Dieppe to Valencia

[romany]

Just wondering if there is any reason apart fro slightly less in time why western france route Bayonne/Pamploma seems to be favoured over Beziere/Perpignan, was also wondering if some of the route guides are correct or giving a worse case scenario as in using toll roads time comes in as about 14 hours and non toll 20 hours I have done what I call the N10 route non toll and didn't think the driving was that much slower than toll.
Reason considering Beziere route is some have suggested its a better route in winter (travelling in early march) regarding less snow and ice.
Whats the experts views on this

 

[Just smiffy]

Some of the reasons that the toll route tells you its quicker is that it thinks your going to go faster at the higher speed limit... if you still are going to poodle along at 55-60mph it will still take just as long, well, maybe a little quicker as not so many roundabouts....

I poodle everywhere as I’m in no hurry and I don’t do toll roads...?

 

[Mobsy]

I'm in no hurry so no point in doing the toll roads, I'm also hoping the weather and road conditions will be better in mid-January down the Western side.

 

[romany]

Some of the reasons that the toll route tells you its quicker is that it thinks your going to go faster at the higher speed limit... if you still are going to poodle along at 55-60mph it will still take just as long, well, maybe a little quicker as not so many roundabouts....

I poodle everywhere as I’m in no hurry and I don’t do toll roads...?

Normally I would also be poodling along unfortunately I am insured with comfort who although very good will not insure me for more than 55 days hence the question on route differences, trying to fit in the fires and my wifes mothers 90th birthday coming back from this trip on Bilboa/ portsmouth

 

[yodeli]

I fear more the atlantic coast than the Béziers/Perpignan road, but it's probably because my feelings are biaised. I know this part better than the Atlantic coast. What I like is that if any snow, the motorway is still there and cleared.

Anyway if around Toulouse at that time, just think you can have a free stopover at my place.

Amicalement
Frankie

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[Phill D]

in my view it is more likely that the motorways will be clear if bad weather.

also... with the changes in speed limits on N roads , and the uncertainty of the set speed limit which is as i understand it been delegated to individual regions to decide, it appears unclear and therefore a risk of speeding fines.

then theres them roundabouts.....

for me the motorway is a much less stressful drive.

But hey! each to our own..

 

[romany]

I fear more the atlantic coast than the Béziers/Perpignan road, but it's probably because my feelings are biaised. I know this part better than the Atlantic coast. What I like is that if any snow, the motorway is still there and cleared.

Anyway if around Toulouse at that time, just think you can have a free stopover at my place.

Amicalement
Frankie

Thanks for that very kind offer Frankiewill bear it in mind depending on what we decide

 

[PhilandMena]

I have done both routes and driving over the Massive Central in the summer is a delight. For winter driving and If I'm heading for Spain I always use the N10 route and take the partial toll option which is quite a saving compared with toll roads and I have never seen snow on the N10 route in the winter and I guess this is because of its proximity to the Atlantic ocean.
I have the N10 route in the resources section and will post a link for your consideration. If it was me travelling down in March, I would be inclined to take the N10 route. Safe Travels.

From Calais to southwest France & Spain without tolls

A relevant page from about-france.com

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

 

[Dorwyn]

in my view it is more likely that the motorways will be clear if bad weather.

also... with the changes in speed limits on N roads , and the uncertainty of the set speed limit which is as i understand it been delegated to individual regions to decide, it appears unclear and therefore a risk of speeding fines.

then theres them roundabouts.....

for me the motorway is a much less stressful drive.

But hey! each to our own..

Totally agree with this, I got fined on the N10 doing 5kph above speed limit, the road at that point was 2 lane dual carriageway and it looked just like any other higher speed stretch of road, no crossroads or obstructions. Camera was just a few metres away from the next higher speed section, obviously placed to catch the unwary. And the speed limits on the N10 change constantly, 80, 90, 120. I will not take this route again. Prefer to pay tolls, less stress. I guess if you're only doing 80 kph all the way, it could work for you. So, yes, each to his/her own.

 

[romany]

I have done both routes and driving over the Massive Central in the summer is a delight. For winter driving and If I'm heading for Spain I always use the N10 route and take the partial toll option which is quite a saving compared with toll roads and I have never seen snow on the N10 route in the winter and I guess this is because of its proximity to the Atlantic ocean.
I have the N10 route in the resources section and will post a link for your consideration. If it was me travelling down in March, I would be inclined to take the N10 route. Safe Travels.

From Calais to southwest France & Spain without tolls

A relevant page from about-france.com

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

I have been looking at your partial toll route and is one I am considering, thanks for putting it up there. One point I hadn't consider until it was mentioned by Phil D was how the new lower speed limits will affect the time and how rapidly they change, on our trip back from Xmas markets we had 7 speed changes in only one mile going from 110 to 60 back up to 90 then to 50 then 70 and all the while satnav stating limit as 110 (no road works)

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[Lenny HB]

I am insured with comfort who although very good will not insure me for more than 55 days

Comfort standard policy is 365 days European cover limit of 90 day on a single trip.

also... with the changes in speed limits on N roads ,

No change if you are over 3500kg.

I hate the N10, a constant line of lorries speed limit of 80kph and no overtaking if over 3500kg on a motorway standard road.
I prefer the A20 free Autoroute from Version to Brive, a few more km but so much nicer and nowhere near as many lorries.
Look at the trips in my signature it will give you an idea of our routes nearly always from Dieppe.

 

[romany]

Comfort standard policy is 365 days European cover limit of 90 day on a single trip.

No change if you are over 3500kg.

I hate the N10, a constant line of lorries speed limit of 80kph and no overtaking if over 3500kg on a motorway standard road.
I prefer the A20 free Autoroute from Version to Brive, a few more km but so much nicer and nowhere near as many lorries.
Look at the trips in my signature it will give you an idea of our routes nearly always from Dieppe.

Well spotted Lenny should be All clear for health insurance 55 days comfort is my motor home insurance and your figures are correct my vehicle is under 3.5 will take a look at your route

 

[PeteH]

Have to admit, to only ever having done the Atlantic side (N10) route, and rarely exceed 50mph (80kph). But I did a calculation about 10 years ago now, which came out at in excess of £120 in Tolls alone, if you stuck to allegedly shorter M`way routes. Even my R-V couldn't make that up in fuel saving!. The one time I did "save" money was a (very) "special deal" on Portsmouth to Santander, and 60 gallon of "free" diesel.

 

[namwaldog]

We travelled down what we call the Central route 3 weeks ago.

Calais, Abbeville, Rouen, Evereux, Dreux, Chartres, Blois, Chateauroux, Limoges, Toulouse, Narbonne, Perpignan, La Jonquera.

Normally stick to the National or non-toll roads all the way but we were delayed setting off this winter and as the weather wasn't great with fog and rain, decided to make some progress going down the A20 south of Limoges.
So we decided to stay on A20 when it became a Peage south of Brive.
Pleasantly surprised that at Class 2, the total charge from Brive to La Jonquera(Spain) , about 220 miles, worked out at €58.

Certainly a lot easier drive and as we don't use sat-nav it was a bonus to pick up the signs for Barcelona all the way from Toulouse

Barry

 

[PhilandMena]

I have been looking at your partial toll route and is one I am considering, thanks for putting it up there. One point I hadn't consider until it was mentioned by Phil D was how the new lower speed limits will affect the time and how rapidly they change, on our trip back from Xmas markets we had 7 speed changes in only one mile going from 110 to 60 back up to 90 then to 50 then 70 and all the while satnav stating limit as 110 (no road works)

I came back along this route in May of this year, although to Dieppe and not Calais and came across one speed camera that I thought was badly placed as it was only a few hundred meters, or less, after a speed sign that lowered the previous speed limit. In saying that, even in the UK the law is clear that the designated speed starts at the sign and not after it and therefore motorists are duly warned. I'm no different to many motorists and start to slow down before reaching a speed sign but in many cases going past the sign at a faster speed that stated. A risk that I take and if caught by a camera just after the sign is sadly a fair cop. However, much of the N10 is either motorway and or duel carriageway and as I rarely drive beyond 90 KPH this route is ideal for me. The vast majority of it is at 90 KPH or above. My advice to any motorist who has a concern or issue about speed limits or wants to drive faster than the speed limits on the N10 roads, is to use the toll roads. Finally, if you do choose this route you can save a shed load of fuel money by arriving at the Spanish boarder at Irun almost empty. A few K's further along the toll road is this fuel station.

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