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Went to Doctors for a review of the drugs I take for my enlarged prostate.Think we will do blood tests to see what your PSA level is.May as well give you a full MOT.So nurse took 3 phials of blood.3 days later get a phone call to say could I make an urgent appointment to see Doctor.Yesterday appointment arrives and I get the news that my PSA level is normal but I have got type 2 Diabetes.Blood sugar twice normal level and that explains lack of energy,aching feet etc.Got to go on diet,get more exercise and go on drugs.Looks like I will have to give up all the Champagne and wine I drink when we go to France.Let alone all the great meals we have out.Can't live on broccoli,spinach etc.Hav'nt been in touch with holiday insurance co yet!but wife has just been diagnosed with irregular heartbeat and with me now being Diabetic I expect premiums will go through the roof.Will not be able to rely on E11 either if Brexit ever happens!!
 
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Hi, I know it's a shock but its not the worst thing to happen. Same thing happened to me and it has forced me to improve my diet, exercise more and be generally more grown up! I have managed to avoid any medication and still drinking Red wine as it seems to help. As long as you are not taking insulin then you will be OK with Insurance, driving licence etc. Hope this does not sound smug - it's a real pain to be sensible - but I keep looking at the upsides!!!!
 

pappajohn

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Type 2 won't change your life too much unless you let it.
I've had type 2 a few years now and carry on more or less as before with a few minor changes and each annual check up is fine.
Next door neighbour however is completely paranoid... He tells me he has his meals to the minute every day, takes his meds to the minute every day, stopped drinking altogether.... Alarms set for everything... It rules his life.

I eat ABOUT the same time, take my meds ABOUT the same time, still drink but not like I used to..... I control it, It doesn't rule my life
 

Riverbankannie

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Went to Doctors for a review of the drugs I take for my enlarged prostate.Think we will do blood tests to see what your PSA level is.May as well give you a full MOT.So nurse took 3 phials of blood.3 days later get a phone call to say could I make an urgent appointment to see Doctor.Yesterday appointment arrives and I get the news that my PSA level is normal but I have got type 2 Diabetes.Blood sugar twice normal level and that explains lack of energy,aching feet etc.Got to go on diet,get more exercise and go on drugs.Looks like I will have to give up all the Champagne and wine I drink when we go to France.Let alone all the great meals we have out.Can't live on broccoli,spinach etc.Hav'nt been in touch with holiday insurance co yet!but wife has just been diagnosed with irregular heartbeat and with me now being Diabetic I expect premiums will go through the roof.Will not be able to rely on E11 either if Brexit ever happens!!
Sympathies for your news but at least you know you can sort it with diet.
As to travel insurance, we have used Eurotunnel this past year. I know it’s not perfect as restricted to 30 days in any one trip and only annual if under 70 years old so we had to get it every trip, but, the only medical question asked is “If asked, would your doctor state that you are fit to travel?”
Before coming to Spain this time, I made appointment with GP and asked that direct question and was told “absolutely you are”, and I made the travel arrangements that day.
I don’t think you actually have to go to GP before every trip but I am in the middle of this DVLA thing with for my licence so I thought it best to check.
 

nelly

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Your insurance should not go up if you inform them, you will just not be covered for anything related to Diabetes ( which is highly unlikley ) I have had it for 30 years (insulin) and never had a problem with insurance.
Neil
Just look after yourself
 

GPW

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Sorry to hear that.

There is good news however: Type II is usually controllable by diet.
* Cut out all sugar and processed foods ASAP.
* Cut down on carbohydrates over 4 weeks or so to give your body a chance to realign.
* Avoid white rice and white bread, switch to brown rice and organic brown bread.
(Do NOT eat non-organic brown wheat products ('coz Roundup (tm))).

Buy a breadmaker - ask more details if you want to.
Eat organic pumpkin seeds to keep your prostate happy.

It's the processed food and sugars that you need to avoid, people were never designed to run on starch, glucose, hydrogenated fats and Roundup (tm).
 
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I am with Pandas here..Diabetes is controllable. You can do something about it. Prostate issues ...trust me, they are a bugger! Been there and got the tea shirt etc etc! Its not fun!

Be glad that the air you breathe is fresh and full of life!

Kev

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I have had type 2 for 12 years now and it has hardly changed anything. I eat sensibly, drink in moderation and monitor my sugar intake. The maximum sugar intake for a non-diabetic is about 90 g daily and I try to keep below 45 which seems to suit me. I recently reduced my meds by half and feel great. Excercise a little more, reduce your carbs intake and take your meds and you will be fine. As for DVLA and insurance, as long as you are not on insulin or other meds that may cause a hypo, I don’t think you even need to inform them. One thing that does seem to happen on Metformin is the possibility of diarrhoea. I seem to get it once a month but it’s not a problem as long as I am near to facilities.
By the way, Morrison’s do a very nice range of sugar free biscuits so you can indulge without overly worrying. Good luck and keep your chin up!
 
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Before any diet whilst on meducation, check with dr or your diabetic nurse, whilst on a diet your blood level could drop too low and cause hypo. As others have stated type 2 with medication or just diet is controllable, keep an eye on sugar content of your food, most of the time, do not let it rule your life.
 
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Agree with all above. The advice and support from diabetes nurse and clinic has been amazing- plus the nhs knowledge is growing daily as to diet and treatments. Carbs=sugars. To be even more positive I think the motorhome lifestyle is the best possible way to travel with type 2. Can choose what you eat and drink. Was 6 weeks in France enjoying the food cheese bread wine etc and with lots of walking/cycling still managed to reduce my hbiac to almost prediabetic levels. Got to be good.
 

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Stop ALL sugars, not just the white stuff in packets, High-Fructose corn syrup is the worst thing that there is , a product of the US corporations to kill the world, It is in almost everything you eat that is made in a factory, fizzy drinks ( Full Fat it is called for a reason) are all made with it factory confectionery and almost all proprietory foods. You Must get a list of the sugar equivalents to show how sugar is in most things we are given to eat. All the low fat products are packed with sugar to replace the Fat they do not use, to keep some sort of taste. Dump ALL cooking oils and Margarines they are poison to the body. Use Butter, Lard, Coconut oil and some Olive oil to cook. Eat meats and use milk and cream, proper full fat double cream.
Alsel Keys was the instigator of the LOW FAT DIET and he has killed off more people early than Hitler and Stalin ever did. The new researches on Fat are slowly coming to the front of medical science , the were decried and vilified for so many years. EAT THE FAT, PROTEIN, and very little carbohydrate diet.. Don't go by the government guidelines, go instead to the Diabetes UK. site and watch the talks by Dr Unwin, on You tube to point the way, also the Fat Emperor, site of the Irish Heart awareness charity.. Do not forget that all the people with Heart disease ARE diabetic they just have not been diagnosed yet. The sugar and insulin responce values are set too high otherwise there wouuld be many more diabetics on the list than now. The Belly fat is the sign of the disease and if you have it you are almost certainly on the spectrum.
Vist Dr Unwin and see what he says and get advice, Your Doctor will almost certainly not know about the latest research and will trot out the usual guidlines, Sugar is the enemy kill it before it kills you.

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Devastated is a bit severe, as other have said it is serious but not that bad unless you ignore the doctors. Bev has been type 2 for over 10 years and only just gone on to medication and she admits that was due mainly to lazy dieting

Chin up don’t go over board on the dieting, still plenty of scope to enjoy yourself
 

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I tried to give up sugar in hot drinks.... I can give up oxygen if I try hard enough but giving up sugar.... Not a chance
Can't and won't use sweeteners... Sacherine (sp) etc is a legal poison.
Half Spoon....... Half white sugar, half sweetener. Tastes like sugar, looks like sugar, over twice the price of sugar (what do you expect?) but one level spoon is all I need instead of two heaped of regular white sugar.
Available in most supermarkets around £2.20kg
 
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Regarding your insurance.

You could try these people https://www.insurancewith.com/

You can do an online quote by inputting all your health issues and they give you a quote online rather than have to hang on the phone for ages.

I have been sorting out my parents travel insurance with these for a few years now and my parents have a lot more serious ailments than you unfortunately have.

My father died the end of last year from cancer but they still insured him to go on his last cruise 4 months before he passed away and at a reasonable cost.

Good luck.
 

GPW

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Can't and won't use sweeteners... Sacherine (sp) etc is a legal poison.

Good point, when I say 'Give up sugar' that doesn't mean swapping it for a far more toxic substance.

Saccharin is possibly the least poisonous of the sweeteners, Aspartame (Nutrasweet etc - lots of names to hide it under) and Sucralose etc. and far worse - if you think I'm joking then search for the side effects on the internet. They are all capable of giving you some pretty serious diseases. No sugar, NO substitutes.

E.g: https://draxe.com/artificial-sweeteners/

Giving up sugar is instant: just STOP. It will however take 2-3 weeks for your taste system to re-calibrate and efter 4-5 weeks you won't even notice. After a while you'll be able to taste coffee in coffee instead of some vague sweet taste too and wine will seem less sharp: there are benefits!

Giving it up also means you no longer need to keep or store it which is also a bonus, actually the reason I gave up sugar in tea and coffee years ago LOL.
 
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Hi, not diabetic but have to lose s good chunk of weight. The Dr Michael Mosley books are excellent. I’m doing his Blood Sugar Diet - week 5 of 800 calories a day and it’s doable. Good luck!

Spot on, type 2 is curable in 8 weeks, follow Dr Moseley.

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Echo a lot of above

Things to avoid;
Anything that says “low/reduced fat”
Any milk that is skimmed/semi skimmed
Anything trying to be butter, that is not butter
Fizzy pop,
ANYTHING that says “diet” on it
 

Puddleduck

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If you are careful type 2 can be managed. It's a wake up call not a death sentence and with lifestyle changes (all for the better) you will have a much healthier life and more energy. You don't have to give up all the "naughties" but you do have to be sensible about what you eat and drink.
 

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I have had a irregular heartbeat for the last 11 years they have told me all sorts of s..t about it,
Had my heart stopped twice by them that know 5 times each time but then back to normal (for me) 51 @the time.
When I asked what was the outcome if left, well you could have a stroke they said, Well I hope it is a big one as I do not want to be a burden on anyone,
I know this seems a harsh view but it is my choice :)
 
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A mate of mine was diagnosed with type 2 , diet and exercise he cleared it no meds required.
Good luck with things.
We all think we are invincible , when we get a diagnoses its a big kick .
Stay focussed

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138go

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Type 2 diabetes is curable by intermittent fasting and a low carbohydrate diet
5:2 diet would be a good place to start

Not for everyone and some people can’t fast due to other health problems.

Mrs QFour
 
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You cannot cure diabetes - if you could then you could beat it into remission and then revert to doing whatever caused it in the first place without T2 rearing it's ugly multi heads - and you can't revert. The only thing any diabetic's body had trouble with is carbohydrate. My body couldn't care less what colour a carb happens to be - they all need insulin in sufficient quantity at the appropriate time for that particular one, for the body to use them efficiently and not clog up the bloodstream and start damaging or closing down the internal organs.

One lousy feature of T2 is usually insulin resistance - ie the pancreas is working fine and able to shove out more than enough insulin to do the job but the IR throws a spanner in the works and doesn't let it do it's job. So it desperately chucks out more insulin - and the only place that can go if it ain't being used as it should, is to lay down fat.

Well that's a bugger, considering that internal fat, that surround the internal organs (instead of just an adequate layer of it just for a bit of protection) is the VERY thing that causes insulin resistance! Michael Mosley who was by no means fat nor unfit discovered that he had too much internal fat - which is what got him particularly interested in it and led to the book already mentioned. ie you do NOT have to be obese or a couch potato to get T2.

Low carb, normal fat, portion control, use your legs more than your cakehole.

Read this
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/test-review-adjust.html
Go on Amazon
and invest in an SD Codefree glucometer (the cheapest reliable one currently known)

and do what Alan Shanley's blog tells you to do.
 

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ie you do NOT have to be obese or a couch potato to get T2.

But it does help :)

Low carb, normal fat, portion control, use your legs more than your cakehole.

Absolutley agree. I struggle to understand why anyone would be satisfied taking pills each day for the rest of their lives when it's a life style issue that can be fixed.

Mick
 
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This is advice from a medical doctor US I know but still a doctor:)
I have been on the Ketogenic way of eating for months now I have lost 2.5 stones and never felt as well as this for years.

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