Greater Manchester low emissions zone, affects most pre 2016 Motorhomes from May 2023

[Wack]

For those that aren't aware the Manchester low emission zone is going to be the biggest in the country affecting trucks and buses from May 2022 and all other diesel commercial vehicles except Euro 6 from May 2023.

It's massive

I was quite surprised to see this will include motorhomes

What this means is if you leave a motorway or major trunk road in the greater manchester area you get pinged on the ANPR for a £10 fee, no notification, it's up to you to pay it , if it's the same as Runcorn bridge and it's not paid by midnight the following day it goes to a fine, they're saying £120 reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days.

It's so easy to drive over the bridge and completely forget to pay the £2 fee , a system that worked well for them generating £6.6m in fines in 9 months


A whopping £6.6m in revenue was generated from Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs) issued between the opening of the Mersey Gateway Bridge in October to June this year.

According to Merseyflow’s own figures, 549,000 PCNs were issued between October 2017 and June 2018.

Each PCN is £20 for each single crossing plus the £2 tariff. So if a commuter has crossed both ways to and from work and not paid the toll by midnight the next day they are liable to pay £44.


I'm expecting this to be based on the same model, forget to pay and it's £60 when you get the letter, £120 if you're away from home for more than 2 weeks

So if I stay for one night in my euro 5 motorhome at a campsite in the greater manchester area it's £10 to drive in and £10 to drive out , the guy next to me in a 4.2L Range rover towing a caravan travels for free

This is as clear as mud , my V5C just reads Motor Caravan, section J is blank , No M1 or N1 and the online checker under vehicle type approval just reads 'not available'

 

[roncab]

It does say trucks and buses and other commercial vehicles it dosent state motorhomes

 

[Wack]

motorhomes are chargeable

 

[EuroTrotters]

I would be interested to learn how much a Euro III 4 ton would be ?

 

[Wack]

£10 if it's registered as a private HGV

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[On the road again]

I'm trapped. MH stored inside the zone and I live within it.

Paying to leave Manchester, paying to come home. Paying to fill up, paying to go for a service.

 

[Wack]

We can only hope they see sense , unless you've got 40k to spend your MH is unlikely to be euro 6 so this will affect a lot of people in greater manchester let alone the business the campsites are likely to lose.

 

[mitzimad]

were 250 yards inside the ulez that takes affect in october

 

[pagey]

were 250 yards inside the ulez that takes affect in october

i am outside the ulez but my doctor is 200 mtrs inside luckily the car and the van are euro6 but buying a 2015 vw transporter is now a not on

 

[LesW]

So presumably the £6.6 million raised was spent on air purifying machines..

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[busbuddy]

Is it just me or does that map make it look like a section of the m6 is in the LEZ

 

[glenn2926]

Not exactly encouraging visitors are they?

 

[Wack]

We're at Burr's country park in bury at the moment , it's really nice , there's a stop for the east Lanc's railway right next to the site

From May 2023 it'll cost you £20 for one night and £10 for every day you take your non euro 6 motorhome off site if you stay for longer than one night

Of course it's going to cost them business and totally unfair as none of the towed caravans will be paying anything regardless of emissions

It's outrageous motorhomes are included

 

[glenn2926]

We're at Burr's country park in bury at the moment , it's really nice , there's a stop for the east Lanc's railway right next to the site
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From May 2023 it'll cost you £20 for one night and £10 for every day you take your non euro 6 motorhome off site if you stay for longer than one night

Of course it's going to cost them business and totally unfair as none of the towed caravans will be paying anything regardless of emissions

It's outrageous motorhomes are included

Another place we won’t be going then.

 

[Wack]

20 months to get here though

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[WESTY66]

Forgive me for being thick but I would go through that via motorways to say Chester, N Wales etc. Do you have to pay it if you travel through ON the motorways M67,M60, M56 etc?

 

[Neil S]

Forgive me for being thick but I would go through that via motorways to say Chester, N Wales etc. Do you have to pay it if you travel through ON the motorways M67,M60, M56 etc?

motorways are exempt as they come under highways england

 

[Wack]

No it's reads motorways and major trunk roads aren't in the lez
Whether you'll get pinged if you come up the sliproad round the roundabout and back on the motorway I don't know

Also no more WAZE diversions if the motorway is blocked unless you're happy paying £10

 

[WESTY66]

I suppose if the Greater Manchester authorities need a bit of cash they could always come up with a plan to block the motorway and divert people off it so they can generate a bit of

 

[On the road again]

I suppose if the Greater Manchester authorities need a bit of cash they could always come up with a plan to block the motorway and divert people off it so they can generate a bit of

I wouldn't put that past Burnham

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[Neil S]

No it's reads motorways and major trunk roads aren't in the lez
Whether you'll get pinged if you come up the sliproad round the roundabout and back on the motorway I don't know

Also no more WAZE diversions if the motorway is blocked unless you're happy paying £10

this has happened before when motorists were diverted of the M25 into the LEZ because of a major accident and ended up getting fines because their vehicles were non compliant
Bet the same will happen if you stray into the proposed LEZ in Greater Manchester with a non compliant vehicle even if it’s not your fault

 

[RustyRuss]

We have a 2012 Ducato chassised AutoTrail, will we be compliant or liable for a charge? If we want to go to the Lake District (live in Runcorn) will we have to take a huge diesel consuming, unfriendly to the environment, detour to avoid the ULEZ?

Cheers,

Russ

 

[RustyRuss]

Do they really want me to scrap my 2 classic MX5's and Morris Minor too? Barstewards!!

Russ

 

[WESTY66]

Do they really want me to scrap my 2 classic MX5's and Morris Minor too? Barstewards!!

Russ

No they just want your money, apparently every time you pay, all the bad stuff goes away and the air is clean

 

[gus-lopez]

We can only hope they see sense

I doubt it.

this will affect a lot of people in greater manchester let alone the business the campsites are likely to lose.

at least people know well in advance. In london the proposal for intoduction of ulez was all done through TFL , Transport for London.. If you weren't a registered member you didn't recieve direct information.
On many forums I & many others tried to warn locals of what was proposed, but no one showed much interest. Ulez was voted on by members of TFL only. 52/48% vote for its introduction.**No surprise there then as most members are either pedestrians of cyclists. So a massive less than 40,000 voters introduced a system affecting 9 million people.
Shortly before introduction when the press started pointing out the £12,50/day charge did the locals start complaining but by then they had been tucked up & shafted by the 5th columnist.

Why do I know all this ? Because as a foreigner I am required to register to travel in the LEZ & Ulez . Therefore I am a registered member, get full information& had the right to vote & did. against.
It is disgusting how politicians can scam the population like this & unbelieveable that the UK public put up with it.


** On the basis of the vote Khan took it upon himself to modify the LEZ emissions & who can enter on the grounds that " Those who want the ulez implemented would agree with these proposals.
No vote, no discussion.

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[Neil S]

We have a 2012 Ducato chassised AutoTrail, will we be compliant or liable for a charge? If we want to go to the Lake District (live in Runcorn) will we have to take a huge diesel consuming, unfriendly to the environment, detour to avoid the ULEZ?

Cheers,

Russ

No motorways are exempted as they fall under the powers of Highways England so jump on the motorway at Runcorn M56 and M6 and you’ll be ok

 

[EuroTrotters]

£10 if it's registered as a private HGV

If it’s the same as bath. It will be £100 to get from my house to the motorway .

It is 1 mile

 

[nicholsong]

If it’s the same as bath. It will be £100 to get from my house to the motorway .

It is 1 mile

It is ridiculous that where you are, Cheadle and Hale are in the Zone.

Are they going to charge the aircraft landing at Ringway, Woodford and Barton? Or only when they are taxiing on the 'roads'(taxiways)?

Geoff

 

[Wack]

It is ridiculous that where you are, Cheadle and Hale are in the Zone.

Are they going to charge the aircraft landing at Ringway, Woodford and Barton? Or only when they are taxiing on the 'roads'(taxiways)?

Geoff

We went to the Burr's country park site for a night on thursday , from may 2023 that'd cost me an extra £20 over the site fees , coming back the M60 was nose to tail for miles on Friday evening, none of that will be in the charging zone though, millions of vehicles a week

This is 100% about money not emissions

 

[Wack]

Do they really want me to scrap my 2 classic MX5's and Morris Minor too? Barstewards!!

Russ

It's only diesel commercials at the moment , no cars regardless of emissions

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