fiat ducato 2.5l diesel engine questions

[ralphman]

we have a fiat ducato maxi 1983 (a reg) 2.5l diesel motorhome.

the engine mounts have snapped, theres a crack in a housing (whatever that is)

and the starter motor is dodgy (you have to rock the van to start it cold )
my questions are :
A)would it be cheaper to buy a replacement engine (secondhand) ? if i can find one which so far i can't
B) can i replace it with a diesel turbo without replacing gearbox & other things
C) set fire to it (only joking at the moment)
thanks, any tips or info would be great
sam

 

[Dodgey]

Surley you just need new engine mounts and a starter and all will be well, bit drastic changing the engine and unless you bought the whole lot chances are it wouldn't come with the starter? Or is this a you/your garage/mechanic can't find the parts?

 

[hilldweller]

theres a crack in a housing (whatever that is)
sam

You can just say "housing". It could be a 10p thermostat housing. Find out.

Starter - under a hundred for a recon at a guess, but if the ring gear has gone as well then it's pricey - again find out.

I thought you had found a replacement - or was that new ?

We can't give you advice if you don't supply the right informations.

<FX> Olde farte goes off into the distance muttering "kids today".

 

[ralphman]

mmmmmm.... well a bit of both really, there a few small oil leaks,to get to the the cracked housing the gearbox has to come out and just thought by the time in labour to fix all these things & sourse starter etc it may work out cheaper just to fit a new engine

 

[ralphman]

I thought you had found a replacement - or was that new ?

<FX> Olde farte goes off into the distance muttering "kids today".

well thats why i put 'whatever that is' I'M A GIRL i don't DO engines !
all i know is the housing is alluminium
the engine i found was secondhand for £2200 , it's going in saturday to have the engine mounts done so was just picking man brains

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[johnsandywhite]

well thats why i put 'whatever that is' I'M A GIRL i don't DO engines !
all i know is the housing is alluminium
the engine i found was secondhand for £2200 , it's going in saturday to have the engine mounts done so was just picking man brains

£2,200? You could buy another Van for that.

 

[ralphman]

i know thats what i sort of said there was one on ebay for £350 but cant find an answer to if i cld put that in as it was a turbo and mine is non turbo, without changing gearbox and all that jazz

 

[johnsandywhite]

i know thats what i sort of said there was one on ebay for £350 but cant find an answer to if i cld put that in as it was a turbo and mine is non turbo, without changing gearbox and all that jazz

:Cool: I cannot see any reason why a Turbo motor could not be fitted.

 

[hilldweller]

well thats why i put 'whatever that is' I'M A GIRL i don't DO engines !
all i know is the housing is alluminium
the engine i found was secondhand for £2200 , it's going in saturday to have the engine mounts done so was just picking man brains

It's fine picking our brains but give us some clues.

A thermostat housing is aluminium and the size of a chip shop pudding tin and costs about as much.

Give us the fact maam, just the facts.**

Worst case could be the second hand engine comes without a starter and almost certainly without engine mounts.


** name that old Amercan TV program.

 

[ralphman]

ok i submit brian .. !! i don't know anymore facts than i have given. i don't know my arthurs from marthas where engines are concerned, so i'll see what my mechanic says saturday

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[Terry]

Hi there's a pugeot boxer 2.5 complete van for 825 quids buy that and stick it in --straight fit

terry
ooops forgot to say it is on auto trader

 

[ralphman]

brian it's a bell housing

 

[ralphman]

Give us the fact maam, just the facts.**


** name that old Amercan TV program.

** was it columbo ???

 

[Wildman]

well thats why i put 'whatever that is' I'M A GIRL i don't DO engines !
all i know is the housing is alluminium
the engine i found was secondhand for £2200 , it's going in saturday to have the engine mounts done so was just picking man brains

Hey do forgive us for not realising RALPH MAN is a woman, must pay attention and read more into things, hee hee
From the sounds of it you have all the symptoms of reverse judder. How old is the van/engine. I would go back to the manufacturers as unfit for purpose, whatever the age anyway.

 

[hilldweller]

Hey do forgive us for not realising RALPH MAN is a woman,

Maybe it's RalphMan when it suits her and "I'm a poor little gurly whirly" when she needs help ?

Who knows, damn confusing, these things without willies.

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[ralphman]

RALPHMAN is actually my dog who you see sitting in his chair hahaaha & of course i flutter my eyelashes when there is work to be done !

i cannot return vehicle as 'sold as seen ' private sale but hey it'll be fixable .
1983 2.5l diesel,lhd, the manufacturors have probably all died i'm afraid

brian was it ** columbo ?

 

[hilldweller]

brian was it ** columbo ?

Before he was born !

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[ralphman]

thanks brian , that's so funny ! i love b&w films

 

[pappajohn]

just dawned on me from your other post.......a used replacement engine wont come with the bell housing.
its part of the gearbox....seperate casing but a part of it nonetheless.

 

[ralphman]

thanks puppajohn i would have been gutted if i'd bought one and it was missing, well i think from what everyone has said i'll try and get a new starter motor and see if the bell housing can be repaired, can you weld alluminium ? mmm.. & get new bolts on saturday for the engine mounts & fix the oil leaks zzzzzzzzz where was i , so frustrating as just want to get going somewhere ,anywhere thanks for info

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[hilldweller]

brian it's a bell housing

Ding Dong - You got there

I do not know what that is like on your Fiat - it's basically a big mounting bracket between the engine and gearbox. On it's own not worth a lot, get ringing and see if you can find one.

 

[hilldweller]

thanks brian , that's so funny ! i love b&w films

His famous catch phrase was "Give me the facts maam, just the facts maam" in the deadpan voice. It wasn't in that clip though. I used to be glued to that once.

 

[hilldweller]

can you weld alluminium ? mmm..

No problem. But getting out to weld it IS a problem. If it's only a crack it may be possible to drill the end to stop it spreading and carry on, it just depends how bad the crack is.

 

[ralphman]

Ding Dong - You got there

I do not know what that is like on your Fiat - it's basically a big mounting bracket between the engine and gearbox. On it's own not worth a lot, get ringing and see if you can find one.

thanks brian have posted a pic to avoid the RALPHMAN confusion

 

[ralphman]

If it's only a crack it may be possible to drill the end to stop it spreading and carry on, it just depends how bad the crack is.

someone else suggested that so going to pass it on to those that do ( flutter flutter )

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[hilldweller]

thanks brian have posted a pic to avoid the RALPHMAN confusion

NOW we understand the look on your dogs face !

 

[ralphman]

NOW we understand the look on your dogs face !

mmm.. well i must confess he has also been ralph napkinhead