Coronavirus Briefing at 11.00 am today

[Minxy]

Hubby's just told me that Prof Chris Whitty is giving a briefing at 11.00 am.

 

[Vic. Parsons.]

That should be...........interesting!

 

[MichaelT]

The man who so far has failed to predict anything correctly and who could not even wash his own hands and keep 2m apart without catching Covid mmm

 

[Lenny HB]

A convenient time when no one will be watching or listening.

 

[Spriddler]

That'll be as much help as a chocolate mask.

(It's not on Radio 4 at the moment).

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[The general]

The man who so far has failed to predict anything correctly and who could not even wash his own hands and keep 2m apart without catching Covid mmm

Very very unfair

 

[The general]

So so much negativity as usual

 

[MichaelT]

Very very unfair

I do not think so, he may be a bit cleverer than me and have more knowledge but he predicted that 20,000 deaths would be a bad outcome, over 50,000 later we still have people dying, he caught it and spread it, he stopped testing and track and tracing, he did not advocate quarantine in the early stages for travellers coming here.. He has lost all my faith in him I am afraid.

 

[Blue Knight]

Hubby's just told me that Prof Chris Whitty is giving a briefing at 11.00 am.

This must be the start of the 'build up' before everything gets shutdown in a few weeks.

 

[15edward]

You actually don’t know the detail advice he gave
and it was the government not him who made those decision

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[Two on Tour]

I do not think so, he may be a bit cleverer than me and have more knowledge but he predicted that 20,000 deaths would be a bad outcome, over 50,000 later we still have people dying, he caught it and spread it, he stopped testing and track and tracing, he did not advocate quarantine in the early stages for travellers coming here.. He has lost all my faith in him I am afraid.

So who are you actually talking about ?

 

[MichaelT]

You actually don’t know the detail advice he gave
and it was the government not him who made those decision

Agree but please don't get me started on on Boris and Hancock...

 

[MichaelT]

So who are you actually talking about ?

Prof Whitty

 

[Minxy]

Some info I've heard:

• Some of those who have been infected may have developed antibodies after infection (approx 8%, around 3 million) but are not likely to have them long term as they don't last and some people have got a second bought of CV.
• Testing itself isn't causing a reported increase in infection figures as they look at the overall percentage of those tested, ie 1 in 1000 is the same as 10 in 10000.
• The rate is increasing, with infections doubling approx every 7 days, the increase is highest in the 20-29 group although all groups have an increase.
• Daily infected cases per 100,000 (deaths are also increasing proportionately): Spain 300 (20% hospital admission), France 185 (21% hospital admission), UK 69.
• Approx 70,000 cases today in the UK.
• Inpatient cases have increased 4 fold since early August.
• It is a fine balancing act between meeting both health and economic needs.

4 main effects if rate keeps increasing:

• More direct Covid deaths
• NHS could become overwhelmed
• If NHS has to treat Covid cases due to high level of cases it will lead to a reduction in treatment/diagnosis for other illnesses
• Economic, social and mental health are affected.

4 things to be done:

• Reducing individual risk: wash hands, use masks, social distancing
• Isolate the virus: isolate if possibly exposed to virus or are known to have virus
• Break unnecessary links between households: reduce social contacts at home, work, social environments
• Science: invest in science, diagnostics, drugs etc

We have to learn to live with the virus, it isn't going to go away anytime soon.

 

[Minxy]

Oi! I started this thread to give INFO on what is being said today, not for you lot to have a debate about who you like/trust or not ... if you want to have a spat about 'personalities' go start your own thread and leave this one to give info to those who are interested.

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[63720]

I do not think so, he may be a bit cleverer than me and have more knowledge but he predicted that 20,000 deaths would be a bad outcome, over 50,000 later we still have people dying, he caught it and spread it, he stopped testing and track and tracing, he did not advocate quarantine in the early stages for travellers coming here.. He has lost all my faith in him I am afraid.

What do you suggest we do, as a country, to reduce the infection rates?

 

[Vanderek]

Oi! I started this thread to give INFO on what is being said today, not for you lot to have a debate about who you like/trust or not ... if you want to have a spat about 'personalities' go start your own thread and leave this one to give info to those who are interested.

Well said

 

[busby]

What do you suggest we do, as a country, to reduce the infection rates?

Take notice of what we are told to do..BUSBY.

 

[Tykatem]

I do not think so, he may be a bit cleverer than me and have more knowledge but he predicted that 20,000 deaths would be a bad outcome, over 50,000 later we still have people dying, he caught it and spread it, he stopped testing and track and tracing, he did not advocate quarantine in the early stages for travellers coming here.. He has lost all my faith in him I am afraid.

To be precise!.....................

On 17 March, Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's chief scientific adviser, said keeping the number of UK deaths below 20,000 would be a "good result" from the COVID-19 pandemic.

"If we can get this down to 20,000 and below, that is a good outcome in terms of where we would hope to get to with this outbreak," he told a committee of MPs.

Coronavirus: Experts once said 20,000 deaths was a 'good outcome' - so where is the UK headed now?

With the UK having passed the level that was previously considered a "good result" - how many deaths could there now be?

news.sky.com

Total deaths from covid.......... 41,777 and NOT over 50,000!

UKHSA data dashboard

Showing public health data across England

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

Pete

 

[Two on Tour]

He has lost all my faith in him I am afraid.

He must be gutted.

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[SHABBINS]

Oi! I started this thread to give INFO on what is being said today, not for you lot to have a debate about who you like/trust or not ... if you want to have a spat about 'personalities' go start your own thread and leave this one to give info to those who are interested.

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[MichaelT]

To be precise!.....................

On 17 March, Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's chief scientific adviser, said keeping the number of UK deaths below 20,000 would be a "good result" from the COVID-19 pandemic.

"If we can get this down to 20,000 and below, that is a good outcome in terms of where we would hope to get to with this outbreak," he told a committee of MPs.

Coronavirus: Experts once said 20,000 deaths was a 'good outcome' - so where is the UK headed now?

With the UK having passed the level that was previously considered a "good result" - how many deaths could there now be?

news.sky.com

Total deaths from covid.......... 41,777 and NOT over 50,000!

UKHSA data dashboard

Showing public health data across England

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

Pete

The figure you quoted is after they fiddled the figures, if they used the original method of reporting there would be another 5-6k deaths...

 

[Wissel]

I got the feeling that todays presentation was more of a warm-up for tomorrows (Boris).

Wouldn't be surprised if far tougher measures were announced then

Also, isn't the tracking app meant to be released this week?
I wonder how many will download, now they are fining people for not being where they should be?

 

[kevenh]

...after they fiddled the figures...

You mean stopped counting an RTA as a COVID death if the car crash happened within 30days of a positive covid test?

 

[MichaelT]

What do you suggest we do, as a country, to reduce the infection rates?

Perhaps see what Germany have done for starters, clear instructions, masks mandatory indoors, testing capacity and tracing etc. But I am not an expert all I said was I lost faith in him as someone to listen to based on hos track record not that I know better....

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[MichaelT]

You mean stopped counting an RTA as a COVID death if the car crash happened within 30days of a positive covid test?

I guess so but I have always said majority have died with it not of it....

 

[dryad]

Hubby's just told me that Prof Chris Whitty is giving a briefing at 11.00 am.

sod it, have missed it..

 

[kevenh]

sod it, have missed it..

fwiw The BBC tracked it & summarised it here

 

[Vic. Parsons.]

sod it, have missed it..

Don't Worry, I'm sure that such an important announcement will be repeated several times on the news along with the equally important weather forecast.

 

[buttons]

I do not think so, he may be a bit cleverer than me and have more knowledge but he predicted that 20,000 deaths would be a bad outcome, over 50,000 later we still have people dying, he caught it and spread it, he stopped testing and track and tracing, he did not advocate quarantine in the early stages for travellers coming here.. He has lost all my faith in him I am afraid.

How about a few of your own ideas with detail how you would implement them. A bit less criticism and a few more of your resolutions would be a step in the right direction. Boris will be broadcasting his intensions live tomorrow, what would you like him to say???.

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