Dacia offer 2 LPG-fuelled models

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LPG versions of the Dacia Duster, Sandero and Logan MCV models are now available, badged TCe 100 Bi-Fuel. All are powered by a 1.0-litre turbocharged dual-fuel powertrain and look identical to their petrol and diesel equivalents.

A button on the dashboard switches from the petrol to LPG fuel tanks, offering a combined range of up to 620 miles. The steel LPG tank is mounted in place of the spare wheel, meaning boot space is unaffected.


Apparently, available in Europe for some time and a third of the models sold in Italy run on LPG!

Perhaps if more manufacturers sold LPG-fuelled cars in the UK it would help ensure the existing 1400 LPG stations survive... (y)
 
The Italians (and others) have been promoting LPG as the 'new fuel' since the the 1980's !
The UK has never made it (tax-ably) the way to go.
In the UK, Electricity is seen as the 'new fuel'

However, most the rest of Europe is liable to head toward LPG, as electricity only works for those that have the ability to product electricity for "free."

The countries that have the ability (but not necessarily the wherewithal) to produce 'free' electricity are;
  • Norway (Hydropower)
  • Eastern England (Offshore Wind Turbines)
  • Western Denmark (Offshore Wind Turbines)
  • Top left area of Germany (Offshore Wind Turbines)
  • Netherlands (Onshore and Offshore Wind Turbines)
errrrr, that's it.
LPG is the future for the rest
 
Many years ago I had a dual fuel Motorhome - Compass Calypso and it was great. The advice at the time was always to start every journey on petrol and then just flick a little switch and onto LPG. Granted the mpg was greatly reduced running on gas but given the price difference between petrol and gas it was still a lot cheaper option. I would certainly consider it again.
 
Approx 20 years ago I had a 1 litre Nissan Micra converted to LPG, cost was subsidised by a government backed scheme to get LPG more widely used in vehicles. The conversion was a disaster. Good cheap mileage but reduction of power in the 1 ltr engine and regular stalling at road junctions. It was backwards and forwards to the Nissan garage that did the conversion to have the vehicle mapping tweaked but never got any better and after about 10,000 miles there was a lack of compression in the engine and a new engine was fitted under warranty. I had the same reduction of power with new engine and eventually got so fed up that I sold the car.
Not long after that I bought a newish Renault and where the filler cap was there was space for an additional filler and the dash had an LPG symbol although never lit up which suggested that Renault where looking at using LPG at some stage but didn't go ahead with it.

At the time there was a local taxi firm running a fleet of vauxhall cars on LPG and this was very successful with some vehicles covering well over 200,000 miles without any issues.
 
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mikebeaches said:
Apparently, available in Europe for some time
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Yes quite popular here with council & government users .explains why many garages have installed lpg pumps .Lots of ambulances now running on it as well here

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These have been running for a while.

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LPG is no cleaner or less polluting than petrol or Diesel. Whether a country chooses to use it or not has nothing to do with availability of cheap electricity - it's either a political or economic decision.
 
Based on independent testing of nearly 9,000 cars from the EU that were manufactured recently and that have state-of-the-art pollution controls, those that run on LPG produce 11% less CO2 in operation and about 15% less from ‘well to wheel’, i.e. over the entire fuel supply chain than identical cars run on petrol.
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Dacia petrol cars are seriously poor cars. Diesels are valued about the correct price.
 
originally the london low emmision zone was free for lpg but they removed the concesion when everyone went to lpg
 
Thats the ultra low zone, lpg is still allowed in the congestion zone I believe.
 
rickwiggans said:
Interested in what makes you say that about the petrol version. I'm looking at getting one.
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Driven both. The petrol could sit at 70 with not a lot in reserve on the motorway and from Wearside to Cambs used close to a full tank of fuel. So not impressed by the engine or mpg. The diesel drove better and for the price appeared to be worth the money. Shorter drive but I described it as doing what it said on the tin. All subjective but only one the correct side of acceptability for me.
 
Shows how different we all are. My mate has just got a petrol Dacia, previous car was a Volvo which he had owned for the last 20 years. One of the reasons he chose a Dacia was reliabllity. He is an AA man and sees which ones are more reliable and easier to work on. He seems happy with it.
 
When I did the daily checks on the lpg forklifts at work, I was always surprised at how clean the oil was on the dipstick.

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Ivory55 said:
Shows how different we all are. My mate has just got a petrol Dacia, previous car was a Volvo which he had owned for the last 20 years. One of the reasons he chose a Dacia was reliabllity. He is an AA man and sees which ones are more reliable and easier to work on. He seems happy with it.
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Exactly. I've had a diesel for 5 years. Never missed a beat, returning well over 60 mpg around town. Have had a 150TC Petrol on test for a week now. Returning better than 50mpg, and drives like a dream. The new engines are a vast improvement to the previous versions
 
Ivory55 said:
Shows how different we all are. My mate has just got a petrol Dacia, previous car was a Volvo which he had owned for the last 20 years. One of the reasons he chose a Dacia was reliabllity. He is an AA man and sees which ones are more reliable and easier to work on. He seems happy with it.
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Yes when I got another car a few months ago an AA man I know said get a small petrol engine not a modern Diesel, petrol are much more reliable. He was sick of getting called out to diesel cars.
 
rickwiggans said:
Interested in what makes you say that about the petrol version. I'm looking at getting one.
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I don’t know much about the engines, but the quality of the body paint ain’t up to much, our company has repaired a number of Dacia’s with peeling paint and even premature rusting. There again they are a cheap car to buy so perhaps I’m being a little unfair.
 
Brains said:
The Italians (and others) have been promoting LPG as the 'new fuel' since the the 1980's !
The UK has never made it (tax-ably) the way to go.
In the UK, Electricity is seen as the 'new fuel'

However, most the rest of Europe is liable to head toward LPG, as electricity only works for those that have the ability to product electricity for "free."

The countries that have the ability (but not necessarily the wherewithal) to produce 'free' electricity are;
  • Norway (Hydropower)
  • Eastern England (Offshore Wind Turbines)
  • Western Denmark (Offshore Wind Turbines)
  • Top left area of Germany (Offshore Wind Turbines)
  • Netherlands (Onshore and Offshore Wind Turbines)
errrrr, that's it.
LPG is the future for the rest
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The U.K. Is reputed to be the largest producer of wind generated electricity and getting larger with the North Sea coastal stations among others which are land based
 
Ian Bosman said:
By the way, did you see that we have now gone for several weeks without coal-fired generated electricity which is being phased out.
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But they are turning over. If they don’t the crank bends under its own weight so they keep it turning.
 
rickwiggans said:
Interested in what makes you say that about the petrol version. I'm looking at getting one.
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I lived and worked in Romania for 4 years and would not recommend buying a Dacia at any price. They are poorly built and the quality control is virtually nonexistent.
 
I think my mates decision was price, reliability, easy to work on , less prone to theft when living in London. He did admit to fancying a rs fiesta, but thought would it still be outside his house in the morning. He does look after his cars so be interesting to see how long he gets out of it.
 
Hard to see LPG as a long term solution. Anything that’s only marginally less polluting, isn’t going to cut it.

Battery power will help improve emissions but also not long term solution.....the only tech I’ve seen that seems to solve most of our challenges is hydrogen fuel cell produced from renewable electricity.
 

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