Front engined ?

 

[jongood]

Will the motor be sitting through the lower floor Jon ? and will there be a service hatch like there is on Front engined ?

Ive never actually seen one Martin, super rare.

I imagine the engine is under the living area so fairly easy to put an access panel.

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[funflair]

Hi Jon

I see it is advertised as 16 speed so I am guessing it is actually a 4 speed with splitter and range change (says he sounding like he knows what he is talking about) interesting video though for anybody that thinks driving a truck is easy

 

[WESTY66]

Hi Jon

I see it is advertised as 16 speed so I am guessing it is actually a 4 speed with splitter and range change (says he sounding like he knows what he is talking about) interesting video though for anybody that thinks driving a truck is easy

Oh they are the best gearbox’s, had a 8x8 terberg (Volvo F12) 44ton tipper on a power station, didn’t get the full use out of it but twas lovely to drive
This is a similar one off of t internet

I’ll have to go and look for photos now

 

[WESTY66]

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=430609124&action=eyeCatcher&isSearchRequest=true&ms=%3B%3B%3BClou&pageNumber=2&ref=srp&refId=c701fef7-796a-749c-8da8-cc7d57c341da&s=Motorhome&searchId=c701fef7-796a-749c-8da8-cc7d57c341da&vc=Motorhome

Spec on this is very rare, underfloor engined coach chassis but only 9m. 16 speed manual, had some sensible mods but maybe needs reupholstering (it is 29 years old)

If I had 90k and a class 2 licence I would have deposited on that by now……..




But I don’t have either

 

[CaptainPaul]

Ive never actually seen one Martin, super rare.

I imagine the engine is under the living area so fairly easy to put an access panel.

Beautiful big bus Jon & amazing condition, i can't imagine it sitting too long before it's sold
Im quite sure it would have an engine access hatch and if not they're very easily done.. I've fitted several to various boats over the years

 

[funflair]

Beautiful big bus Jon & amazing condition, i can't imagine it sitting too long before it's sold
Im quite sure it would have an engine access hatch and if not they're very easily done.. I've fitted several to various boats over the years

My guess is it has whatever it needs by now, the motor must be sitting through the lower floor between the chassis rails so I imagine it has access from above, it's just a layout I have not seen so don't really know how they are built.

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[paddymcc]

I don't think my 'grandfather rights' would stretch to that! Looks in VGC, very nice.

 

[jongood]

Hi Jon

I see it is advertised as 16 speed so I am guessing it is actually a 4 speed with splitter and range change (says he sounding like he knows what he is talking about) interesting video though for anybody that thinks driving a truck is easy

Similar to that one I think Martin. You get used to it quite quickly. Easiest seen as 8 speed with high and low for each gear. you do a lot of block changing, I would imagine you would use max 6 gears all in high and flick it in an out of low/high on hill climbs. The biggest change is from low to high when you have to take it out of 4th, switch the range and then go into 1st which becomes 5th the upper range is then probably ok to deal with everything -roundabouts etc unless you have to actually stop.

The split operates by preselecting the chosen position and just briefly dipping the clutch, so if you're on a steep climb you can give yourself another chunk of torque very quickly. Tbf 16 is probably a bit overkill at this weight/ power. Later trucks even 44t tend to be 12spd.

 

[CazPaul]

Good grief and I presumed all the 90s running gear was less complicated

 

[JockandRita]

Good grief and I presumed all the 90s running gear was less complicated

It certainly keeps you on your toes and you mind on the road Paul. It sounds complicated, but as Jon says, you get used to it quite quickly.
I prefer them to auto boxes.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[CazPaul]

It certainly keeps you on your toes and you mind on the road Paul. It sounds complicated, but as Jon says, you get used to it quite quickly.
I prefer them to auto boxes.

Cheers,

Jock.

Ah so they’re not just 90s running gear then Jock but are in much later units too?

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[funflair]

I was watching the video yesterday with Dave and thought 4th to 1st/5th might be a bit of leap of faith the first time

 

[JockandRita]

Ah so they’re not just 90s running gear then Jock but are in much later units too?

Sorry if I misled you with my last post Paul.
No, not much later than 90s/early 2000s.
As Jon again mentioned above, 12 x speed (6+6) became more common, and these days most (if not all) new Trucks are autos, which takes much of the pleasure of driving away for me. Others will no doubt disagree, sat in their armchair drivers seat with a full auto box.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[funflair]

Sorry if I misled you with my last post Paul.
No, not much later than 90s/early 2000s.
As Jon again mentioned above, 12 x speed (6+6) became more common, and these days most (if not all) new Trucks are autos, which takes much of the pleasure of driving away for me. Others will no doubt disagree, sat in their armchair drivers seat with a full auto box.

Cheers,

Jock.

I think I might get away with 6+6 Jock but most likely still prefer the armchair and full auto

 

[WESTY66]

I think I might get away with 6+6 Jock but most likely still prefer the armchair and full auto

I’m with jock on this, rather a manual any day, an old Volvo16 speed is a joy to drive (the short time I used one, off road of course) the old 1980’s foden S80’s and Haulmasters 12 speed was a pig and the old Magirus Deutz bonneted 6 wheel tipper was a bugger to get in any gear (all off road driving on colliery sites or power stations back in the day you didn’t need a HGV licence to drive a stocking lorry)

Yes I was always (and still am) a wannabe trucker but failed the medical at 21

 

[JockandRita]

Yes I was always (and still am) a wannabe trucker but failed the medical at 21

Unlucky Ade.
At 68, I am actually contemplating whether or not to do another HGV/PSV medical come October time.

Cheers,

Jock.

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[WESTY66]

Unlucky Ade.
At 68, I am actually contemplating whether or not to do another HGV/PSV medical come October time.

Cheers,

Jock.

Just do it and put my name on it

 

[jongood]

Ah so they’re not just 90s running gear then Jock but are in much later units too?

Manual box is an extra cost option these days ( economics of scale)

Most of the Truck "auto" boxes are in fact robotised manuals.

 

[jongood]

I think I might get away with 6+6 Jock but most likely still prefer the armchair and full auto

The easiest old style truck box was the Merc 10 speed fitted to some ategos, 5 gear positions with a splitter easily enough for Motorhome weights. By contract the early semi and full merc autos were ponderous things, especially on hills.

 

[funflair]

The easiest old style truck box was the Merc 10 speed fitted to some ategos, 5 gear positions with a splitter easily enough for Motorhome weights. By contract the early semi and full merc autos were ponderous things, especially on hills.

So how does the box know if you are splitting up or down

 

[WESTY66]

So how does the box know if you are splitting up or down

It’s usually via a lever on the gearstick, on the early F10/12’s it was on the dash and the range change on the lever, then around 84/85ish they did the 12 speed with both on the gearstick, I know nothing about the merc set ups.
On the old 80’s Daf 2300 8 speed the range change you would come from 4th into neutral then a sharp jab to the left via an air switch then into 1st again which would be fifth, so in effect it had like an air gate in neutral to push through up or down the range. I believe the bigger 2800/3300 had options of splitters as well, so 16 speed was all the range back then
It’s all done by magic Martin funflair
I probably haven’t explained it very well jongood and JockandRita would explain it better as they have had far more hours in them

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