Has your dog been declined entry to France on French E.U. pet passport??

[Peg Star]

I have just been in correspondence with a French vet about doing a rabies booster jab for Fido. Our French passport was issued in 2019 so pre Brexit, this was due to our own vet making a mistake on the UK passport so during the wormer / health check prior to returning home the French vet thought it prudent to issue us with a French passport with the correct details on in the hope we would not have issues getting back into the UK. We will be due for a rabies booster in June but thought we'd get it sorted sooner rather than later so have been researching the 3 year booster etc and other Funsters have been kind enough to give me recommendations for vets in the area we will be in. Now the first vet I have contacted said whilst they could give the 3 year booster as long as prior to expiry of date of the previous one they also said this:
"But you might have an other problem: since brexit, an English dog can't have a French passeport if he doesn't remain for at least 3 months in France and he has to be registered in ICAD, our database for identity registration. So at customs check they probably will ask you to change the French passeport in a UK passeport."
The only reports in press I've seen about people being declined entry with the French documents is if the application/reading of the microchip date was after the rabies jab or the last recorded rabies jab on the passport was issued by a UK vet - this could be a stumbling block as our vet copied over the rabies vaccination into the French passport on our return to the UK back in 2019 - she took all the paperwork from me, issued a correct UK passport and when I got the French one back she had also put the rabies vaccination details into that one. Whilst my belief was that as long as no entries had been made by a UK vet after January 2021 then those entries were valid..... am I wrong?
I am really interested to know if people have or have not had any problems getting their pet into France with a French passport that shows a UK address and dog not registered on their ICAD system?
I apologies if this subject appears to have been discussed to death !!!!

 

[maz]

I am really interested to know if people have or have not had any problems getting their pet into France with a French passport that shows a UK address and dog not registered on their ICAD system?

I got a French Pet Passport for my dog in March with a UK address and no ICAD registration. I used it in September to enter France via Eurotunnel with no problems.

It sounds like the vet is confusing the issuing of French Pet Passports with their actual use. For whatever reason, France seems to have decided to tie in the issuing of Pet Passports with their national pet ID database, which makes it more difficult for Brits to obtain them. However, there are still vets in France who will issue them - you just have to be prepared to do a bit of phoning around. Once you actually have a French (or other EU country) Pet Passport there is no problem in using it, provided it has been completed correctly. Border controls are not remotely interested in the imagined ‘nationality’ of the dog; in fact there is no such concept as dog nationality. There is no EU-wide requirement for an EU address in order to issue a Pet Passport, but individual countries are free to attach their own particular requirements if they wish.

 

[Peg Star]

Thank you maz I was hoping you'd see this and as usual offered reassuring advice. I thought the same in that it seemed more likely the vet was talking about a new passport whereas we just need the rabies booster on an existing one. I think we'll just go for it as at the end of the day if she's denied entry into France we can come home it's when its the other way round its an issue - if get it done before rabies expires then both EU and UK passport will be valid to get her home. Happy days thank you.

 

[Ditcha]

I wouldn't bother trying to get a French pet passport they change requirements as they go along and seem to be the only EU state who does wonder why?
I know this doesn't answer your question but we just had 2x pet passport done in Spain then they can't argue I also payed the extra 15€ to have the dogs registered on RIVIA just in case registration becomes a issue further down the line.

 

[Landy Andy]

French pet passport they change requirements as they go along

When? What?

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[Ditcha]

When? What?

See #1 clear as mud

 

[Spara4042]

I wouldn't bother trying to get a French pet passport they change requirements as they go along and seem to be the only EU state who does wonder why?
I know this doesn't answer your question but we just had 2x pet passport done in Spain then they can't argue I also payed the extra 15€ to have the dogs registered on RIVIA just in case registration becomes a issue further down the line.

Where did you get your pet passports? Heading to Spain soon & thinking of doing the same for our dog.

 

[Figaro]

Frenchies trying to make life difficult for UK citizens at the direction of Emmanuel Macron ? Surely not

 

[Ditcha]

Where did you get your pet passports? Heading to Spain soon & thinking of doing the same for our dog.

It's in this thread

Post in thread 'Best Price for AHC?' https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/best-price-for-ahc.257326/post-4892989

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

Got my 2 pups passports in Belgium last October cheap and quickly sorted.

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[Minxy]

As far as I am aware the situation now is that as your EU pet passport was issued pre-Brexit and the UK vets were at that time recognised as being official it shouldn't affect you now using it in the future and carrying on doing so. All you need is to get the jab done before it runs out and the EU vet to enter it into the passport, no need for a replacement.

 

[Peg Star]

I wouldn't bother trying to get a French pet passport they change requirements as they go along and seem to be the only EU state who does wonder why?

To be honest if we hadn't already got a French one I would agree and more likely to go elsewhere to get one.

Looks like we will still have to get an AHC to get over to France as our 'date of reading the microchip' in the French one is 23/08/2019 and date of rabies vaccination is 12/06/2019. I should imagine for those people that have said they have managed to get an EU vet to issue a new EU passport by transferring the details over (I remember reading some managed it whilst some didn't) the vet must have also copied over the date the microchip was either implanted or read from the UK passport otherwise they will have the same issue as us?!

This was taken from Eurotunnel website.
When the vet is completing your pet’s official travel documents (AHC or EU Pet Passport), make sure the date of implantation or date of reading of the microchip is the same date as, or before, the rabies vaccination.

Our old UK passport shows 'date of reading' as same date as rabies vaccination so presumably the vet would take this information for the AHC otherwise the dates would still be wrong! As ours was a rescue we don't know when the microchip was implanted only when it was changed to us - however just out of interest I have been on the Petlog website and requested a 'PDF for pet passport' see what that says....

This may have been common knowledge that somehow I had overlooked but I have only just become aware of this stipulation in the documentation.

 

[Landy Andy]

sorry easily confused here.

But as I read it, this is only an issue IF you had rabies jab details carried over. If you got new EU PP and rabies jab at same time all is good.

 

[Peg Star]

Yes for a new PP the ID is read and vaccine date is the same so that’s fine