Land Rover Discovery 4 (1 Viewer)

[Van Aert]

Interested to know if anyone either owns one or has owned one and what their experience of it has been (particularly late 2015 early 2016 model)?

I know of the scare stories on landyzone and pistonheads etc but was wondering if they were a good car for you?

Thanks

 

[The Coops]

Is that the model where you have to lift the body off the subframe to replace an exhaust or am I getting my landrovers mixed up?

 

[Van Aert]

Could be, no idea really just bought one on a whim!……

 

[CazPaul]

How much is the road tax?

 

[Bobby-gg]

Is that the model where you have to lift the body off the subframe to replace an exhaust or am I getting my landrovers mixed up?

Yes, you don't have to but it easier to remove the body to change the turbo's, glow plugs etc......

That's why I hunted down the 4.4 petrol V8 D3, non of those issues,

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[Landy Andy]

You just air saw the studs off the turbo manifold and when refitting use bolts rather than studs and nuts. All independent LR garages know this trick, and it’s not like you swap turbo each year.

 

[Van Aert]

How much is the road tax?

£415.00

 

[Jewellbags]

I bought. 2012 model earlier this year (feb I think) with 76k miles . Nothing , absolutely nothing on it has stopped working - been a gem .

 

[Jake Royd]

One of many excellent LR themed stuff.
In another life I was part of the power train design team on the first independently sprung Discovery, T5 , came out about 2005.
I'd like one.
Get an auto.

 

[Van Aert]

One of many excellent LR themed stuff.
In another life I was part of the power train design team on the first independently sprung Discovery, T5 , came out about 2005.
I'd like one.
Get an auto.

Thanks , yes I got an auto - SE Tech model

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[Bobby-gg]

My D3 V8 HSE next to my old D2 td5 HSE

 

[Jake Royd]

Thanks , yes I got an auto - SE Tech model



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Can't remember how far back Christian (LRTime) goes but he has a superb episode explaining why the Peugeot derived 2.7 V6 has a problem with mains and big ends. Essentially it's because of the constraints on block length imposed via the design brief.
He's a great engineer and quite funny in a German sort of way.

 

[A-Mech]

Can't remember how far back Christian (LRTime) goes but he has a superb episode explaining why the Peugeot derived 2.7 V6 has a problem with mains and big ends. Essentially it's because of the constraints on block length imposed via the design brief.
He's a great engineer and quite funny in a German sort of way.

Asking about 15-16 My will be 3.0ltr lump. My experience of JLR having just retired from them after 24 years is, every car manufacturer has problems and some cars give lots of issues and some give none. I had lots of new D3 & D4 (every 9-12 months exchanged and had no engine problems)

The D4 asked about, could have seized /snapped crank issues, but Landrover could never identify why they had cars that failed and other cars that went from service to service with no problems.

Yes, they knew "why" the failures occurred, but it wasn't nailed down to parts supply problems, specific chassis range or dealer servicing issue, etc.

In short, there was research on a rapid response ambulance paramedic service that had 31 cars. They thought that engines stood still, then driven at max torque quickly could be a contributor to premiture failures. The ECU was also turned up to offer more power to emergency services.

The health board had 9 cars with failures. 4 more of these 9 vehicles had secondary failures and 1 car had third engine replacement.
No factors, such as driver, servicing dealer or specialist role(driver training car) can attribute fault

Yes, you could have wishbone, turbos, induction and exhausts. (studs replacement to bolts)
JLR use PSA / FORD engines .

But overall the car is excellent and I would recommend purchase.

The same could not be said for D5 (all new discovery) with ingenuim lump built in house.

I don't really think road tax is a consideration if your looking to buy any performance vehicle.

All manufactured cars have problems. But if you want something ultra reliable with no sole, buy Toyota.

 

[Van Aert]

Asking about 15-16 My will be 3.0ltr lump. My experience of JLR having just retired from them after 24 years is, every car manufacturer has problems and some cars give lots of issues and some give none. I had lots of new D3 & D4 (every 9-12 months exchanged and had no engine problems)

The D4 asked about, could have seized /snapped crank issues, but Landrover could never identify why they had cars that failed and other cars that went from service to service with no problems.

Yes, they knew "why" the failures occurred, but it wasn't nailed down to parts supply problems, specific chassis range or dealer servicing issue, etc.

In short, there was research on a rapid response ambulance paramedic service that had 31 cars. They thought that engines stood still, then driven at max torque quickly could be a contributor to premiture failures. The ECU was also turned up to offer more power to emergency services.

The health board had 9 cars with failures. 4 more of these 9 vehicles had secondary failures and 1 car had third engine replacement.
No factors, such as driver, servicing dealer or specialist role(driver training car) can attribute fault

Yes, you could have wishbone, turbos, induction and exhausts. (studs replacement to bolts)
JLR use PSA / FORD engines .

But overall the car is excellent and I would recommend purchase.

The same could not be said for D5 (all new discovery) with ingenuim lump built in house.

I don't really think road tax is a consideration if your looking to buy any performance vehicle.

All manufactured cars have problems. But if you want something ultra reliable with no sole, buy Toyota.

Thank you , that is a very informative post.

 

[jerryz]

Asking about 15-16 My will be 3.0ltr lump. My experience of JLR having just retired from them after 24 years is, every car manufacturer has problems and some cars give lots of issues and some give none. I had lots of new D3 & D4 (every 9-12 months exchanged and had no engine problems)

The D4 asked about, could have seized /snapped crank issues, but Landrover could never identify why they had cars that failed and other cars that went from service to service with no problems.

Yes, they knew "why" the failures occurred, but it wasn't nailed down to parts supply problems, specific chassis range or dealer servicing issue, etc.

In short, there was research on a rapid response ambulance paramedic service that had 31 cars. They thought that engines stood still, then driven at max torque quickly could be a contributor to premiture failures. The ECU was also turned up to offer more power to emergency services.

The health board had 9 cars with failures. 4 more of these 9 vehicles had secondary failures and 1 car had third engine replacement.
No factors, such as driver, servicing dealer or specialist role(driver training car) can attribute fault

Yes, you could have wishbone, turbos, induction and exhausts. (studs replacement to bolts)
JLR use PSA / FORD engines .

But overall the car is excellent and I would recommend purchase.

The same could not be said for D5 (all new discovery) with ingenuim lump built in house.

I don't really think road tax is a consideration if your looking to buy any performance vehicle.

All manufactured cars have problems. But if you want something ultra reliable with no sole, buy Toyota.

The most reliable V6 ever over last 50 years is the Nissan platform one from 2L, 2.5L 3l 3.5L 3.7L and even to 4.6 its better then the Toyota V6

I love Discovery 3 and 4 looks but in my experience the old Disco 2 is easier to work on and more reliable. JLR when you get a good one are fantastic ,, but its a lottery ....The old TD5 engine was bomb proof the V6 less so .

You can do a lot of work on D3 and D4 without lifting body off chassis , but then you need to be like a brain surgeon and very flexible

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[379inca]

Interested to know if anyone either owns one or has owned one and what their experience of it has been (particularly late 2015 early 2016 model)?

I know of the scare stories on landyzone and pistonheads etc but was wondering if they were a good car for you?

Thanks

Had two. An early 59 plate disco 4 2.7 and a 65 plate 3.0 both were commercial spec so lower road tax. They both covered in excess of 150000 miles of hard farm use on and off road, daily drivers and lots of short stop start runs. No issues at all with either vehicle. Regular annual service plus changed the gearbox oil and internal filter at 100000 on both. Very comfortable and surprisingly quick given their weight.

 

[dabhand]

I bought an HSE Disco 4 new in May 2015, it’s been brilliant very little trouble with it, had the reversing camera replaced under warranty after a couple of years.

 

[Cejay]

I've owned 2 x Disco 3 and 2 x Disco 4. They were some of the best and most useful vehicles I have ever owned. I used to clock 600 miles a week minimum for several years, apart from regular servicing and normal wear and tear, I never had any major problems with any of them.

 

[Jake Royd]

One thing I talk about when reliability comes up in a conversation is this.
Think back to the 80' and 90's when the JDPower scale of car reliability was the main yardstick.
Think of this as a linear scale from 1 to 10.
Toyota/Honda at the top and yes Land Rover, Jaguar Skoda perhaps at the bottom.
Populate the scale anyway you want, faults/1000m , days off road , cost of ownership etc.
Today , that same scale only goes from say 1 to 2 , in other words everything is more reliable today than those vehicles from say 2 to 10 on the original scale.
Yes, LR are still down the new scale.
On this new scale nearly everything is reliable , a Dacia is as reliable as a Toyota shall we say.
The difference in the publics mind is perceived reliability, that's an entirely different thing.

The main reason for this is now with computer aided design/stress analysis/DFMEA's etc etc. The whole industry uses the same tools and the same prototype and development routes.

An JLR product is very complex compared to a Dacia and so you do get more failures. The more systems you have is on variable that impinges on reliability.

 

[dabhand]

Your bound to get more failures if you drive your landrover it rough conditions which, after all is what they were made for init