Gaslow - how does it work? (1 Viewer)

[Lenny HB]

don't have c remote ,

but do have the Gaslow auto changeover head at £57 .. d

That's only a changeover don't you still need a regulator.
Last 2 vans we have coughed up for the Hymer option which includes the C-Remote and regulator heater €300 but convenient.

 

[scotjimland]

That's only a changeover don't you still need a regulator.
Last 2 vans we have coughed up for the Hymer option which includes the C-Remote and regulator heater €300 but convenient.

I fitted the Clesse regulator and the auto changeover head .. but to be frank..regret fitting it, prefer to change over manually then you know that one bottle has run out.. so I now keep one bottle isolated until the gas runs out in the other .. then refill as soon as convenient. On auto I run the risk of emptying both bottles, that would be an inconvenience I don't need.

 

[Ex-caravantugger]

Ive not checked to be honest so this may be rubbish
But when i was looking into it i think the dispensing pressure was something in the reigon of 100psi above tank vapour pressure...which can vary quite a bit depending on temperature...
Again i dont know or remember the max pressure for my regulator but taking yours as an eg ie 230psi then i suppose on a hot day with a tank temperature of around 27degrees C that figure could be reached...
And of course the advice is to shut the cylinders... its just i have never bothered....
Im sure my regulator was around £40 and i thought that was pricey
Andy.

100 psi is roughly 7bar. My Cavagna regulator can withstand an input of 20bar so should be ok. Please check my calculations. Mike

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[Ex-caravantugger]

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[andy63]

100 bar is roughly 7bar. My Cavagna regulator can withstand an input of 20bar so should be ok. Please check my calculations. Mike

Hi mike.. yea ive still not really looked into it since fitting my system, but have never shut my tank outlet when refilling ... from memory it was not likely to damage the regulator but i accept best practice says you should isolate the regulator from filling pressure...
With the best intentions a lot of folk will forget to anyway...
Dont know if you have time to edit but your 100 is obviously psi and not bar...
Andy..

 

[kickstart]

Clesse regulator from Gaslow is £36.50 ..

I asked Gaslow about closing bottle valves when filling..

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Hi James

Thank you for your enquiry, you should always turn of the outlet from the cylinders when refilling, otherwise the pressure on the regulator increases and can damage it while filling. Also if its not turned off, you can risk getting liquid gas into the regulator.

Regards

Jacquie

Well I never, have had gaslow about eight years now and never realised it should be turned off when refilling, I have two large bottles and always have them both turned on, better change my ways.

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[scotjimland]

Well I never, have had gaslow about eight years now and never realised it should be turned off when refilling, I have two large bottles and always have them both turned on, better change my ways.

why the sarcasm..?

The OP asked for filling advice, the safe filling advice is from Gaslow, who know a thing or two about refilling bottles..

Gasit also give the same advice.. http://www.gasit.co.uk/support/knowledgebase.php?article=3

 

[Cavs]

Interesting: on the one hand we are encouraged to fit the Gaslow filling nozzle on the outside of the van so we don't have to open the locker door when refilling (and thus be forbidden from filling by the service station); on the other hand we are told we have to open the gas locker door to turn off the bottles in order to fill (and thus run the risk of being forbidden from filling by the service station).

Alternatively, we could could stop before the filling station, open the locker, turn off the bottles, drive to the station, fill without opening the locker door, drive round the corner, stop, open the locker, turn on the bottles and continue with the journey.

 

[nicholsong]

Interesting: on the one hand we are encouraged to fit the Gaslow filling nozzle on the outside of the van so we don't have to open the locker door when refilling (and thus be forbidden from filling by the service station); on the other hand we are told we have to open the gas locker door to turn off the bottles in order to fill (and thus run the risk of being forbidden from filling by the service station).

Alternatively, we could could stop before the filling station, open the locker, turn off the bottles, drive to the station, fill without opening the locker door, drive round the corner, stop, open the locker, turn on the bottles and continue with the journey.

Or as I wrote previously

'We drive with our bottles off, so they are already off when we reach the pump.'

Also saves a lot of discussion on forums

Geoff

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[daveandsan]

'We drive with our bottles off, so they are already off when we reach the pump.'

Same here.

 

[andy63]

but it is possible to use the heating while on the move these days, certainly with the diesel heating and im assuming same with the gas as well... ill bet that a lot of folk just drive in and fill without even remembering to shut their tank or cylinders.... I know I did and now I never give it a thought... but then im been honest.....
Andy

 

[scotjimland]

but it is possible to use the heating while on the move these days, certainly with the diesel heating and im assuming same with the gas as well... ill bet that a lot of folk just drive in and fill without even remembering to shut their tank or cylinders.... I know I did and now I never give it a thought... but then im been honest.....
Andy

yes, when required I drive with Truma heating on, and yes have also forgotten to do a lot of things I know aren't right.. like not turning off bottles before filling, and when we had the RV the fridge only had 240v or Gas no 12v option, .. so it was on all the time and I often forgot to turn it off when refuelling.. even left it on by mistake on a ferry.. still here to tell the tale. ..

A bit like pushing wires into sockets when no plug to fit ... we get away with it but doesn't make it right or safe.. nor would you advise anyone else to do that.. what we preach and what we practice are often quite different..

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[Happy1]

Pulled into garage in alps recently with both bottles on ( running heating whilst driving at -5 deg, and fridge on gas (. Forgot to switch to 12v when moved off) )
Plugged in gas filler but pressed red button not green so:gas stopped
Then remembered bottles turned in, heating on, fridge on !!
Promptly woke up turned everything off an filled with gas and wondered what would ha happened if had chosen green bottom over red?!

 

[Lenny HB]

On auto I run the risk of emptying both bottles, that would be an inconvenience I don't need.

I wouldn't want auto changeover without the remote indicator, with it, it works a treat.

 

[tonyidle]

I've just bought a device from the US to accurately show bottle contents. I know this is the Holy Grail of the bottled gas users world but I really think this thing might have cracked it. It's basically a weighing scale with a remote readout that also transmits using Bluetooth to a smartphone app. The scale sits under the bottle and the remote can be positioned (within the limits of its cable) wherever you choose. It shows % of gas left. If two bottles are teed it only needs to be under one of them to remain accurate. It has arrived here but I haven't as yet had time to install it. I'll report back when I know how accurate (or not) it is. It's called a GasWatch.

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[Bailey58]

I've just bought a device from the US to accurately show bottle contents. I know this is the Holy Grail of the bottled gas users world but I really think this thing might have cracked it. It's basically a weighing scale with a remote readout that also transmits using Bluetooth to a smartphone app. The scale sits under the bottle and the remote can be positioned (within the limits of its cable) wherever you choose. It shows % of gas left. If two bottles are teed it only needs to be under one of them to remain accurate. It has arrived here but I haven't as yet had time to install it. I'll report back when I know how accurate (or not) it is. It's called a GasWatch.

It is suitable for Tare Weight (Empty Tank Weight) - 16.6lb, 17.0lb, 17.6lb, 18.0lb, and 19.0lb.

Looks interesting but I wonder how well it would sit, and register, on our bottles especially when they're well strapped in.

 

[Lenny HB]

It is suitable for Tare Weight (Empty Tank Weight) - 16.6lb, 17.0lb, 17.6lb, 18.0lb, and 19.0lb

Would only work properly with a 14kg Alugas cylinder then as an 11kg or 6kg would be too light.
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[Lenny HB]

Dho! Something going on strange with editing today.

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[Lenny HB]

It is suitable for Tare Weight (Empty Tank Weight) - 16.6lb, 17.0lb, 17.6lb, 18.0lb, and 19.0lb.

Would only work with a 14kg Alugas cylinder, 11kg & 6kg would be too light.

 

[joka250]

@Lisa https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...-news/eccles-morrisons-camper-van-lpg-7154852

Nothing I say is intended to lessen the severity of this or any other similar event but I would be interested to know the exact circumstances. What system was in use, was it an external filler, was it a loose cylinder that should not have been refilled and how knowledgeable was the man doing the filling.
I think it is reasonable to say that we all have an obligation to carry out these procedures in the safest way possible for our own safety as well as that of all others. I am aware that we should shut off the valves before filling and it can be a nuisance and yes the figures quoted in other posts suggest there is nothing to worry about but we should follow the advice of all the manufacturers. By the way, I am no Angel I have in the past failed to follow this advice.

 

[gus-lopez]

Interesting: on the one hand we are encouraged to fit the Gaslow filling nozzle on the outside of the van so we don't have to open the locker door when refilling (and thus be forbidden from filling by the service station); on the other hand we are told we have to open the gas locker door to turn off the bottles in order to fill (and thus run the risk of being forbidden from filling by the service station).

Alternatively, we could could stop before the filling station, open the locker, turn off the bottles, drive to the station, fill without opening the locker door, drive round the corner, stop, open the locker, turn on the bottles and continue with the journey.

I have an on board gas tank mounted on the outside behind passenger seat. Obviously it has a remote filler but you have to open the small door that shows the level gauge to turn on the valve to allow gas to fill the tank. Whilst doing that I turn off the outlet from tank to inside. When full of gas I then shut the inlet & open the outlet.

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[tonyidle]

Would only work with a 14kg Alugas cylinder, 11kg & 6kg would be too light.

There will be a margin of error with different tare weights but the error will be constant. So far it's the best device I've seen. And funnily enough I'm running Alugas cylinders . Cylinders held by fabric straps should be OK but if not they can be eased a little - fabric straps tight or slack will have little effect in an accident anyway.

 

[two]

I wouldn't want auto changeover without the remote indicator, with it, it works a treat.

Depends on your routine. If you travel with bottles switched off, you'll visit the locker regularly enough top know when you've switched to reserve.

 

[Lenny HB]

Depends on your routine. If you travel with bottles switched off, you'll visit the locker regularly enough top know when you've switched to reserve.

Since have long a Secumotion regulators & anti rupture hoses only turn the gas off for ferries.

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[wanderer]

We have refilled our Gas Low three times @ shell garage in Vera AP7 this winter and found our grill was taking 60 seconds to ignite until this morning and now it is igniting in 10 seconds , is it quality of gas as the temperature has been pretty constant ??

 

[Lenny HB]

Spain can be up to 65% butane cold mornings could affect it if down below 10°. Grill should still light but will take longer to heat the thermocouple to keep it alight.

 

[kickstart]

why the sarcasm..?

I wasn't being sarcastic Jim, I was saying I didn't know, Ive learned some thing.

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[Euro_Martin]

This link works..

https://www.gaslowdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Filling-Fitting-Instructions-2014-onwards.pdf

 

[DK1083]

Just put one of these on my van. I have an 11kg GasIt cylinder and a 6kg propane as a back up. The gauge is manual so the propane cylinder is permanently turned off until required.

 

[Lenny HB]

It's an 8 year old thread, those gauges are useless they only tell you when the cylinder is nearly empty.

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