Has the base price of vehicles just gone up again, in addition to January increases?? (1 Viewer)

[G1969]

Hello,

I am looking to buy a new Cathago, and have noticed on their website, they appear to have increased the base vehicle prices ( both fiat and Mercedes)since I looked last week, circa 2.5k. If this is correct, seems to be a stealth move and is it just Cathago?
Anyone else noticed this?

 

[wiljoy]

Base van prices have once again increased dramatically so chassis cabs will have also increased. Getting rather pricey for new vans

 

[Tony50]

Base van prices have once again increased dramatically so chassis cabs will have also increased. Getting rather pricey for new vans

The money we paid in 2009 for a A class Rapido on a Merc with a auto box wouldn't buy the Auto Sleeper we have on order today.

 

[Verteuil Man]

In a seller's market, nowt goes down.

 

[CAB96]

The money we paid in 2009 for a A class Rapido on a Merc with a auto box wouldn't buy the Auto Sleeper we have on order today.

What is the extra once you account for inflation? The BoE calculator shows 46% since 2009.

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[Lenny HB]

The Carthago we ordered in September when I looked a couple of weeks ago it had gone up £2700, just looked again now up by £4660. Good job I got a fixed price deal.

 

[Lenny HB]

What is the extra once you account for inflation? The BoE calculator shows 46% since 2009.

I would say Hymer & Carthago around 80 - 90% up on 2009 prices.

 

[ontheroadagain]

Our first motorhome (Elddis Accordo) cost £39k in 2016. According to the Bank of England inflation calculator, the cost now should be £49k. The same dealer we bought ours from has a new one advertised for £69k!!! Some one is making a lot of money out of the current situation. Surely it must end soon?

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[G1969]

Just ordered ours, managed to get a discount, and free Habitational checks, but no fixed price, so we'll see what happens over the next 6 months!!

 

[CazPaul]

I would say Hymer & Carthago around 80 - 90% up on 2009 prices.

I’ve just looked at our brand, our 2005 Concorde would cost another 70 pence in 2023.
Robbing bleeders

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[Deadloss]

Also noticed that the Carthago options list is not available for download at the moment, so I wonder whether these are being updated (and thus increased) as well.

 

[gradyp]

Bought our Elddis 155 22 months ago for £52K , at the NEC the other week the same van is now £74K ,, That is an increase of £1000 per month for 22 months, Disgusting

I spoke to the salesman and I said people are not going to pay these type of prices , if they go up any more the motorhome industry will just become stagnant as people keep hold of there current vans ,, he looked at me a smiled and said he has sold this years vans plus most of next years at these prices.

I'll not change the van at these prices I think I'd rather go on package holidays and cruises rather than tie up almost £100k in a van

 

[Lenny HB]

Also noticed that the Carthago options list is not available for download at the moment, so I wonder whether these are being updated (and thus increased) as well.

Thats what me thinks, prices on it were the same as last year a couple of weeks ago.

 

[ontheroadagain]

Bought our Elddis 155 22 months ago for £52K , at the NEC the other week the same van is now £74K ,, That is an increase of £1000 per month for 22 months, Disgusting

I spoke to the salesman and I said people are not going to pay these type of prices , if they go up any more the motorhome industry will just become stagnant as people keep hold of there current vans ,, he looked at me a smiled and said he has sold this years vans plus most of next years at these prices.

I'll not change the van at these prices I think I'd rather go on package holidays and cruises rather than tie up almost £100k in a van

The bubble will burst. Perhaps not for another year or 18 months but it will happen.
I remember when we first started looking for motorhomes in 2015/2016 it was possible to get a good discount on unsold stock at the end of the season. Every industry has its highs and lows it just so happens that Covid and supply issues have created a prolonged high.
I agree fully. If you don't have a motorhome to trade in, are you really going to spend £100K on a leisure vehicle?
I don't know many people that would be in a financial position to do that.

 

[Wissel]

It's not just the base vehicles, some of the increases in components are scary.

Windows that were £200 3 years ago now over £400. The lightweight ply I use, £32 per board 3 years ago - just bought a load @£84 per board.

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[Lenny HB]

Bought our Elddis 155 22 months ago for £52K , at the NEC the other week the same van is now £74K ,, That is an increase of £1000 per month for 22 months, Disgusting

I spoke to the salesman and I said people are not going to pay these type of prices , if they go up any more the motorhome industry will just become stagnant as people keep hold of there current vans ,, he looked at me a smiled and said he has sold this years vans plus most of next years at these prices.

I'll not change the van at these prices I think I'd rather go on package holidays and cruises rather than tie up almost £100k in a van

On the other hand they are turning out to be quite a good investment. We didn't really want to spend over £100k on a new van but we wanted a new one and something of better quality so no choice either pay or go without.
Would rather spend the money on a Motorhome than a stupid EV car, happy to run about in my old car and have a new Motorhome. A lot of people say I won't spend £100k on a Motorhome but they are running about in a £40k or £50k car.

 

[TheMachMan]

On the other hand they are turning out to be quite a good investment. We didn't really want to spend over £100k on a new van but we wanted a new one and something of better quality so no choice either pay or go without.
Would rather spend the money on a Motorhome than a stupid EV car, happy to run about in my old car and have a new Motorhome. A lot of people say I won't spend £100k on a Motorhome but they are running about in a £40k or £50k car.

Is it really a good investment though? If you sell it and don’t replace it, perhaps, but only if it increases in value.
As it stands we wouldn’t buy another new van as they have got silly. Even though ours will not have depreciated the gap to upgrade has widened too much.

 

[Lenny HB]

Is it really a good investment though? If you sell it and don’t replace it, perhaps, but only if it increases in value.
As it stands we wouldn’t buy another new van as they have got silly. Even though ours will not have depreciated the gap to upgrade has widened too much.

On our current van we are getting more as a trade in than we paid for it 6 years ago and previous vans have lost very little compared with what you could have lost on cars over the years.
Agree the gap to change is still quite big & it doesn't stop there by the time you have spent a fortune upgrading it after getting it on the road, it's getting quite expensive.

 

[G1969]

Our van is 14y old, and is worth 50% of the value we paid, which is not a bad depreciation rate. My question is will our newly ordered van be the same? if so I am happy paying the new price, as it is all proportional. Yes the cost to change is large, as its a big step in quality, but this will only increase
But also my view is enjoy now as tomorrow is not guaranteed, and following a near miss health scare why not!

 

[funflair]

Prices are only going one way for sure, when I saw the new prices of 4 stock vans that our Morelo dealer had in I commented that he might struggle to sell them, well how wrong was I as only one left now and that's the cheapest a similar van to ours but lesser spec is up for a big chunk more than we paid three years ago.

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[gus-lopez]

but the question has to be asked ,Why? Nothing supports increases on this scale.

 

[Monty don]

As long as we buy they will continue to rip us off. Thats retailers and manufactures.
Its a joke but it will end. And in tears
GB

 

[BusyBuilder]

If what I just saw on TV, Covid loans could be behind some sales ?

My accountant told me he had a friend who got a £50k loan/grant and bought a new car.

But everything is going up in price, we just have to suck it up or say no. I'm keeping my 2012 model Hymer, I could afford new but whats the point ? I'm very happy with what we have and could sell it tomorrow for the same as we paid 5 years ago.

 

[Monty don]

The covid loans 50K a pop plus all the other ridiculous printing money has created this inflation that will kill us.
Its basic economics not rocket science.
Lots of people out there shut down Limited Co and the loans die with them.
I know of people with multiple companies all had 50k

It will all end. It always does

GB

 

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[funflair]

but the question has to be asked ,Why? Nothing supports increases on this scale.

A bit of all sorts really, supply and demand has meant that they don't need to offer any discounts to sell what they have, the £ doesn't buy as many € as it did three years ago, then of course the prices rise by an inflation figure every year and it all adds up.

 

[Tony50]

What is the extra once you account for inflation? The BoE calculator shows 46% since 2009.

Wow !

 

[Tony50]

Anyone know how motorhome sales went at February's NEC show, I got the feeling sales are going to be lowish

 

[CAB96]

Wow !

Puts things into perspective doesn't it! Even so, the past year or so has been extraordinary for base vehicle prices.

 

[Spriddler]

In light of the reports that due to the Covid disturbance to 'normal' life many people have taken stock of their work/life balance and retired early. Maybe they've bought motor homes to follow the dream, perhaps by drawing down a lump sum from their pension pots.

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