charging electric car from pitch ?

[sparkyvanman]

We are on a site today in Northumberland . The guy on the next pitch has his electric Volvo plugged into the vacant pitch next to him . How can sites stand the cost of charging electric cars ? . Very cheeky using a vacant pitch to charge his car . I guess he can’t use the supply on his pitch as he will be using all the power to heat his caravan . What makes it worse is the site is giving a free night for booking two nights .

 

[gus-lopez]

I'd be complaining both to him & the management & unplugging it.

 

[Ninjabob]

Bet the site owners would be be delighted

 

[Otter Spotter]

We are on a site today in Northumberland . The guy on the next pitch has his electric Volvo plugged into the vacant pitch next to him . How can sites stand the cost of charging electric cars ? . Very cheeky using a vacant pitch to charge his car . I guess he can’t use the supply on his pitch as he will be using all the power to heat his caravan . What makes it worse is the site is giving a free night for booking two nights .

That is taking the p@ss unless he has asked for and paid for the extra hookup

 

[AndyPK]

That is taking the p@ss unless he has asked for and paid for the extra hookup

Yes, that’s the thought that crossed my mind too - but I bet he hasn’t…….

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[Bleau’s]

Has a park owner we have it in our terms and conditions that the charging of electric cars whilst on site is prohibited and it has also come up for debate by the BH&HPA at board level as to the best way forward

 

[Littlewheels]

We are on a site today in Northumberland . The guy on the next pitch has his electric Volvo plugged into the vacant pitch next to him . How can sites stand the cost of charging electric cars ? . Very cheeky using a vacant pitch to charge his car . I guess he can’t use the supply on his pitch as he will be using all the power to heat his caravan . What makes it worse is the site is giving a free night for booking two nights .

Give me the Pitch Number and Site details and l will phone them without any mention of you.
What they are doing is definitely not on.

 

[Two on Tour]

At least we know that the Volvo owner is not circumcised, ............................ because you have to be a complete prick to buy a Volvo.

 

[violet]

We were on a site in Italy on our way to Greece. An electric car on a nearby pitch was being charged from the hairdryer socket of a nearby block. I was amazed the site management didn't spot it.

 

[dunnah01]

Bring back coin op meters

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[tacr2man]

C&cc mandate you can only plug your ev into socket on your caravan , which you can have plugged into ehu . Not direct .

 

[Spriddler]

C&cc mandate you can only plug your ev into socket on your caravan , which you can have plugged into ehu . Not direct .

Hmm, that'll keep the warden busy resetting the bollard.

 

[Tombola]

If he has has paid for the pitch and its only pulling 1.5 -2 kw whats the problem.
at this rate hed possiby get approx 3 - 4 miles per hour depending on car and battery

 

[AndyPK]

It’s the big ‘if’ that’s the question……….!

 

[Steve and Denise]

He may have informed the site and paid for the supply, if not the warden/owner needs to run the site better as all other campers will be paying for his/her/? Electric

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[sueandjohn]

I'd be complaining both to him & the management & unplugging it.

Yes me too

 

[stevewagner]

At least we know that the Volvo owner is not circumcised, ............................ because you have to be a complete prick to buy a Volvo.

Give me the Pitch Number and Site details and l will phone them without any mention of you.
What they are doing is definitely not on.

How do you know that he hasn’t mad an arrangement with the site?

 

[uzsnowdrop]

C&cc mandate you can only plug your ev into socket on your caravan , which you can have plugged into ehu . Not direct .

That makes sense.

 

[Littlewheels]

How do you know that he hasn’t mad an arrangement with the site?

He doesn’t reference it. Not posted since anyway.

 

[82125]

All electricity is free and the expense should be borne by someone else when youre an electric car owner
(roll on the day when the subsidies cease and the reality of their infeasibility kicks in)

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[cmcardle75]

All electricity is free and the expense should be borne by someone else when youre an electric car owner
(roll on the day when the subsidies cease and the reality of their infeasibility kicks in)

We'll be too busy clearing up the horse muck as the petrol engine will never take off. These new fangled "cars" are too smelly and unreliable and you have to go to the chemists to get fuel. They'll never catch on.

 

[cmcardle75]

In all seriousness, though, campsites will need to deal with the inevitable tsunami of electricity demand that is coming their way. Right now, only a few % of cars are electric and they are underrepresented even in this total as tow cars. However, in a decade or two, there will be few old school diesels and petrols left. If campsites still want business, they're going to have to have a serious thought about providing electric car charging facilities.

 

[PP Bear]

Tis the season to be jolly, la la la la la la la……what the heck has it got to do with us lot!!!

Phone the site, unplug the vehicle, set booby traps and barbwire wire fences.

I’m pretty sure the site warden will have clocked it by now and if not, then nought to do with any of us!

Ba blooming humbug

 

[cmcardle75]

If he has has paid for the pitch and its only pulling 1.5 -2 kw whats the problem.
at this rate hed possiby get approx 3 - 4 miles per hour depending on car and battery

Typically the granny cable will draw 10A or 13A (i.e. 2.3kW - 3kW). My car gets 4.3 miles/kWh, so about 10 to 13 miles per hour recharge. Overnight (12 hours) that would be 120 to 160 miles recharge a day. That would be a useful amount (obviously not much electricity left from the bollard for more than a fridge and battery charging).

However, the problem is that the electrical design of the campsite is unlikely to be able to sustain everyone doing this. Everyone focusses on the last bollard, thinking it is 16A, so everything is OK. However, the campsite supply itself will be designed using a concept called "diversity", which uses judgement and experience to determine how many of those bollards they think will be taking how much power.

These assumptions may prove pretty flawed if everyone started turning up in electric cars wanting to charge overnight, when the calculations were based on empirical evidence of what people actually drew before the popularity of electric cars.

 

[Two on Tour]

What's a more realistic miles/kWh for an EV car towing a caravan though, as presumably the Volvo is?

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[SpeedyDux]

C&cc mandate you can only plug your ev into socket on your caravan , which you can have plugged into ehu . Not direct .

C&MC rules are similar. A handful of their sites now have EV charge points in the late arrivals area.

+1 for what cmcardle75 wrote above. It needs a big investment in whole site electricity distribution upgrading to provide charge points on enough pitches to meet the future demand.

Including maybe BEV motorhomes though that is still a long way off and I expect the next generation might be hybrids.

Meanwhile I won't be happy paying higher pitch fees for what is basically provision aimed at EV caravanners, when I am a light user of electricity anyway.

 

[glenn2926]

C&MC rules are similar. A handful of their sites now have EV charge points in the late arrivals area.

+1 for what cmcardle75 wrote above. It needs a big investment in whole site electricity distribution upgrading to provide charge points on enough pitches to meet the future demand.

Including maybe BEV motorhomes though that is still a long way off and I expect the next generation might be hybrids.

Meanwhile I won't be happy paying higher pitch fees for what is basically provision aimed at EV caravanners, when I am a light user of electricity anyway.

Great idea re the separate charge points, I’m not sure re hybrid motorhomes. A lot of motorhomes have very poor payloads now. Add in 1/2 tonne of battery and it’s even worse.
The college I work for has a charge point. Installed by a third party. It charges £10 per hour for charging. I’ve not seen it on use yet.

 

[SpeedyDux]

Great idea re the separate charge points, I’m not sure re hybrid motorhomes. A lot of motorhomes have very poor payloads now. Add in 1/2 tonne of battery and it’s even worse.
The college I work for has a charge point. Installed by a third party. It charges £10 per hour for charging. I’ve not seen it on use yet.

Hybrid motorhomes (self -charging) only need a small light battery, only 2 or 3 KWh. The advantages are long range, and up to 30% better fuel economy using KERS. Not much loss of payload, if any - the fuel tank can be smaller to compensate.

 

[Ivory55]

May be they asked the campsite owner and said is it ok to plug into the empty pitch or shall I run my kippor for 12hrs, haha

 

[cmcardle75]

What's a more realistic miles/kWh for an EV car towing a caravan though, as presumably the Volvo is?

Well, it would go down by about the same as an ICE towing. Maybe around 2.5 - 3 miles/kWh.

Electric cars make excellent tow cars, BTW. Someone stuck a towbar ontoa 150kW Hyundai Kona, (not legal in this country, I believe, as no MTW on the plate). They seemed to think it was vastly superior to an ICE car in terms of performance, with the maximum torque available at rest. The low down battery weight makes them much more stable than the equivalent ICE). The only issue is that the batteries do need to be a lot larger to make it practical for long distance travel. Basically, not quite there yet, but the future looks bright.

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