Hardstanding Pitches

geordie graham

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So I have the new awning and have been told that because it hasn`t got a breathable groundsheet it will have to be put up on a hardstanding pitch,which is fine.I am then told that I would then need rock pegs ( screw in ones preferably ) still fine,and then read about a lot of people saying that the hardstanding pitches are so hard that they can`t even get the pegs in. So to recap, you are told by the site you have to put up your awning on a hardstanding pitch that is so hard you cannot get the pegs in therefore unable to use your awning and yet people are still paying for these facilities. Really ?

Graham
 

sean n maggie

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get the rock pegs you can put in with a hammer,,,a big hammer if needed,,,not the screw in type...then you wont have a problem,,,,,(y)
 

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get the rock pegs you can put in with a hammer,,,a big hammer if needed,,,not the screw in type...then you wont have a problem,,,,,(y)
And/or a breathable ground sheet, nicer underfoot(y)
 

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or no groundsheet at all and you can pitch on grass like a caravan awning does. breathable sheets are nice and soft under bare feet, but I prefer grass
 
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I agree with above, don't bother with screw in gizmos, but do invest in a lump hammer and rock pegs

or leave groundsheet out, unless it is fixed of course

and while we are talking hard standing, all that effort why cant they make them level, we nearly always still need levelling blocks
 
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So I have the new awning and have been told that because it hasn`t got a breathable groundsheet it will have to be put up on a hardstanding pitch,which is fine.I am then told that I would then need rock pegs ( screw in ones preferably ) still fine,and then read about a lot of people saying that the hardstanding pitches are so hard that they can`t even get the pegs in. So to recap, you are told by the site you have to put up your awning on a hardstanding pitch that is so hard you cannot get the pegs in therefore unable to use your awning and yet people are still paying for these facilities. Really ?

Graham
Use a Hilti Gun - jobs a good un :roflmto::roflmto:
 
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I usually use a drill and a long masonry bit to drill a pilot hole for the pegs.
When the twat's pull that one works every time get sum werd looks but you have payed for it use it I say
 

TheBig1

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Or - The brackets should come with the awning. View attachment 39047
great but thats a canopy, not an awning with/without groundsheet

Have seen more than one van sidewall seriously damaged by using those clips and the wind catching the canopy like a sail. seen a few flip back over the roof too in a stiff breeze doing very serious damage. one i witnessed, a pregnant woman got injured grabbing hold and trying to stop it.......ALWAYS put straps on the corners when putting out the canopy if there is any chance of the wind getting up
 
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geordie graham

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Great input as usual,thanks folks. The reason I brought this subject up is because I am disabled and unable to do a lot of things,and although my amazing wife is very strong mentally ( she has had to be to put up with all my unforeseen problems ) she is not very strong physically which is why we have bought a Vango airbeam which she tried in the back garden and she can manage that,but has sown in non breathable groundsheet.What happens if we are told to put it up on a hardstanding pitch which is so hard she can`t get the pegs in.Can we go back to the site office and explain that the pitch is totally unfit for purpose and can they find a pitch which is suitable or can we have our money back and try and find a site that does have suitable pitches.

Graham
 

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I can only suggest explain you are disabled and will only stay in one grass pitch for say 3 days. The reason they don't want ordinary groundsheets on grass is they turn the grass yellow after a few days, but if your stay is short or if longer you are prepared to move to a different pitch every few days I don't see why they should have a problem. Alternatively, get some big straight metal pegs and a big hammer and ask the warden to knock them in for you on a hard standing pitch. You may have better luck with clubs like the CC or CC&C as they wouldn't want to get a reputation for being difficult for disabled visitors. Worth trying to contact their head office(s) and ask them to make arrangements.
 

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Or - The brackets should come with the awning. View attachment 39047
I don't want to worry you but the brackets on the side of your MH do look rather high ... if I had your MH I wouldn't want to have the awning wound out that far due to the angle it creates when using the brackets as it must put a heck of a strain on them!
 

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You @ Killin ???
Aye that wis Jessie, the better half and cleo (our wee cat, that's why the fly screen was closed) in Killin, a few weeks ago now enroute North, we did the top two corners J o' Gs and Cape Wrath.
I don't want to worry you but the brackets on the side of your MH do look rather high ... if I had your MH I wouldn't want to have the awning wound out that far due to the angle it creates when using the brackets as it must put a heck of a strain on them!
I know what you mean, that really was my only option on that van. As you say I am aware of the geometry and stress points. There wasn't a puff of a breeze and it was just to take a bit of the sun off the side of the van. When I took the photo the sun was set and I was just about to take it all down for moving in morning but I wanted photo with my new windbreak set up(that was just for privacy ! Sad ain't I. :rolleyes:
 

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Can the current groundsheet be cut out without damaging the structure and strength of the rest of the awning?
 
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