Could this mean the end of motorhoming?

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As soon as I started to take a look I was bombarded by advertising and rubbish. I switched off and can’t read what it says.
Presumably all diesel engines will be banned. Lorries, delivery vans, etc. We’re all doomed. Don’t you just love the scaremongering media sbags
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Sorry about the poor link. maybe Google the New Euro 7 emissions regulations. Might say more there.

Basically, more strict emissions rules are coming that could fail the MOT for millions of vehicles.
 
Can't read the article however, if dealing with climate change, pollution, and other environmental factors is to be a reality, major changes in the Western lifestyle to use less, consume less, make less is required. If carbon zero and other measures are to be implemented travel for leisure must be one of the targets.

Meanwhile in London the ULEZ is to be extended next August from the inner boroughs to the entire Greater London Borough areas. That is going to finish off anything less than a Euro 6 Diesel car, van or motorhome.
 
I think this is the Telegraph article hosted on MSN:

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steve69 said:
Sorry about the poor link. maybe Google the New Euro 7 emissions regulations. Might say more there.

Basically, more strict emissions rules are coming that could fail the MOT for millions of vehicles.
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I thought that as long as the vehicle meets the emissions that were in place when it was built it passes, !!
 
joe and sue said:
I thought that as long as the vehicle meets the emissions that were in place when it was built it passes, !!
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So did I !
Otherwise there will be a lot of scrap about.
The biggest issue for most of us would be greater implementation of LEZ’s and upping the cost of access or preventing access.
 
All the more incentive for manufacturers to cheat to meet EURO 7 requirements? If the major European car makers shut down their ICE factories, the Chinese and Indian manufacturers will still make them for the developing countries where the infrastructure for EVs is almost non-existent and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Whatever happens, the demand for diesel HGVs will continue because there is no viable EV alternative for big trucks. It only seems to work for smaller EV vans. Maybe using hydrogen fueled engines for HGVs instead, but that is still a long way off even in the West.

The never-ending war on older vehicles probably involves making petrol and diesel fuel even more expensive, and as has been said, extending LEZ and CAZ restrictions. Scrappage payments might also be on the cards. There are still 33 million ICE cars on the UK's roads.

The Green zealots will never give up until the last Ferrari V8 is turned into baked bean cans. :mad:

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What will happen when the deadline looms for diesels and the MH manufacturers are still quoting 1 year for delivery?

Will they be able to register the chassis on arrival at the factory prior to the deadline and deliver the MH after the deadline?

Of course the legislation has not been drafted yet, so the legislators have not had to think the details through.
 
joe and sue said:
I thought that as long as the vehicle meets the emissions that were in place when it was built it passes, !!
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That is the case and I cannot see it changing. I can buy a 1950's car now and drive it. No MOT, no seat belts, no tax. It can pollute as much as it likes legally. It just means we need to keep our motorhomes longer, maintain them, look after them. And they will rise in value.
 
Given the planned ban on new ICE by 2030 - i guess a lot of manufacturers won’t bother developing Euro7 motors
 
I liked this bit :unsure:

“Euro 7 proposals will result in very specific cars for Europe which you won’t be able to use across the globe,” said one engineer, citing the example of a car which hasn’t got the right fuel or isn’t able to update itself and which simply shuts itself down and refuses to start.

And it says,

"For a start, fuel standards in the developing world aren’t as high as those in Europe and using low-quality fuels will quickly damage a Euro 7-compliant engine. And the real time, over-the-air reporting of emissions required by Euro 7 will be difficult to implement in less developed countries where the internet and bureaucracy aren’t as advanced".
 
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funflair said:
I liked this bit :unsure:

“Euro 7 proposals will result in very specific cars for Europe which you won’t be able to use across the globe,” said one engineer, citing the example of a car which hasn’t got the right fuel or isn’t able to update itself and which simply shuts itself down and refuses to start.

And it says,

"For a start, fuel standards in the developing world aren’t as high as those in Europe and using low-quality fuels will quickly damage a Euro 7-compliant engine. And the real time, over-the-air reporting of emissions required by Euro 7 will be difficult to implement in less developed countries where the internet and bureaucracy aren’t as advanced".
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Isn't it the case already that emissions requirements in the US Europe and Japan etc are totally different to the developing world. That doesn't mean we ought to adopt developing world standards

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nicholsong said:
What will happen when the deadline looms for diesels and the MH manufacturers are still quoting 1 year for delivery?

Will they be able to register the chassis on arrival at the factory prior to the deadline and deliver the MH after the deadline?

Of course the legislation has not been drafted yet, so the legislators have not had to think the details through.
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Evidence of “Thinking details through“ can be very difficult to find in many government initiatives
 
In the context of millions of motorist's potentially finding it very difficult to use their cars does anyone really think that the worries of a few motorhome owners are going to be listened to!
 
The Wino said:
In the context of millions of motorist's potentially finding it very difficult to use their cars does anyone really think that the worries of a few motorhome owners are going to be listened to!
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No, I think our vehicle chassis will be dictated by what happens in the Light Commercial sector, if small trucks are still able to move around we should be OK as well, and if small trucks can't move around we are all back to horse and cart anyway.
 
Just think of the impact on small or sole trader businesses, who all currently run transit / fiat courier cast offs.
If this was implemented badly It would likely kill many a sole trader off.
 
Ah, the great Climate Change myth, or should I say the Human influence on climate change. I once laughed at the conspiracy theorists and thought of them as madmen, not anymore, we are being sold a lie. At the end of the story, as with everything, MONEY. There are organisations making vast amounts of money on the back of saving the planet, without actually saving the planet.

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