D2, D4 and deflated, I realise this has been covered by numerous threads but..

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...It's coming up to 90 days before my big 70 b'day and I need to retain my C1 entitlement to drive our van. Reading threads on here about the severe delays on processing applications by DVLA it's putting the e-b-g-e-bies (excuse spelling!) up me as it's now my turn to apply. So, just a couple of questions if anyone can help please:
1. I read that an on-line application is probably quicker than postal, BUT it says the D4 must be submitted by post (?). So, is it possible to submit the D2 on-line and submit the D4 by post? Will they ever be reunited in the DVLA? Or is it best to submit both, together, by post?
2. Has ANYONE actually had a good experience in a quick turnaround of renewal application of D2 and D4??
Thanks
 
If you’re normally healthy it should be a standard renewal. I’m just gone sixty but have had five yearly renewals since 45 for HGV licences. I don’t have any health problems ( not seen my doctor since 1962) so didn’t need any form filling re health. My last renewal took 9 days of which two were weekend days. It seems to be only the ones with health problems having long renewal times.
 
glenn2926 said:
If you’re normally healthy it should be a standard renewal. I’m just gone sixty but have had five yearly renewals since 45 for HGV licences. I don’t have any health problems ( not seen my doctor since 1962) so didn’t need any form filling re health. My last renewal took 9 days of which two were weekend days. It seems to be only the ones with health problems having long renewal times.
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A bit different when you turn 70 though.
Enjoy your C1 while you can.
 
johnandi said:
1. I read that an on-line application is probably quicker than postal, BUT it says the D4 must be submitted by post (?). So, is it possible to submit the D2 on-line and submit the D4 by post? Will they ever be reunited in the DVLA? Or is it best to submit both, together, by post?
2. Has ANYONE actually had a good experience in a quick turnaround of renewal application of D2 and D4??
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1. On-line application is quicker and easier, BUT you lose the C1 entitlement. So that's no good to you.
The D4 must be signed by a doctor, and needs a fairly simple eye test that most doctors would be able to do. Either your GP or one of those specialist driver doctors like D4Drivers. They will also do the eye test if you want.

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If you take blood pressure tablets, they will take your blood pressure, but will also need some recent blood pressure readings (in the last week or month, maybe). If you have a medical condition that doesn't affect your driving ability, you may need the name and address of the consultant who knows your condition and can verify you are OK to drive.

I went to an optician just as I was doing this process, and after he did the eye test he was happy to fill in the relevant section of the form. But that's not necessary, just saves the doctor having to do the eye test.

2. About March last year, my renewal took about three weeks, no problems. I noticed that various DVLA departments seem to have their own separate postcode, so I was careful to use the exact postcode on the form. Don't know if that made any difference.

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A bit optimistic about GP doing eye tests? - certainly my GP practice don’t, and I had to do sight test separately at optician. My understanding is that relatively few GP practices do the sight test, although I believe D4Drivers do offer sight tests.
 
Without health issues my C1 was renewed in three weeks last November. From what I read failing to complete the D2/4 forms correctly will also slow the process. We used one of the specialist companies to do the medical etc, they also check the forms for you, so money well spent in my view.
 
Crazylegs said:
Without health issues my C1 was renewed in three weeks last November. From what I read failing to complete the D2/4 forms correctly will also slow the process. We used one of the specialist companies to do the medical etc, they also check the forms for you, so money well spent in my view.
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I used one of the specialist medical companies for my last HGV medical. It cost £40, cash only no change given. They had the forms pre populated with all relevant sections completed, just added the clients name which was me and handed it to me. I posted it off and no problem what so ever. New C+E arrived promptly.
I think one part of what they do, namely the medical isn’t as in depth as using ones own GP but knowing how and which sections of the forms to fill in correctly is worth the money alone.
 
autorouter said:
1. On-line application is quicker and easier, BUT you lose the C1 entitlement. So that's no good to you.
The D4 must be signed by a doctor, and needs a fairly simple eye test that most doctors would be able to do. Either your GP or one of those specialist driver doctors like D4Drivers. They will also do the eye test if you want.

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If you take blood pressure tablets, they will take your blood pressure, but will also need some recent blood pressure readings (in the last week or month, maybe). If you have a medical condition that doesn't affect your driving ability, you may need the name and address of the consultant who knows your condition and can verify you are OK to drive.

I went to an optician just as I was doing this process, and after he did the eye test he was happy to fill in the relevant section of the form. But that's not necessary, just saves the doctor having to do the eye test.

2. About March last year, my renewal took about three weeks, no problems. I noticed that various DVLA departments seem to have their own separate postcode, so I was careful to use the exact postcode on the form. Don't know if that made any difference.
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Thanks Autorouter. I'm actually booked in tomorrow with D4Drivers for the medical. We have a blood pressure monitor at home so will get a reading this morning - it may help.
So it looks like I need to do a postal application cos of the D4. I'll check on the postcodes as well and just hope for the best.
 
Crazylegs said:
Without health issues my C1 was renewed in three weeks last November. From what I read failing to complete the D2/4 forms correctly will also slow the process. We used one of the specialist companies to do the medical etc, they also check the forms for you, so money well spent in my view.
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Thanks Crazylegs, hopefully the D4Drivers doctor will help at the medical tomorrow. I've also booked an eye test for next week.

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glenn2926 said:
I used one of the specialist medical companies for my last HGV medical. It cost £40, cash only no change given. They had the forms pre populated with all relevant sections completed, just added the clients name which was me and handed it to me. I posted it off and no problem what so ever. New C+E arrived promptly.
I think one part of what they do, namely the medical isn’t as in depth as using ones own GP but knowing how and which sections of the forms to fill in correctly is worth the money alone.
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Yes, I'm hoping that they can/will help with the form filling. As JimboHorlicks mentioned though it's possibly different coming up to 70 but I suppose it's all down to the individual and any health issues.
 
Jimbohorlicks said:
If you have no medical issues then the turn around time is reasonably quick.
If you have had prior medical issues then it's a nightmare and anyone's guess when you get your licence.
Ps
Thats if you ever get a C1
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I put my application in beginning of December, no medical issues, no medication, licence expired 3rd January, still waiting, I have confirmation they have received it, but when I will get it God knows :rolleyes:
 
glenn2926 said:
If you’re normally healthy it should be a standard renewal. I’m just gone sixty but have had five yearly renewals since 45 for HGV licences. I don’t have any health problems ( not seen my doctor since 1962) so didn’t need any form filling re health. My last renewal took 9 days of which two were weekend days. It seems to be only the ones with health problems having long renewal times.
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I think HGV licences get processed quicker that C1 renewal, or it would seem so by that time scale.
 
johnandi said:
We have a blood pressure monitor at home so will get a reading this morning - it may help.
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If you are on blood pressure medication you'll need more than one. It's on the form somewhere, I think it was three or five, maybe. It doesn't say anything definite about the time spacing, so maybe you could take several with a few hours in between, that might be OK.

Once you have the application sent in to DVLA, you can continue to drive after your old licence expires, assuming you don't have a medical condition that would stop you from driving.
 
golly said:
I put my application in beginning of December, no medical issues, no medication, licence expired 3rd January, still waiting, I have confirmation they have received it, but when I will get it God knows :rolleyes:
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Yeah, worrying! Are you still allowed to drive or do you have to wait?

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Mine is coming up for seven months since applying. I do have medical issues though nothing that effects driving. I have downsized mh and will just apply online next time.
 
golly said:
I think HGV licences get processed quicker that C1 renewal, or it would seem so by that time scale.
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That is my understanding too John. I posted my D2 & D4 together, (with no medical issues), on 20th December. The new C+E & D+E was issued on 6th January, and arrived on the 11th. (y)

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
On a side issue - I posted my D4 and D2 on Saturday, it was received Monday 24 January. Do you get any acknowledgement of receipt , tracking no etc?

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johnandi said:
Thanks Crazylegs, hopefully the D4Drivers doctor will help at the medical tomorrow. I've also booked an eye test for next week.
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The D4 drivers doctor also does the eye test, if you have no eye issues it's just a matter of reading down an eye chart.
It's not the full spec savers type eye test. (y)
 
Reallyretired said:
Mine is coming up for seven months since applying. I do have medical issues though nothing that effects driving. I have downsized mh and will just apply online next time.
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Blimey, that's scary. I hope you get it sorted soon. Good luck
 
JockandRita said:
That is my understanding too John. I posted my D2 & D4 together, (with no medical issues), on 20th December. The new C+E & D+E was issued on 6th January, and arrived on the 11th. (y)

Cheers,

Jock. :)
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Well that at least is encouraging.
 
I've read in the blurb that I need to send in my current photo driving licence with the D2/D4 application. That'll be a nuisance cos I'll probably need it when/if we go abroad before the new licence arrives. Is there a way to retain the old licence anyone know?
 
glenn2926 said:
If you’re normally healthy it should be a standard renewal. I’m just gone sixty but have had five yearly renewals since 45 for HGV licences. I don’t have any health problems ( not seen my doctor since 1962) so didn’t need any form filling re health. My last renewal took 9 days of which two were weekend days. It seems to be only the ones with health problems having long renewal times.
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? 1962 -2022, you really are fit, you've barely seen a Doctor since you were born. I'm a similar age, and my body is now in revolt and there's a competition to see who can give up next. Currently, it's bloody chilblains making even walking a painful experience. Seems harsh payback for being an outdoors type person all my life, but hey ho. I just need to convince the other half that in the south med all my issues would not be a problem.
Mike.

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johnandi said:
I've read in the blurb that I need to send in my current photo driving licence with the D2/D4 application. That'll be a nuisance cos I'll probably need it when/if we go abroad before the new licence arrives. Is there a way to retain the old licence anyone know?
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If you haven't recieved your new licence by your 70th birthday you cannot drive abroad! You can however keep driving in the UK under section 88

 
BouncyBoatFolk said:
? 1962 -2022, you really are fit, you've barely seen a Doctor since you were born. I'm a similar age, and my body is now in revolt and there's a competition to see who can give up next. Currently, it's bloody chilblains making even walking a painful experience. Seems harsh payback for being an outdoors type person all my life, but hey ho. I just need to convince the other half that in the south med all my issues would not be a problem.
Mike.
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I’ve not needed to see my GP. A+E, well that’s a different story. Stitches, splints, Xrays, dressings. There’s been a few of these types of incidents.
I’ve only ever had one prescription written for me and I didn’t bother getting it made up. It was for strong pain killers after having my wisdom teeth out (1979 I think) but we were going climbing that weekend and that usually involved quite a bit of drinking. The pain killers would have stopped that. Hence not bothering with them.
 
johnandi said:
I've read in the blurb that I need to send in my current photo driving licence with the D2/D4 application. That'll be a nuisance cos I'll probably need it when/if we go abroad before the new licence arrives. Is there a way to retain the old licence anyone know?
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I didn't send mine back with the renewal application, as needed for employer's security checks, (as annotated on the application), but there is a requirement upon receiving the new licence, to cut the old one in half, and return to DVLA.

HTH,

Jock. :)
 
First time john renewed it was a faff due to DVLA changing how they wanted CPAP readings to be recorded And hospital not filling in the required forms.We had a 4 toner, so I did all the driving till he got it sorted.
Next time both needed to renew, I chose to have my eye test done and recorded at spec savers, the DVLA preferred optician, as that was the one thing i thought might cause a problem, although I do have other health issues. Both returned within 10 days, but this was pre Covid. Both due to renew in January, now have 3.5 van John isn’t going to bother, as yet i am undecided.
 
I am now out of the DVLA renewal system as I now have a Polish licence, but still have a UK one because it was running out and I applied to renew my C1, just in case I did not get the Polish one for any reason.

I got the Polish licence and a few days later the UK one arrived and I am going to hang onto it.

The Polish initial C1 medical involves a long psychiatric test, but the rest of the medical is very basic. The renewal, which is every 5 years, instead of UK 3 years, does not need the psychiatric test, so should be quite easy - I hope so, since I will be 84 at the next one.

I am also out of the DVLA 'madhouse' for the MH, which is now registered as a Polish 'veteran' vehicle - only way to get RHD over 3.5t registered, and as yet no vehicle age requirements, and no 'MOT' renewal required. I know sounds crazy, but I am complying with all legislation.

Geoff

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