Chassis upgrade for Burstner?

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timontrak

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Hi everyone. Would very much appreciate your advice. Am considering buying a Burstner Lyseo Harmony TD 728G. Gross weight is 3850, with theoretical payload of 755. We tend to pack a lot of kit when travelling, inc. drive-away awning, two electric bikes, large barbecue etc.

Am therefore considering upgrade to the maxi chassis at 4250 gross weight. Does anyone have views on the pros and cons of doing this?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers - Tim
 
Is that a viable thing to do? Don’t know if it would be possible probably easier and cheaper to change the van(y)(y)(y) or are you buying brand new? If so go for heavier as long as your licence covers you.


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Thanks Alan - yes, this is buying new. Do you feel 755 payload gets gobbled up pretty quickly? Our current van (Knaus) had 390 payload, which is quite limiting.
 
755kg is as big a payload as i have seen on most motorhomes...

is it a delivery option for the 4250 chassis or is it an after market change?
 
Our payload after upgrade is 1650kgs. Hobby 750.

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We have a Hymer B678DL 4500kg with sat dish two leisure batteries two solar panels, full air suspension,tow bar twin full 11kg refillable gas spare wheel.full 160ltr water tank, full fuel tank.
Fully loaded for four months away with Kampa inflatable awning the missus and two dogs
4300 kg.
Hope that’s helpful(y)(y)(y)
 
Phill D said:
755kg is as big a payload as i have seen on most motorhomes...

is it a delivery option for the 4250 chassis or is it an after market change?
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Hi Phill - it's a delivery option. As I understand it, it's having the 'maxi' version of the Fiat chassis.
 
Phill D said:
755kg is as big a payload as i have seen on most motorhomes
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IMO you need 700 kg payload for two people to run comfortably within the limits. Don't forget you loose around 200kg to options.

Our van has a payload of over 1350 kg in standard form it has not been upgraded.
Like Alan's our is a Hymer B677DL, fully loaded Inc e-bikes, washing machine etc., full tanks we still have 400-500 kg spare.

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ok. being a factory conversion probably makes it a good option. particularly if you are questioning the available payload before getting it. you'd be kicking yourself later if you needed it.
 
At 4250 instead of 3850 means no difference in license, road tax or speed limits etc.
So if buying new then why not and have the extra payload (y)
 
bonus side is cheaper road tax at £165 for private hgv

down side lower speed limits
higher toll charges on the continent
hassle over 70 to keep C1 entitlement
no c1 if you are insulin dependant or some other medical issues
 
Getting a 4500 kg van with a decent payload is one of the best thing we did. Never have worry about loading or axle weights.

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TheBig1 said:
bonus side is cheaper road tax at £165 for private hgv

down side lower speed limits
higher toll charges on the continent
hassle over 70 to keep C1 entitlement
no c1 if you are insulin dependant or some other medical issues
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Road tax is same price £165 both PHGV
 
timontrak said:
Hi Phill - it's a delivery option. As I understand it, it's having the 'maxi' version of the Fiat chassis.
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Definitely upgrade if you can to the Maxi heavy chassis ... it's a much better one than the smaller/light version, one obvious benefit is disk brakes all round, rather than disc on the front and drum on the back (unless they've changed the spec since I last looked for the light chassis), also 16" wheels on the heavy chassis too, much better to upgrade now than find you struggle to keep within the 3850 as to uprate the chassis then would be a costly option due to mods needed, if indeed it was possible which it might not be.
 
We have a Burstner Harmony 728G at 3850. Also carry 2 e-bikes and proverbial "kitchen sink".
Consequently find we have to manage load to keep under the weight, which on one hand is good 'cos really its quite enough, on other hand always want to take more!
We have added, E P levelling system, 2nd leisure battery and spare wheel + tyre. Also fitted air springs on rear which does improve stability in cross winds. That lot is just over 100.
Cannot comment on the 4250 but if as someone else posted earlier it has disc brakes all round - thats got to be good along with more relaxed packing, particularly booze coming back from Continent.
Enjoy the M/H.
 
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Go for the bigger one. Better to have more than you need than not enough. You will be surprised how the small payload soon goes with awning, sat dish, chairs windbreak etc etc.(y)
 
timontrak said:
Hi everyone. Would very much appreciate your advice. Am considering buying a Burstner Lyseo Harmony TD 728G. Gross weight is 3850, with theoretical payload of 755. We tend to pack a lot of kit when travelling, inc. drive-away awning, two electric bikes, large barbecue etc.

Am therefore considering upgrade to the maxi chassis at 4250 gross weight. Does anyone have views on the pros and cons of doing this?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers - Tim
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:welcome3: We have approx 700kg of payload after upgrading to 3850kg immediately after purchase. Although sufficient for us, it would be easy to go over that, especially if usage is higher than ours (still working). If the 4250kg option was available on my van, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. Good luck (y)

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