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[bornagain]

Hi,
We are interested in buying a Hymer 2014 B544, the owner states that the maximum weight is 3500Kg.
Does anybody know what the maximum capacity of the motorhome is likely to be ? I accept that it will need rebadging.
Regards
P

 

[Hymerbell]

Hi,
We are interested in buying a Hymer 2014 B544, the owner states that the maximum weight is 3500Kg.
Does anybody know what the maximum capacity of the motorhome is likely to be ? I accept that it will need rebadging.
Regards
P

4250kg with lots of expensive upgrades I think...

 

[Rapphil]

Maybe of interest ?

An excellent opportunity to acquire a well sought after motorhome with the layout and accessories for full time living or long periods away with all the facilities onboard for self sufficiency.

Hymer B544

Left hand drive 3 berth 2012 6.5m long 2.35m wide 2.9m high.

Fiat Ducato Maxi Al-ko chassis 4250kg with lots of payload.

150hp Euro 5 2.3 Multi-jet ll engine

Comfortmatic robotised semi-automatic gearbox

Cruise control, hill holder, ABS, ESC and Hill decent.

16” Alloy wheels with new Michelin Aplin 3 peak winter tyres including the spare with same. 225/75R16c 121/120 R

Front fog lights

Exterior is in Sierra Grey Metallic with Champagne wheel arch’s and skirting trim.

On the exterior of the motorhome is a covered lockable fuel filler cap, covered lockable water filler cap, covered electric hook-up Point,

Gas-low filler on the Gas locker door.

Thule Omnistor 8200 Electric Automatic Awing with a Remote control size 4.5m x 2.5

A Waeco Reversing Camera with auto shield.

Fiamma bike rack for two bikes.

SOG housing on the cassette door locker.

A Lockable external barbecue housing point with bayonet fitting.

Electric steps for the rear habitation door and drivers door.

On the roof we have an Oyster Vision lll 85cm Automatic seeking satellite dish and digital receiver with remote control and Sat-mouse.

3x100 Watt quality Solar panels that feed their own 3x Victron MMPT 75/15 regulators so if a panel is shaded you will still get power.

To compliment the Solar system is a Victron BMV-712 smart Bluetooth battery monitor.

A quality Dab Ariel.

In the interior.

The interior fabric is Palermo, with the front seats being Aguti fully adjustable swivel seats.

Front drop down bed which kingsize fitted sheets fit perfectly with skylight and twin LED reading lights, magazine/bits and bobs holders.

Plenty of aircraft style head height lockers with under storage.

Tv swing arm mount.

LED lights throughout.

The Cab front has Automatic Air Conditioning with dash cooler small glovebox and a larger central lockable glovebox.

Switching for the retractable hab step with alarm, controls for the fully adjustable heated coach mirrors.

Storage areas with large cup/bottle holders for driver and passenger, storage cupboard on the passenger side.

Two 12v points.

A New Pioneer double din head unit with CD, DAB, Bluetooth, phone mike and USB for connecting accessories/phone.With up graded speakers.

The unit displays the reversing camera view and can be operated while moving or engine turned off.

A Hymer premium up graded table which gives more space but is fully extendable which swivels with side to side movement.

Large Dometic AES 160ltr fridge freezer RMD 8505 recently serviced with new cooling paste change and applied. Large cupboard above which houses the 3x Victron solar monitors.

3 ring gas hob with electronic ignition

Four large pull out kitchen drawers that house a bin, cutlery draw and compartment draws for crockery, saucepans and food, two cupboards above.

Double wardrobe, coat hanging space with cupboard under for storage and also houses the 240v fuse box.

All windows/skylights have blinds and mosquito nets including the hab door.

The toilet/shower compartment house’s an electric flush toilet which has a level indicator, a large wheeled cassette that has a professional installation of a SOG system installed and spare cassette, a large bathroom cupboard, sink and shower with an ingenious moving door that gives a large shower compartment with duck boards in the shower tray.

Technical:

The comprehensive solar system supplies power to two new Exide G80 80Ah Gel Batteries (the last AGM’s lasted 7yrs) with a battery master that supplies a charge to the bosch S5 019 100ah cab battery.

Victron BMV-712 Bluetooth monitor that you can view and control on your smartphone.

Waeco 1512 Pure sine wave Inverter with remote and priority supplying 6 mains sockets.

Additional 12v power points and USB power sockets with volt meters displaying real-time voltage of the habitation batteries and the cab battery.

Gaslow LPG system with two 11kg cylinders with auto/manual changeover and external filler.

Vanbitz Growler alarm system covering all doors and lockers with bike/accessory loop

Vanbitz strikeback Non starter system with pager and locator tracking system, this alarm is controllable through your phone, you are able to arm, immobilise and track the vehicle with your phone and it will call you if the alarm is activated and give you information on entry and location of the vehicle. The ongoing cost of this is just a top up of the SIM card. I usually put around £10 on the sim yearly. Fully transferable.

Dometic key operated safe.

120ltr fresh water tank, 100ltr waste tank. Both tanks are located between the double floor which is heated for winter use. Many floor storage cubbies one of which is deep and large ideal as a wine cellar.

The vehicle has an extensive service history throughout its 70k mileage and has never given any concern or trouble throughout my 3yrs of ownership. The motorhome was bought for cash (no finance) from an existing funster of Motorhome fun and has a full investigative history. The V5 shows one former keeper since 2012.

I have the all important COC (certificate of conformity)

All manuals for all the equipment, paper and digitally.

All mots and service receipts and lots of other paperwork associated with equipment and the motorhome.

I have many spare keys.
Full carpet set which I have not used.

Mot expiry 26-11-2020

Tax is £165 per year

This motorhome has been a joy to travel in around Europe without any hiccups at all, what ever it needed was done and more. Being only 6.5m long it does fit in most parking spaces if you can get it in backwards for the short overhang, I’ve been all over Europe including up in the Pyrenees and have got where ever I wanted to be.
I used to get an average of 31mpg tested over 10k miles with continental tyres, with the new Michelin tyres I appear to be getting around 28-30mpg so far but have done little miles on them.

I never had to plug in to EHU unless it was in with a pitch price, it is very comfortable with the large layout and having friends around for dinner, there is a third pull out bed from one of the benches. There are four seatbelts. It is very well insulated and is very warm in the winter and cool in summer.

The satellite system is excellent and I have had U.K. tv down as far as Benidorm. The 22’ tv is not in the sale as it has a problem but it works as it should and can be in the van when sold

The Motorhome is in very good condition but does have signs of wear and tear according to its age.

I am disabled and the motorhome has disabled hand controls professionally made and fitted which just bolt on and can easily be taken off which I can do. The motorhome can still be driven with them on by anyone as the foot pedals are not affected and if needed the controls can be left on.
Awaiting a wash and polish

This is a very reluctant sale for a very genuine reason.

I am in Cornwall And will be as accommodating as possible for anyone to view the Motorhome which is located on my drive near Truro/Redruth. I can pick up from a train/bus station or Newquay airport and can even accommodate serious buyers. I can send pictures of what you need to see and can also video call and show you around it.


Any enquires please pm me.

£48,000

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[RowleyBirkinQC]

May depend on which chassis it’s on, light or heavy?

 

[Bessy765]

If its on 225/70/r15 tyres with semi air max is 3850 if it on 16” tyres with heavy chassis 4000 of 4250

 

[Just smiffy]

Hi,
We are interested in buying a Hymer 2014 B544, the owner states that the maximum weight is 3500Kg.
Does anybody know what the maximum capacity of the motorhome is likely to be ? I accept that it will need rebadging.
Regards
P

You would have to be very careful on the payload on a B544 at 3500kg....

this will give you some idea...

Hymer B544 2012 Comfortmatic

An excellent opportunity to acquire a well sought after motorhome with the layout and accessories for full time living or long periods away with all the facilities onboard for self sufficiency. Hymer B544 Left hand drive 3 berth 2012 6.5m long 2.35m wide 2.9m high. Fiat Ducato Maxi Al-ko...

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

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[Hettie's Crew]

Ours is a 2014 B544 and it depends on the chassis and wheels. We are on 15inch wheels and the AMC35L (light) chassis. We had to change the tyre size from 215/70 to 225/70 and have rear air assist suspension fitted to go 3850kg which is the maximum for the light chassis.
The main problem with B544’s, along with a lot of motorhomes, is the rear axle capacity being easily reached. Standard it’s 2000kg but goes to 2240kg with the above modifications.
Check wheels/chassis, it may be a 16inch/heavy (AMC37H) that is rated at 3500kg for licence purposes.

 

[bornagain]

Hettie's Crew,

Thanks for that, I have asked for a photo of the weight plate and the tyres, I hope this will give me a clue, but your answer raises two points;-

1. We have a desire to be away for months at a time so how do you find a 3850Kg weight limit, is it a problem for you ?

2. How do you tell which chassis you have ? presumably it is stamped somewhere, but where ?

Regards

P

 

[SIFTA SAM]

Ours is a 2014 B544 and it depends on the chassis and wheels. We are on 15inch wheels and the AMC35L (light) chassis. We had to change the tyre size from 215/70 to 225/70 and have air assist suspension fitted to go 3850kg which is the maximum for the light chassis.
The main problem with B544’s, along with a lot of motorhomes, is the rear axle capacity being easily reached. Standard it’s 2000kg but goes to 2240kg with the above modifications.
Check wheels/chassis, it may be a 16inch/heavy (AMC37H) that is rated at 3500kg for licence purposes.

I think that the same chassis is limited to 3750kg max with no modifications?

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[Hettie's Crew]

Hettie's Crew,

Thanks for that, I have asked for a photo of the weight plate and the tyres, I hope this will give me a clue, but your answer raises two points;-

1. We have a desire to be away for months at a time so how do you find a 3850Kg weight limit, is it a problem for you ?

2. How do you tell which chassis you have ? presumably it is stamped somewhere, but where ?

Regards

P

We’ve (2 adults and a dog) spent months at a time away and never had a problem. We also have jacks fitted and our weight with us onboard, fully loaded/fuelled ready for the off is 3600kg.
Check the Alko plate at the bottom for chassis type.

 

[bornagain]

We’ve (2 adults and a dog) spent months at a time away and never had a problem. We also have jacks fitted and our weigh with us onboard, fully loaded/fuelled ready for off is 3600kg.
Check the Alko plate at the bottom for chassis type.

Thanks for that, looks like we should be OK, we live locally to you, where did you weigh your machine, we did our old caravan at the Humber bridge but I think that weighscale has gone...

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

We’ve (2 adults and a dog) spent months at a time away and never had a problem. We also have jacks fitted and our weigh with us onboard, fully loaded/fuelled ready for off is 3600kg.
Check the Alko plate at the bottom for chassis type.

Out of interest, what’s your typical rear axle weight when ready for the off? Maybe useful to the OP to see how much over the original plated load capacity (if at all).

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[Hettie's Crew]

Thanks for that, looks like we should be OK, we live locally to you, where did you weigh your machine, we did our old caravan at the Humber bridge but I think that weighscale has gone...

We got weighed by SVTECH at Peterborough Show when Jim arranged for them to do free weight checks but we also use the King George Dock weight scales. You just drive up to the gate tell them you’re getting weighed and it’s just beyond the gate on the right.

 

[bornagain]

We got weighed by SVTECH at Peterborough Show when Jim arranged for them to do free weight checks but we also use the King George Dock weight scales. You just drive up to the gate tell them you’re getting weighed and it’s just beyond the gate on the right.

Thanks, we will no doubt be paying a visit.

 

[Hettie's Crew]

Out of interest, what’s your typical rear axle weight when ready for the off? Maybe useful to the OP to see how much over the original plated load capacity (if at all).

1970kg, too close to the original 2000kg max for comfort, that’s why we went to 2240kg with the tyres/air.

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[bornagain]

1970kg, too close to the original 2000kg max for comfort, that’s why we went to 2240kg with the tyres/air.

While we are at it, I read elsewhere on the forum that you have had your cambelt etc changed, could you indicate where you got it done and roughly how much it cost ?
Regards
P

 

[Hettie's Crew]

While we are at it, I read elsewhere on the forum that you have had your cambelt etc changed, could you indicate where you got it done and roughly how much it cost ?
Regards
P

We use North East Truck and Van for our services and they did the cambelt change. We had the five year service/mot done at the same time and it came to just over £1000, the parts alone for the genuine Fiat cambelt kit came in at £350 plus VAT and it was quite involved being an A Class.
NET&V have been very reasonably priced for a Fiat Professional garage.

 

[bornagain]

Spot on, thanks.
I see that they have branches in Hull & Immingham so that is pretty convenient.
Ta
P

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[Hettie's Crew]

Spot on, thanks.
I see that they have branches in Hull & Immingham so that is pretty convenient.
Ta
P

Just for info the previous couple of services including mot were £280.

 

[bornagain]

Hi,
Any offers on what this plate tells us ?
Regards
Patrick

 

[Hettie's Crew]

1 front axle max, 2 rear axle max, 5500= max train weight ie vehicle plus trailer and 3500 is your max permissible load weight.
You must have the extra Goldsmitt front springs to be 2000kg rather than the standard 1850kg.

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[bornagain]

So presumably this means that it is a lightweight chassis and therefore the maximum weight upgrade would be to 3850 by changing the tyres and installing air assist suspension ?
Agree ?
Regards
Patrick

 

[Hettie's Crew]

So presumably this means that it is a lightweight chassis and therefore the maximum weight upgrade would be to 3850 by changing the tyres and installing air assist suspension ?
Agree ?
Regards
Patrick

Agree, highly likely but you still need to look at the plate as shown in post #10 above to be sure.

 

[Lenny HB]

So presumably this means that it is a lightweight chassis and therefore the maximum weight upgrade would be to 3850 by changing the tyres and installing air assist suspension ?
Agree ?
Regards
Patrick

You can uprate to 3850 without any mods.
You would only need mods to increase the rear axle load assuming it is an Al-Ko chassis to increase the rear axle to 2240kg you would need air assist or full air on the rear if wheels are 16" tyres will probably be OK, if 15" you will need 225 width tyres.

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[Hettie's Crew]

You can uprate to 3850 without any mods

Not sure about that Lenny HB, the Hymer weight plate shown indicates the rear axle is the standard 2000kg and the front is higher rated to 2000kg from the standard 1850kg because it will have been fitted with the Goldsmitt (?Spelling) springs.
This is exactly how ours was as new and it was rated as 3700kg from the factory. When we enquired with SV Tech they said it couldn’t go to 3850kg without the rear axle/tyre mods.

 

[Lenny HB]

Not sure about that Lenny HB, the Hymer weight plate shown indicates the rear axle is the standard 2000kg and the front is higher rated to 2000kg from the standard 1850kg because it will have been fitted with the Goldsmitt (?Spelling) springs.
This is exactly how ours was as new and it was rated as 3700kg from the factory. When we enquired with SV Tech they said it couldn’t go to 3850kg without the rear axle/tyre mods.

Did it on my last Hymer that was rated at 2000 on both axles.

 

[BusyBuilder]

Our B544 2012 Version is on maxi chassis, 4250kg, even loaded up with food, diesel water and dog we are at about 3600kg. We have air assist on back and Goldschmitt springs on front.

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[Compactliner]

Did it on my last Hymer that was rated at 2000 on both axles.

my Carthago had plates for 3650 and 3850 (just the sum of the axles) with no mods other than 16" wheels which it came with....
as it happens, i run it at 3500 (for my own reasons) but i could uprate easily at anytime.

 

[G-RMPS]

Agree with Lenny’s #24. That’s exactly what I got from SV Tech. If you have 15” wheels (215/70) theoretically you could increase the rear axle to 2060, but you would still need someone to bless this so you could display an uprated data plate.

 

[Hettie's Crew]

Agree with Lenny’s #24. That’s exactly what I got from SV Tech. If you have 15” wheels (215/70) theoretically you could increase the rear axle to 2060, but you would still need someone to bless this so you could display an uprated data plate.

If the axle is rated and plated at 2000kgs it won’t matter what tyres go on the end of it if the axle itself isn’t modified in some way, like air assist.

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