Fiat Alko Maxi chassis help (1 Viewer)

[lucas70]

Hi everyone,can you help? we have just placed a deposit on a 2004 Frankia comfort i7 good. the question is the chassis MIRO is 3465kg, and the gross permissible laden weight is4000kg. is it possible to increase the laden weight and what is required, cost etc. the vehicle is on a Fiat Alko Maxi chassis.

 

[Vic]

Possibly. What are your max axle weights?

 

[lucas70]

here is a copy of plate details
ALKO KOBER AG
e13*98/14p0049
stufe 2
4000kg
5.500kg

1- 1.850kg
2- 2.300kg
Typ AMC1 MC40XA 138007

hope this helps

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[pappajohn]

You should be able to increase from 4000kg to 4150kg without any mechanical upgrades.
Higher than that will need suspension airbags and maybe higher load rated tyres.

 

[tonka]

SV TECH or J. Ruffles will be able to quote..
If it's an Alko chassis and need air suspension then I think it's a lot more expensive to do.
The van wont be a standard Fiat MAXI chassis.. That came out later than 2004...

 

[icantremember]

The van wont be a standard Fiat MAXI chassis

OP said it was Al-Ko

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[lucas70]

It has air suspension does that change things?

 

[pappajohn]

Not sure but I think the van will need inspecting to confirm the air bag fitment otherwise anyone could say they have bags fitted...even if they haven't....to gain extra weight.
Without the bags it's just a paper exercise to take it to the max axle weights. I.E.: 4150kg

 

[tonka]

OP said it was Al-Ko

Spotted that but was unsure is OP knew the chassis was not made by Fiat.
I have heard of Fiat maxi chassis but not an Alko maxi... Hence the confusion ( for me anyway)

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[peterc10]

The Alko maxi chassis is rated up to 4500kg, or at least ours is. But you may need to change wheels and tyres to get there.

 

[jongood]

When we uprated our last van via svtech, they took our word for the air assisters and it popped up to 4100kgs.

I m not sure I would bother in this case though you re allowed 5% anyway which is 200kgs.

 

[jongood]

Oh and in 11 years and over 80,000 miles never been stopped to be weighed.

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[Minxy]

Hi everyone,can you help? we have just placed a deposit on a 2004 Frankia comfort i7 good. the question is the chassis MIRO is 3465kg, and the gross permissible laden weight is4000kg. is it possible to increase the laden weight and what is required, cost etc. the vehicle is on a Fiat Alko Maxi chassis.

First things first, what is the ACTUAL MIRO weight, not the 'supposed' MIRO weight ... you need to get it taken to a weigh bridge and check what actual payload there is ... if its had bits and bobs put on (awning etc) there could be only a little bit left and even uprating may not give you enough.

 

[jongood]

Just for clarity - vosa guidance page 12

https://www.freight-train.co.uk/downloads/VOSA_GFPN_guidance.pdf

 

[Infinity31]

Oh and in 11 years and over 80,000 miles never been stopped to be weighed.

Funny that, when I questioned the pathetic payload of a van I was looking at the dealer poo poo'ed my comment saying don't worry, no one is ever stopped and weighed. Yeah.

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[lunarman]

As @Minxy Girl says you must first establish the actual weight of the vehicle, furthermore you must also establish the current loading of each axle to see whether it is possible to utilise the whole of the 4150kg without overloading one of them.
You will need to ensure that the weight distribution is such that neither axle is overloaded. For example if the van has a garage you may be tempted to put all the extra items in there. however this will put all of the extra weight onto the back axle but will lighten the front. The overall weight may be within the permitted load but the back axle could be seriously overloaded.
I understand the having an axle overloaded is a bigger sin than exceeding the max permissible weight. It may be for this reason that you may not be able to utilise the whole of the 4250 theoretical limit.

 

[mitzimad]

500plus kilos is a good payload by todays standards

 

[lucas70]

Thanks everyone for you input, I will have to investigate further. MIRO is 3465kg MPLW towing is 5500kg

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