De-registration of motorhome in UK

[maz]

We are going through the somewhat lengthy process of importing our motorhome into Slovenia. We have successfully negotiated the potholes of homologation, the rapids of customs and the snake pit of DMV tax but are now approaching the bloody great spider's web of registration.

It seems that we have to physically send part of the V5 back to the DVLA to de-register the van in the UK. It also seems that once we have started the de-registration process we can no longer drive the van until it is re-registered in Slovenia. Does anyone know if this process of de-registration can be speeded up electronically, maybe by using a specialist service, as we can see this dragging on and on. We have the re-registration angle covered here in Slovenia, but we need to provide proof of the van's de-registration in the UK.

Any help or ideas gratefully received.

 

[maison]

We are going through the somewhat lengthy process of importing our motorhome into Slovenia. We have successfully negotiated the potholes of homologation, the rapids of customs and the snake pit of DMV tax but are now approaching the bloody great spider's web of registration.

It seems that we have to physically send part of the V5 back to the DVLA to de-register the van in the UK. It also seems that once we have started the de-registration process we can no longer drive the van until it is re-registered in Slovenia. Does anyone know if this process of de-registration can be speeded up electronically, maybe by using a specialist service, as we can see this dragging on and on. We have the re-registration angle covered here in Slovenia, but we need to provide proof of the van's de-registration in the UK.

Any help or ideas gratefully received.

We exported a motorcycle to France when we lived there. We simply used it in France, with a British registration, until we had completed the French registration process and received the French Carte Grise. We did this by visiting the French tax offices to show our original purchase invoice showing tax had already been paid and then the Police Prefecture to pay for, and collect, the Carte Gris.

At that point we returned the Notification of Permanent Export section of the V5(C) to the DVLA.

All went smoothly except that I handed the whole V5(C) to the French Prefecture and had to argue that I needed it in order to tear off the DVLA section. At first I was refused as “the document is now the property of the French authorities”. Fortunately our French was just about sufficient, at that stage, to explain what we had to do and it was returned for us to tear off the relevant section.

I don’t know if you can deal with it in a similar manner in Slovenia.

(BTW, the U.K. was still in the EU when we made our transfer so things may be different now).

 

[nicholsong]

We are going through the somewhat lengthy process of importing our motorhome into Slovenia. We have successfully negotiated the potholes of homologation, the rapids of customs and the snake pit of DMV tax but are now approaching the bloody great spider's web of registration.

It seems that we have to physically send part of the V5 back to the DVLA to de-register the van in the UK. It also seems that once we have started the de-registration process we can no longer drive the van until it is re-registered in Slovenia. Does anyone know if this process of de-registration can be speeded up electronically, maybe by using a specialist service, as we can see this dragging on and on. We have the re-registration angle covered here in Slovenia, but we need to provide proof of the van's de-registration in the UK.

Any help or ideas gratefully received.

Well I can only give you my experience of re-registration of my UK MH in Poland.

We had special problems because Poland will not accept RHD over 3.5t, but we got round that by registering it as vintage - no qualifying years. I now have number plate with a depiction at the end of a 1920's era car.

But here in Poland there is no requirement to show de-registration in UK, so I waited until Polish registration was complete before sending off the relevant bit of the V5c to Swansea.

The Slovenian rules seem to be strange. Is there no way that you can 'temporarily import' it or something?

These petty bureaucracy rules in different countries, in what is supposed to be a unified EU, drive me crazy.

You have my sympathy.

Geoff

 

[maz]

We exported a motorcycle to France when we lived there. We simply used it in France, with a British registration, until we had completed the French registration process and received the French Carte Grise. We did this by visiting the French tax offices to show our original purchase invoice showing tax had already been paid and then the Police Prefecture to pay for, and collect, the Carte Gris.

At that point we returned the Notification of Permanent Export section of the V5(C) to the DVLA.

All went smoothly except that I handed the whole V5(C) to the French Prefecture and had to argue that I needed it in order to tear off the DVLA section. At first I was refused as “the document is now the property of the French authorities”. Fortunately our French was just about sufficient, at that stage, to explain what we had to do and it was returned for us to tear off the relevant section.

I don’t know if you can deal with it in a similar manner in Slovenia.

(BTW, the U.K. was still in the EU when we made our transfer so things may be different now).

That is interesting, thank you. I had to google 'Carte Grise' but it seems to be a combination of homologation and registration. In Slovenia, the two are kept separate. The office that deals with vehicle registration showed us the only previous example of a UK importation that they had - a motorcycle from a few years back (pre-Br*x*t). The 'proof of UK de-registration' that they had was a refund of road tax notice. They would accept this for our motorhome but we don't know how to get this without sending back the V5 to the DVLA. SORNing it would no doubt open up a whole other can of worms.

 

[maison]

That is interesting, thank you. I had to google 'Carte Grise' but it seems to be a combination of homologation and registration. In Slovenia, the two are kept separate. The office that deals with vehicle registration showed us the only previous example of a UK importation that they had - a motorcycle from a few years back (pre-Br*x*t). The 'proof of UK de-registration' that they had was a refund of road tax notice. They would accept this for our motorhome but we don't know how to get this without sending back the V5 to the DVLA. SORNing it would no doubt open up a whole other can of worms.

You don’t have to return the whole V5(C) to the DVLA, only the one tear off section worded “Notice of Permanent Export from U.K.”, (or similar wording as I can’t remember the exact words). They will then send you your notice of de-registration. Hopefully that, together with the rest of the V5(C) may be enough.

Good luck!

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[maz]

But here in Poland there is no requirement to show de-registration in UK, so I waited until Polish registration was complete before sending off the relevant bit of the V5c to Swansea.

The Slovenian rules seem to be strange. Is there no way that you can 'temporarily import' it or something?

Slovenia rivals Italy for its love of bureaucracy. Everyone tries to be helpful but the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing. It has taken us 2 months since gaining our residence permits to get this far - running from one office to another and back again.

 

[maz]

You don’t have to return the whole V5(C) to the DVLA, only the one tear off section worded “Notice of Permanent Export from U.K.”, (or similar wording as I can’t remember the exact words). They will then send you your notice of de-registration. Hopefully that, together with the rest of the V5(C) may be enough.

Good luck!

No, that was just slightly sloppy wording on my behalf. In my original post I referred to sending back just part of the V5. The Slovenian authorities have copies of the V5 and are quite happy with it. The hurdle is getting 'proof of de-registration' from the UK before they will re-register it here.

 

[nicholsong]

No, that was just slightly sloppy wording on my behalf. In my original post I referred to sending back just part of the V5. The Slovenian authorities have copies of the V5 and are quite happy with it. The hurdle is getting 'proof of de-registration' from the UK before they will re-register it here.

There would be a delay in posting the part of the V5c to Swansea but once they have de-registered it you can see that online and print it off to show the Slowenian authorities.

Meanwhile you could swan around on UK plates and take the risk.

 

[maz]

There would be a delay in posting the part of the V5c to Swansea but once they have de-registered it you can see that online and print it off to show the Slowenian authorities.

Meanwhile you could swan around on UK plates and take the risk.

The DVLA state that we have to allow them 4 weeks to deal with the de-registration. That is on based on current document processing times which they reckon are 'normal'.

 

[maz]

Update

Happy to report that we have now got both the motorhome and the car registered in Slovenia - without having to de-register them in the UK first. It seems to have been a misunderstanding of the requirements by the official concerned (this happens quite a lot here). Anyway, both vehicles are now wearing their Slovenian plates, and we have subsequently sent the relevant part of the V5s back to the DVLA.

Another question tho' for those who have re-registered vehicles outside the UK: Did you receive a Certificate of Permanent Export (V561) from the DVLA as proof of de-registration? The government website is not at all clear about this, and I've read on a few sites that they were stopped in 2019.

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[nicholsong]

Update

Happy to report that we have now got both the motorhome and the car registered in Slovenia - without having to de-register them in the UK first. It seems to have been a misunderstanding of the requirements by the official concerned (this happens quite a lot here). Anyway, both vehicles are now wearing their Slovenian plates, and we have subsequently sent the relevant part of the V5s back to the DVLA.

Another question tho' for those who have re-registered vehicles outside the UK: Did you receive a Certificate of Permanent Export (V561) from the DVLA as proof of de-registration? The government website is not at all clear about this, and I've read on a few sites that they were stopped in 2019.

I did not, but it shows against the UK reg number on their website as 'Export marker........Yes', which I presume means exported, so one could be printed off.

 

[maz]

I did not, but it shows against the UK reg number on their website as 'Export marker........Yes', which I presume means exported, so one could be printed off.

Perhaps that's as good as it gets now ........

 

[Widge]

Update

Happy to report that we have now got both the motorhome and the car registered in Slovenia - without having to de-register them in the UK first. It seems to have been a misunderstanding of the requirements by the official concerned (this happens quite a lot here). Anyway, both vehicles are now wearing their Slovenian plates, and we have subsequently sent the relevant part of the V5s back to the DVLA.

Another question tho' for those who have re-registered vehicles outside the UK: Did you receive a Certificate of Permanent Export (V561) from the DVLA as proof of de-registration? The government website is not at all clear about this, and I've read on a few sites that they were stopped in 2019.

Over the years i have imported 5 vehicles into france, each time sent the export section of the v5 back to the DVLA, never heard a dickie bird after, so I presume that they have been de registered.

 

[gus-lopez]

I never heard anything.