How a simple cambelt replacement led to an engine disaster some 10 months later.

[martin2603]

Just a note on the use of « Geuine Manufacture’s Parts. Just had 3 clutches fitted to my 3litre 2011 IVECO Daily, The first clutch was slipping due to leak from the rear main seal. No Problem , repairing garage insisted on supplying parts. Seal and full clutch fitted. Day one oil pouring from the Bell Housing! Back to Garage. Genuine IVECO seal fitted no leak. Week 3 Clutch starts slipping. Back again. Genuine IVECO Clutch fitted , off we go again. Week 3 again it starts slipping. Now they are starting to loose interest, unfortunately I wasn’t ! Out it came again looks like the Centre plate on the gearbox side has been contaminated, possibly from overlubrication of the release bearing. Now , the Genuine IVECO Clutch is also made by LUK. SO ALL three clutches are manufactured by LUK. IVECO buy them and box them up and charge 1£k for the full kit. Moral of the story check who has stamped the parts! Before parting with your money . The conclusion of this tale is that I believe the Garage have greased the shaft when LUK Specifically say do not grease plastic bearing carriers. The owner of the garage whom I have known for years was adamant that they should be greased. I have just emailed him guidance notes for these bearing from LUK. !
I paid £400.00 less for the current full clutch than IVECO Charged for the same item!
I wait to see if it will start slipping again.

 

[Thornebt]

Lots of BMWs suffer cam chain issues. N47 is renowned for it. Chains stretch, tensioners fail, guides wear. And then the cost is much higher than a new belt. Some chained engines are well engineered, but others, not so much. It's not a universal silver bullet.

I'd always prefer a camchain. Never had a problem with them. Had a couple of cambelts fail on cars though.

 

[Terry]

I always thought they gave at least 12 months warranty no matter which cam belt used.
Camper uk gave a fixed price saying it takes 6 hours We watched the mechanic take the van keys from us at 9am -van moved around the back at 10 then went on the lift at 10.20 and front wheel removed - mechanic went for dinner around 12.30 returning at 1.30 - Returned van to us just after 2. He also changed water pump. Also two auxiliary belts for additional £30
Edit 2years warranty with Camper uk

 

[oldiesontour]

I always thought they gave at least 12 months warranty no matter which cam belt used.
Camper uk gave a fixed price saying it takes 6 hours We watched the mechanic take the van keys from us at 9am -van moved around the back at 10 then went on the lift at 10.20 and front wheel removed - mechanic went for dinner around 12.30 returning at 1.30 - Returned van to us just after 2. He also changed water pump. Also two auxiliary belts for additional £30
Edit 2years warranty with Camper uk

If kit Is supplied and fitted then you would have a guarantee,but you supply parts,garage can blame belt,belt supplier can blame fitter,could be a long fight.
A very short 6 hours work then,bet the fixed price was based on 6 not 21/2 hrs !

 

[IRHP]

Adams Morey did mine it took them about 5½ hours.

There's a few tea breaks in that.

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[Terry]

Forgot to say van is an A class

 

[EuroTrotters]

Cambelt / timing belts are a right royal PITA.

I have just had the belt changed our old fiat ducato (Iveco engine). 2nd time in 8 years, changed on age rather than mileage. £225

Our other three motorhomes all had timing chains, as do most of my cars.

But I have an Audi in Spain. That, like our previous Audi, was due a belt and pump change last year. That was a real pain to get Someone to change. Eventually, I found a local garage (Polish) to do the work , €555.

Then I received an email from feu vert in Benidorm, €450.

I keep looking at replacement motorhomes. Trying to find anything with a true torque converter automatic with a chain driven engine and left hand drive !. Difficult