Checking out shell V Power diesel.

Cliffdale

Cliffdale

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I'm very conscientious about fuel consumption. Every time I fill up I check the mile per gallon I achieved.

So my monster mostly gets me 22mpg. Various conditions, but mostly dual carriage way and tend to stick to 60mph, but plenty of town driving mixed in.

I thought I would try the Shell V power and this is my findings on one test run only!

I filled up in Guildford with Shell V premium and paid £1.42 per litre. Next fill up was 329 miles later.

I averaged 26mpg on this fuel so 4mpg better off.

The fill up at Tesco was 56.94 litres costing £1.299 p/ litre total £73.97

My math stands to be corrected but I worked out
Shell V Power cost me £80.85 to travel 329 miles
Tesco Fuel costs me £86.60 to travel 329 miles. (£73.97/281*329).

Now Im going to burn off the Tesco fuel and re fill with V Power and see how the results match.

Cliff
 
We always use Shell V Power diesel - more mpg offsets costs & engine pulls a little better & runs cleaner. The difference is not as significantly noticeable with newer engines but a lot on our old diesel car.
 
We use Supermarket fuel and I get 27-32mpg I did notice when we filled up with French supermarket fuel I got 29-37mpg

AND as we had my wife's little car Meganne (1.5dci ) with us her fuel consumption was 66mpg whereas with UK supermarket fuel she gets around 50mpg

And we were travelling at whatever was the legal speeds for us to travel to be honest is £6 saving enough ??
 
Never buy supermarket fuel...it’s rubbish.
 
I have a newish Golf 155hp diesel car. I tried V Power Diesel but it made no differnce in fuel consumption! I think its because its a highly tuned high performance engine. The van is very low revving compared to the Golf, so I think the more expensive fuel is better suited to slower revving engines, (imho).

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We put in a tank full of V power on every fifth fill, or thereabouts, but use Shell or BP or Esso ordinary diesel on the other 4 fills.
 
Fletton said:
An urban myth.... Bro-in-law is a tanker driver... had that discussion ... it all comes out of the same pot.. (y)
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Yes it does, but branded basic fuel has additives put in when being loaded, but supermarket diesel doesn’t. That info also came from a tanker driver
 
I bet a lot just use the supermarket as it’s convenient when shopping not just the price. We just fill the car up when shopping, saves me stopping on the way home from work etc.
 
Steve devon said:
Yes it does, but branded basic fuel has additives put in when being loaded, but supermarket diesel doesn’t. That info also came from a tanker driver
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Almost right - all fuel has additives but the branded stuff has literally a few parts per million of whatever the latest marketing wheeze decides (“up to” 20 miles per tankful ). Super fuels are really good though but not for everyone
 
I had a Mercedes 270 cdi estate a few years ago, I was travelling mega miles at the time & the car averaged 52mpg which I think is good for a 5 cylinder diesel that tended to be heavily laden.
Every now & then the mileage would drop to 42mpg? I kept thinking there was a sticking brake caliper & lost count of how often I'd pulled the brakes apart & found nothing wrong.
Anyway we were shopping in Tesco's & at that time they were doing a fuel deal. So voucher in hand I fill the car to the neck & set off, back to 42mpg argghhhh.
This time I left the brakes alone & next time filled the car with fuel from our local filling station instead, instantly back up to 52mpg!
Everyone I spoke to about this issue claimed that because the fuel all comes from one refinery it couldn't be the fault of the supermarket fuel.
I had a word with the local tanker delivery guy who told me that additives were added by the various companies but none were added by the supermarkets. Supermarkets also bought the fuel from the bottom of the huge tanks that would normally be refined again.

Other folks might have other views, but my research was based on my mileage findings.
Incidentally there was no noticeable drop in performance & no more noise using supermarket fuel.

Robert.
 
I filled up at Asda on Saturday at £1.23.7 On Sunday on the A1 it was 1.37.9 at BP no way I will pay 14ppl more
My 3 litre engine is smooth as silk and still gives well over 25mpg at over 4 ton
 
I haven't noticed any difference in mpg (14) , whatever diesel I put in , and it gets thru enough of it to show up . Plus used to own a petrol station , and back up what @Fletton posted , have even seen them add the "magic ingredients" depending what "outlet" they were delivering to .

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ambulancekidd said:
I had a Mercedes 270 cdi estate a few years ago, I was travelling mega miles at the time & the car averaged 52mpg which I think is good for a 5 cylinder diesel that tended to be heavily laden.
Every now & then the mileage would drop to 42mpg? I kept thinking there was a sticking brake caliper & lost count of how often I'd pulled the brakes apart & found nothing wrong.
Anyway we were shopping in Tesco's & at that time they were doing a fuel deal. So voucher in hand I fill the car to the neck & set off, back to 42mpg argghhhh.
This time I left the brakes alone & next time filled the car with fuel from our local filling station instead, instantly back up to 52mpg!
Everyone I spoke to about this issue claimed that because the fuel all comes from one refinery it couldn't be the fault of the supermarket fuel.
I had a word with the local tanker delivery guy who told me that additives were added by the various companies but none were added by the supermarkets. Supermarkets also bought the fuel from the bottom of the huge tanks that would normally be refined again.

Other folks might have other views, but my research was based on my mileage findings.
Incidentally there was no noticeable drop in performance & no more noise using supermarket fuel.

Robert.
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My job for 31 years was fuels and fuel quality....... each is different but the fuels are substantially the same blend, branded or unbranded :restmycase:
 
DuxDeluxe said:
Nice try at :reel:

I assume that if you aren’t joking then you have facts to back up that statement........
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Facts! Facts! Never let facts get in the way of popcorn.;)
Several years ago I had two cars buggered up by Tesco fuel. One cost £250 to put right. Try to avoid it now.
 
Steve devon said:
Yes it does, but branded basic fuel has additives put in when being loaded, but supermarket diesel doesn’t. That info also came from a tanker driver
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@Steve devon ... Yes ... this I know... but my point was ... it’s all the same.... insofar as basic diesel is “diesel”... additives could be (and are) another subjective discussion... (y):whistle:
 
Podney said:
Facts! Facts! Never let facts get in the way of popcorn.;)
Several years ago I had two cars buggered up by Tesco fuel. One cost £250 to put right. Try to avoid it now.
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That was probably the human error incident when diesel anti foaming additive was mistakenly injected into a few thousand tonnes of gasoline which knackered the oxygen sensors of a lot of cars. It was an isolated incident and nothing to do whatsoever with Tesco but more to do with the storage facility which was neither owned nor operated by the supermarkets - a lot of independents were affected as well as some Asda and Morrisons stations. I was involved in the testing for that...........

If you had to pay for the damage to the vehicles caused by that fuel batch then you were robbed as everyone else was compensated as far as I know, including my brothers two vehicles
 
Fletton said:
An urban myth.... Bro-in-law is a tanker driver... had that discussion ... it all comes out of the same pot.. (y)
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Sorry completely uninformed that is.....

I’ve done along with a car forum and along with others done exhaustive testing on the difference between quality fuels and supermarket carp.

The fuel comes from the same pot but it’s the additives that make the rather huge difference.

Fuels are quite simply not equal and I guarantee that quality fuel pays dividends not only in MPG and better running but the cleanliness of your very expensive DPFs.

Personally I buy pump fuel and add my own additives in the form of Millers diesel treatment. Half’s the extra premium over buying top fuels with best results.

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Charlie said:
Sorry completely uninformed that is.....

I’ve done along with a car forum and along with others done exhaustive testing on the difference between quality fuels and supermarket carp.

The fuel comes from the same pot but it’s the additives that make the rather huge difference.

Fuels are quite simply not equal and I guarantee that quality fuel pays dividends not only in MPG and better running but the cleanliness of your very expensive DPFs.

Personally I buy pump fuel and add my own additives in the form of Millers diesel treatment. Half’s the extra premium over buying top fuels with best results.
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That is funny..... so have I. In a specialised fuel testing laboratory with several hundred thousands of dollars worth of equipment designed for that very purpose. I still rest my case
 
Charlie said:
Sorry completely uninformed that is.....

I’ve done along with a car forum and along with others done exhaustive testing on the difference between quality fuels and supermarket carp.

The fuel comes from the same pot but it’s the additives that make the rather huge difference.

Fuels are quite simply not equal and I guarantee that quality fuel pays dividends not only in MPG and better running but the cleanliness of your very expensive DPFs.

Personally I buy pump fuel and add my own additives in the form of Millers diesel treatment. Half’s the extra premium over buying top fuels with best results.
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@Charlie ... See my post... about two (or maybe three up) from this... (y)
 
My mate knew a chap who used to run his car on water , and just used an additive , but it was bought by one of the big petrol companies , and never got into production :rolleyes:
 
I would not be clever enough to do all the maths to work out which was the cheapest anyway. Haha

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Like many things in life persons will typically arrive at choice by personal experience.

Being mindful of many authoritive org's stating the facts are x; however, on occasion they have =y, e.g.:

- beef is safe to eat; and I will demonstrate this by stuffing a burger in my childs mouth
- x food will give you cancer
- x drink will stop you having a heart attack
- x drug will stop stuff; oops we forgot to tell you about the side effects (who had lots of millions to source facts).

Hence, perosns will always do personal testing and if they get 'what they think is the right result' their choice is made.....look at politics :)
 
I have done around 70,000 miles in my Berlingo 1.9D van in the last three years and it always has given 10 miles per litre give or take about 5% over 400 to 450 miles. Always 10 miles per litre give or take 5% since I've had it and it has gone through two controle techniques and had a full set of brakes a year back so there is no problem there.

Last week I filled up and continued on my Mole Patrol and have noticed that the needle seemed a little sluggish going down the dial. Normally I'll get 300 - 315 miles to half way, today it was around 420 miles when the needle reached half way. I've never gone over 520 miles on a tank full and the warning light comes on around 470 miles. Today I was on 570 miles without a warning light. The refill only took took 50 litres. It is really strange as I've done nothing unusual to enhance the MPG and even used it to pull the trailer on two short journeys.

I have absolutely no idea why the Blingo has become more frugal. But I am grateful. :D
 
Standard fuel (non supermarket if possible) for me, I add an additive 'Diesel Rhino' which is a cetane improver (like Millers ecoboost and the premium diesels) has lubricant and injector cleaner too. Diesels are dirty engines and need to be thrashed from time to time especially those with a diesel particulate filter fitted (the italian tune-up).
 
I use chip oil:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
DuxDeluxe said:
That is funny..... so have I. In a specialised fuel testing laboratory with several hundred thousands of dollars worth of equipment designed for that very purpose. I still rest my case
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I hate to disagree with you because I am fully aware that you are a very astute fella and one I have respect for....

I lived in Scotland for a few years. I drove up and down from just above Edinburgh to the Midlands two or three times a month. I tried supermarket fuel and V power and to cut it short Vpower simply came out tops every time. Same trip same car same driving style I even travelled at the same time of the day.....

I’m talking real world driving under real world conditions and very accurate recording of miles driven and fuel used. I did the brim to brim for calculations never the cars computers....

Sorry again to disagree but it genuinely worked out better.

Them of course the cleaner burn means cleaner DPF and EGR valves.

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