Hot Weather Damage

[Mr Librium]

Hi all,
I recently got back from a holiday abroad(without van), to find some issues with my cabinet doors/drawer facia's.
It seems the hot couple of days the UK had 2-3 weeks ago has peeled the edges of the wood coverings. I'm guessing that they are originally applied with heat etc. but can anyone give any guidance as to how I may 'stick' them back down?
They have all gone quite hard again now but in a peeled shape, so I have attempted using a small flat iron to re-stick them to no avail, any other suggestions other than sending them back to the installer?
Cheers.

 

[MattR]

Hi all,
I recently got back from a holiday abroad(without van), to find some issues with my cabinet doors/drawer facia's.
It seems the hot couple of days the UK had 2-3 weeks ago has peeled the edges of the wood coverings. I'm guessing that they are originally applied with heat etc. but can anyone give any guidance as to how I may 'stick' them back down?
They have all gone quite hard again now but in a peeled shape, so I have attempted using a small flat iron to re-stick them to no avail, any other suggestions other than sending them back to the installer?
Cheers.

View attachment 656175View attachment 656176

I'd keep evidence and contact the installer if they are under guarantee. If not, I'd use PVA to stick them back.

 

[Mr Librium]

No longer under guarantee and it was a second hand van when we purchased it. Not sure if PVA would cope with some heat to soften the edging but might be worth a go. Cheers.

 

[Phill D]

If the installer can’t help then the iron on edging is fairly cheap and easy to get.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Best not to put an iron on directly,use a piece of clean printer type paper between the iron and the trim and once the iron is hot slowly move the iron over the paper taking care that the trim is in the right place. There should be sufficient glue behind the trim to remelt and stick it back in place.
If you use an iron directly it may shrink or burn the trim.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Mr Librium]

If the installer can’t help then the iron on edging is fairly cheap and easy to get.

Problem is the front is rounded off to the edge, so there isn't really an edge that could be removed and replaced... unless I cut it off to make an edge... but then it wouldn't match the undamaged doors/facias.

 

[Minxy]

I wonder if a steamer that you'd use for clothes might work as that could soften the trim to allow you to straighten/flatten it and restock it.

 

[Mr Librium]

Best not to put an iron on directly,use a piece of clean printer type paper between the iron and the trim and once the iron is hot slowly move the iron over the paper taking care that the trim is in the right place. There should be sufficient glue behind the trim to remelt and stick it back in place.
If you use an iron directly it may shrink or burn the trim.

This is exactly what I found, with paper... it just shrunk!

 

[Mr Librium]

I wonder if a steamer that you'd use for clothes might work as that could soften the trim to allow you to straighten/flatten it and restock it.

Possible, wondered if a hair dryer might work too.

 

[Minxy]

If you know who converted it why not give them a call as they will be used to the material and should be able to suggest the best way to sort it.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Minxy]

Possible, wondered if a hair dryer might work too.

Is it a laminate, ie real wood trim, or mock, ie plastic?

 

[Mr Librium]

If you know who converted it why not give them a call as they will be used to the material and should be able to suggest the best way to sort it.

I have emailed them but not heard anything yet, next step phone call.

 

[Mr Librium]

Is it a laminate, ie real wood trim, or mock, ie plastic?

Plastic

 

[pampam]

Im with minxy id try hairdryer and a pair of soft gloves and see if it will push back into shape

 

[Mr Librium]

Im with minxy id try hairdryer and a pair of soft gloves and see if it will push back into shape

Yes, I can certainly try it on a panel that isn't too obvious.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Oh,if its plastic an iron is no good,the plastic trim just sticks down with hand pressure.

 

[joe and sue]

Hi all,
I recently got back from a holiday abroad(without van), to find some issues with my cabinet doors/drawer facia's.
It seems the hot couple of days the UK had 2-3 weeks ago has peeled the edges of the wood coverings. I'm guessing that they are originally applied with heat etc. but can anyone give any guidance as to how I may 'stick' them back down?
They have all gone quite hard again now but in a peeled shape, so I have attempted using a small flat iron to re-stick them to no avail, any other suggestions other than sending them back to the installer?
Cheers.

View attachment 656175View attachment 656176

Strip them off, find matching edging tape, Ebay , clean the edges and apply new with an iron.
Where are you, I may be able to help,
Joe

 

[Verteuil Man]

I had the same issue on a couple of vans. It seems to be where the sun comes through the roof lights. I used PVA as I could not get any joy from the dealer or the manufacturer. I was told not to close the blinds on the roof lights as heat builds up. Just close the flyscreen to get some shade.

 

[Speve]

You need impact adhesive but make sure you don‘t get it everywhere when using it that will give good adhesion and pretty much immediately clean up with a bit of white spirit afterwards.

 

[Cal54]

My sister had a similar issue in her van but admittedly it was a straight run on a door edge. We used PVA and bought a pack of small clamps which we used and left on overnight. So far it’s held ok.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[AndyPK]

Im with minxy id try hairdryer and a pair of soft gloves and see if it will push back into shape

Ooooooh, Matron!!!!

 

[62272]

Is it edging that has separated or is it the edges of some sort of vinyl/plastic wrapping/covering of the entire cupboard face and wrapped onto the edge?

If the former, I agree - re-edge using end banding.

If wrapping, i’d use a strong wood glue, very gently applied and clamped with a firm strip on if possible (if you can remove the doors?)

 

[Northernraider]

This unfortunately isn't edging trim , it's foil wrapped mdf . We used it a lot in the shopfitting company I worked for . It doesn't handle temperature change very well . And it goes hard and brittle. You may be able to warm it up and re glue it but when we had parts fail like that it usually required the whole sheet removed and redone.

 

[Northernraider]

Is it edging that has separated or is it the edges of some sort of vinyl/plastic wrapping/covering of the entire cupboard face and wrapped onto the edge?

If the former, I agree - re-edge using end banding.

If wrapping, i’d use a strong wood glue, very gently applied and clamped with a firm strip on if possible (if you can remove the doors?)

It's wrapping ...its applied warm when they are first manufactured. It's a pvc foil over mdf

 

[62272]

It's wrapping ...its applied warm when they are first manufactured. It's a pvc foil over mdf

In that case - definitely (IMHO) do NOT trim it to the edge to re-edge, otherwise in time the faces will peel. Although you could half cut it and stick new edging on so it retains the corners, but overlays half the old stuff and onto the bare wood/construction material (if that makes sense).

You can also get plastic edge trim which is slightly channelled and lips over the edges, if the extra minimal thickness does not interfere with the use of the doors.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Mr Librium]

It's wrapping ...its applied warm when they are first manufactured. It's a pvc foil over mdf

Spot on, that's exactly what it is, didn't know how to explain it!

 

[Northernraider]

In that case - definitely (IMHO) do NOT trim it to the edge to re-edge, otherwise in time the faces will peel. Although you could half cut it and stick new edging on so it retains the corners, but overlays half the old stuff and onto the bare wood/construction material (if that makes sense).

You can also get plastic edge trim which is slightly channelled and lips over the edges, if the extra minimal thickness does not interfere with the use of the doors.

I would definitely not cut it as its likely the whole sheet will lift over time.

Not the best material to use in a camper to be honest

 

[Northernraider]

Spot on, that's exactly what it is, didn't know how to explain it!

I wouldn't have expected it to be used in a camper to be honest. I'm assuming it's not a factory conversion.

We used it for shop fittings where they were indoors but with the variable temperature in a van cold in winter and very hot in summer it will shrink over time

 

[Mr Librium]

Thanks everyone, I might have a go with a hairdryer and contact adhesive as I have nothing to lose, but as Northern Raider has said I think they will need recovering or replacing to do the job properly.
I will report back when I have succeeded or failed!

 

[Mr Librium]

I wouldn't have expected it to be used in a camper to be honest. I'm assuming it's not a factory conversion.

We used it for shop fittings where they were indoors but with the variable temperature in a van cold in winter and very hot in summer it will shrink over time

To be fair, it's been fine for the last few years and it was only the direct 37 degrees of sunlight that has caused it.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}