Hispasat frequency for Oyster Vision 2

[dpsuk999]

Ive searched but can only find last thread was in 2020 so has anyone locked onto Hispasat recenty with a Oyster Vision 2 system and if so can you please advise the frequency settings please? I know bigtree and OldAgeTravellers normally post about this subject so hopefully they have had recent success.

TIA Dave

 

[Speve]

Ive searched but can only find last thread was in 2020 so has anyone locked onto Hispasat recenty with a Oyster Vision 2 system and if so can you please advise the frequency settings please? I know bigtree and OldAgeTravellers normally post about this subject so hopefully they have had recent success.

TIA Dave

Give Anthony OysterTech oystertech a shout he will know

 

[OldAgeTravellers]

Ive searched but can only find last thread was in 2020 so has anyone locked onto Hispasat recenty with a Oyster Vision 2 system and if so can you please advise the frequency settings please? I know bigtree and OldAgeTravellers normally post about this subject so hopefully they have had recent success.

TIA Dave

Sorry, we haven't used it since our last trip to Portugal which was before lockdown. Then the frequencies searchable with the Oyster were getting very few on the Hipasat Satelite. The Oyster can be upgraded but it is quite expensive and hardly worth it for the rubbish on TV at the moment. Especially when, with a cheap VPN, the channels can be viewed by streaming. I will probably have another look in the summer but it is far too cold to work in the Motorhome at the moment now we are back in the UK permanently.
Sorry I can't help.
Steve

 

[Anthony OysterTech]

Good afternoon dpsuk999

Bad news I'm afraid. Hispasat have now turned off all DVB-S transponders and moved everything to DVB-S2 which means that the Vision II systems can no longer see a reference point in order to lock on to Hispasat. I have received information from another customer who tells me that he has been locking on to Thor6 at 1W and then manually moving the system roughly 200 degrees right and then 55 degrees down (the degrees are based on what the Oyster control unit says) to locate Intelsat however I have not had the chance as of yet to try this.
The other option is to upgrade the electronics of the system with what we call the Vision Control centre upgrade. This will replace the existing electronic boxes in the vehicle and allow the system to lock directly onto Intelsat (as long as the skew angle has been altered) and will also give access to the Oyster app which you can use to control the system and perform updates. The new electronics also use a DVB-S2 tuner inside which will prevent any further problems should more Standard definition signals get turned off on any other satellites.
The cost for the Vision Control centre bundle is £350 inc VAT however this does not include carriage or labour should you prefer us to carry out the installation.

I hope this helps but should you require further information then please feel free to ask any questions either here, via private message or by contacting our office on 01858575928.

Also thanks to Speve for the tag.

 

[bigtwin]

Bad news I'm afraid. Hispasat have now turned off all DVB-S transponders and moved everything to DVB-S2 which means that the Vision II systems can no longer see a reference point in order to lock on to Hispasat.

Ahh, that will explain the difficulties I’ve been having. I was able to lock onto Hispasat upto 11 January in the Alicante region but subsequent to that (in the Benidorm region) I’ve had no success. I exchanged e-mails with Pat that confirmed my LNB was functioning correctly but we couldn’t get a lock onto Hispasat. In order that I can try the workaround using the Thor6 at 1W to lock on, can you confirm that this is the same as the Thor/Intel 10-02 showing on my control box?

Ian

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[dpsuk999]

Thanks for the update Anthony Anthony OysterTech. I think I’ll opt for the upgrade which will hopefully future proof me with it using DVB-S2. I’m technically minded so with this in mind do you think fitting it myself will be ok? I can give you a call or PM if that’s more suitable?

Thanks Dave

 

[Bessy765]

We have an Oyster Vision 3 with auto skew. Are we still able to find Intelsat as we have not been further south for a couple of years to have to use anything other than Astra?

 

[Anthony OysterTech]

Hi all,

I'll reply in stages as it means I don't have to write loads of messages.

bigtwin That's correct. Just bear in mind that I haven't personally tried this as someone here broke my test unit and we haven't had time to fix it just yet. I will get round to it but it's probably going to be Monday at the earliest until I can be more specific.

dpsuk999 Probably best to give me a call in the office. That way I can take the order and give you some pointers for installation at the same time. In case you need it the number is 01858575928.

Bessy765 The Vision III systems have DVB-S2 tuners (bar the very very early ones) so should carry on working without an issue. As long as your system can be set to lock on to Intelsat then you're fine. If it struggles to lock on then it could have out of date frequencies but just give us a call and we can check/update them with you over the phone.

 

[bigtwin]

@bigtwin That's correct. Just bear in mind that I haven't personally tried this as someone here broke my test unit and we haven't had time to fix it just yet. I will get round to it but it's probably going to be Monday at the earliest until I can be more specific.

Much obliged Anthony, I’ll have a bash at that tomorrow but can you confirm where I need to position the LNB? Same as for Hispasat?

Ian

 

[Anthony OysterTech]

Much obliged Anthony, I’ll have a bash at that tomorrow but can you confirm where I need to position the LNB? Same as for Hispasat?

Ian

It wont need to be as far round to lock to Thor but will once you move it. Again I'm not sure on the strength of the signal here in the UK. If it's a strong signal then set the LNB how you would for Hispasat but if it's weak then it's best to set it to 0 degrees until it's locked on. Then turn it to the Hispasat position and do the manual tune.

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[bigtwin]

It wont need to be as far round to lock to Thor but will once you move it.

I’m not sure what you mean by the above. Are you saying that the LNB may only need to be moved to the 6 o’clock (ish) position?

Again I'm not sure on the strength of the signal here in the UK.

I’m currently in Spain so not sure if that would give me a stronger, or weaker, signal.

If it's a strong signal then set the LNB how you would for Hispasat but if it's weak then it's best to set it to 0 degrees until it's locked on

Is 0 degrees 6 o’clock (1800hrs) position, or mid-day position (presumably not).

Then turn it to the Hispasat position and do the manual tune.

I’m good with this bit.

Thanks again.

Ian

 

[Bessy765]

Hi all,

I'll reply in stages as it means I don't have to write loads of messages.

bigtwin That's correct. Just bear in mind that I haven't personally tried this as someone here broke my test unit and we haven't had time to fix it just yet. I will get round to it but it's probably going to be Monday at the earliest until I can be more specific.

dpsuk999 Probably best to give me a call in the office. That way I can take the order and give you some pointers for installation at the same time. In case you need it the number is 01858575928.

Bessy765 The Vision III systems have DVB-S2 tuners (bar the very very early ones) so should carry on working without an issue. As long as your system can be set to lock on to Intelsat then you're fine. If it struggles to lock on then it could have out of date frequencies but just give us a call and we can check/update them with you over the phone.

Many thanks for your reply AnthonySat Tec to rescue again

 

[bigtree]

Ive searched but can only find last thread was in 2020 so has anyone locked onto Hispasat recenty with a Oyster Vision 2 system and if so can you please advise the frequency settings please? I know bigtree and OldAgeTravellers normally post about this subject so hopefully they have had recent success.

TIA Dave

Sadly not, I tried when we were at Calpe last year with new info and it didn’t find Hispasat. I just limited our data use for our firestick.

 

[Satandpcguy]

Hispasat is still available in Spain. In fact it was used for one of the two Spanish satellite companies in Spain, before they merged, and recently moved everything to Astra 19 instead - why have the smae service on two different satellites!

Hispasat 30W-4/30W-5 at 30.0°W - LyngSat

looks like hardly anything left for europe on there, apart from a lot of spanish radio stations

 

[dpsuk999]

I’m currently in Portugal and had a go at Anthony’s suggestion Anthony OysterTech to lock onto Thor, it locked on within 2 minutes and pointed the correct way according to my app:

I then manually adjusted it right to 200 (as shown on oyster display) but the dish was pointing in the completely wrong direction (approx 1100 on the clock face) but Intelsat is approx 2000):

So I don’t think that idea works but maybe I’m doing it wrong

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[bigtwin]

Did you try rotating 200 in the opposite direction?

Ian

 

[bigtwin]

Ahh, just re read your post. If I’ve understood it correctly I thought that the instructions were to move it 200 degrees FROM its current position, not TO a display reading of 200 as the latter is dependent on where your van is positioned.

Ian

 

[dpsuk999]

When I tried in the opposite way it reached its limit so I’m going to give it another go this morning
My understanding is to lock onto Thor then rotate so the oyster display says 200° but this took the dish to the completely wrong direction. Locking onto Thor will give the dish its starting point to then locate Intelsat.

I’ll have another play this morning

 

[bigtwin]

My understanding is to lock onto Thor then rotate so the oyster display says 200°

That’s not how I interpret the instruction; I interpret it as moving 200 degs from the display indication showing for the Thor satellite.

Mine’s struggling to find Thor at the moment so can’t test it one way or the other.

Ian

 

[dpsuk999]

Got it working

So this is my set up. Oyster Vision II with a twin LNB with a skew of approx 1900 on the clock face, used for Astra 2 (sky) (left LNB) and another twin LNB with a skew of approx 1700 (on the clock face) (right LNB) connected through a DiSEqC switch.

I use an Icecrypt S1600CHD box to mess about and find satellites. So using the Oyster Vision panel I locked onto Astra2 as this uses the left LNB. As you can see from the picture below under DiSEqC heading it’s using 1/4 so the left LNB.

I then chose Thor Satellite on my Icecrypt box which because the DiSEqC is set to 2/4 and I’ve set the Oyster Vision SAT Position 2 to Thor it switches to the right LNB and then locks onto Thor:

Now taking into account my location, using the app Dish Align I got the relevant elevation and azimuth for both Thor and Intelsat:
Thor Elevation 46.16 Azimuth 166.99
Intelsat Elevation 42.65 Azimuth 209.39

I then chose Intelsat on my Icecrypt (DiSEqC 2/4 still) then on the Oyster control panel I went into Manual Search and went right approx 42° (difference between 209 and 166) and went down approx 4° (difference between 46 and 42) and with a bit of messing between the degrees the signal came :

And now I have all the channels:

Hope the above makes sense

Dave

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[bigtwin]

dpsuk999, I just used your method (but locking onto Astra 2 first and manually changing the LNB position) and have found Intelsat 907 picking up all my channels!
Thanks for your tutorial.

The one thing that I’m not clear about is the translation of the LNB polarisation (in degrees) to clock face position.

Ian

 

[dpsuk999]

Thats good bigtwin and nor am I clear about the LNB polarisation but for a reference if its a positive its in the 1200 to 1800 half and if its negative then its in the 1800 to 0000 half or thats how I see it so for example where iam Intelsat says 23.04 and Astra says -38.46 so Intelsat 1700 and Astra 2000

 

[bigtwin]

for a reference if its a positive its in the 1200 to 1800 half and if its negative then its in the 1800 to 0000 half or thats how I see it so for example where iam Intelsat says 23.04 and Astra says -38.46 so Intelsat 1700 and Astra 2000

Useful info.

I guess it must be degrees either side of 1800.

Ian

 

[dpsuk999]

I’m sure there is a more scientific way but it’s the way I work it

 

[Ditcha]

I used to do this method but had to go through the same drill when ever you put the dish down or move bit of a pita, I bit the bullet and bought the upto date command box which was under 400€ now works from app on phone updates automatically and works great here in Spain, simple swop out with the old box.
Sold my old box on eBay for £250 so not a bad upgrade.

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[Anthony OysterTech]

Hi all,

Sorry, had a busy one this morning so only just had time to come online and see all the posts.
Is everyone got their heads round the new positioning now or am I still needed?

 

[bigtwin]

Hi all,

Sorry, had a busy one this morning so only just had time to come online and see all the posts.
Is everyone got their heads round the new positioning now or am I still needed?

I’m all good but will probably get fed of the faff and end up going for the upgrade. Be in touch in due course.

Ian

 

[dpsuk999]

Hi Anthony OysterTech ill be going for the upgrade too. I’ll give you a call probably tomorrow morning now as just out at the beach

 

[elamessa]

Anthony OysterTech
You have a pm.