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We have a 66 plate ford rollerteam 2.0 diesel which had first oil change at about 5000 miles and currently on 20000 miles.

It seems a bit early for another oil change ?
 
Vic. Parsons. said:
Was the service interval reset correctly at last service?
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Presumably as prior to the service it had an amber warning light that didnt come on after the service.
Started getting reminders about 500 miles ago to "think about changing oil soon"
 
I do an oil and filter change every year whether it needs it or not. Usually about 5000 miles.
Just makes sense to keep everything tip top.
 
Is it one of the new vans with oil condition software?

On Sevel vans, 2 years is the maximum period between oil changes which should never be exceeded. It is also the headline interval that dealers use to sell vans.

But the ECU constantly calculates the condition of the oil based on various driving conditions, DPF regenerations (which can pollute the oil with diesel and combustion products in certain conditions) and other factors. When it considers that the oil may no longer offer full protection to the engine, it notifies the requirement for an oil change.

The handbooks for newer vans don't give a time based schedule for oil changes, but state that it should be changes when notified to the driver.

I believe newer Ford's may have a similar system?

As Iveco explain in their technical literature, 2 year oil changes may be suitable for vehicles covering more than 12,500 miles per year in optimum conditions. Lower mileages, periods of inactivity or idling amongst other factors should require more frequent changes.
 
Deneb said:
Is it one of the new vans with oil condition software?

On Sevel vans, 2 years is the maximum period between oil changes which should never be exceeded. It is also the headline interval that dealers use to sell vans.

But the ECU constantly calculates the condition of the oil based on various driving conditions, DPF regenerations (which can pollute the oil with diesel and combustion products in certain conditions) and other factors. When it considers that the oil may no longer offer full protection to the engine, it notifies the requirement for an oil change.

The handbooks for newer vans don't give a time based schedule for oil changes, but state that it should be changes when notified to the driver.

I believe newer Ford's may have a similar system?

As Iveco explain in their technical literature, 2 year oil changes may be suitable for vehicles covering more than 12,500 miles per year in optimum conditions. Lower mileages, periods of inactivity or idling amongst other factors should require more frequent changes.
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Ta ever so.
I have no idea if it has oil condition software.
Will get oil changed in about 400 miles or 4 days. Currently at saumur en rout back to just past guildford
 
suavecarve said:
Ta ever so.
I have no idea if it has oil condition software.
Will get oil changed in about 400 miles or 4 days. Currently at saumur en rout back to just past guildford
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It will have oil condition software, all modern diesels have it. If you do a lot of short journeys and the ecu has to force regeneration the mileage can be a lot shorter between warnings.
 
I believe there are issues with the injectors on some 2.0 euro 6 Ford engines which result in various warning messages and early oil changes (I believe that they over-fuel and dilute the oil). Might be worth quizzing your dealership to see if yours is one of the engines affected. (*Should* be covered under warranty).
 
This:- Is likely your Engine:- https://www.ford.co.uk/vans-and-pickups/transit-chassis-cab.

Transit Chassis Cab’s all-new Ford EcoBlue 2.0L TDCi engines combine outstanding performance and power with lower fuel consumption and emissions. To lower running costs further, service intervals are now up to 36,000 miles or 2 years, whichever occurs first. Available in three power outputs of 105 PS/ 360 Nm, 130 PS / 385 Nm and 170PS / 405 Nm, there’s an option to suit your needs.

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PeteH said:
This:- Is likely your Engine:- https://www.ford.co.uk/vans-and-pickups/transit-chassis-cab.

Transit Chassis Cab’s all-new Ford EcoBlue 2.0L TDCi engines combine outstanding performance and power with lower fuel consumption and emissions. To lower running costs further, service intervals are now up to 36,000 miles or 2 years, whichever occurs first. Available in three power outputs of 105 PS/ 360 Nm, 130 PS / 385 Nm and 170PS / 405 Nm, there’s an option to suit your needs.
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That's the blurb used to attract fleet buyers, but what does the handbook or service schedule say?

Fleet vehicles in almost daily use and covering relatively high annual mileages are unlikely to ever see the oil change warning due to the degradation counter and the mileage or maximum time based limits will usually apply.
 
Deneb said:
That's the blurb used to attract fleet buyers, but what does the handbook or service schedule say?

Fleet vehicles in almost daily use and covering relatively high annual mileages are unlikely to ever see the oil change warning due to the degradation counter and the mileage or maximum time based limits will usually apply.
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The O/P is saying that His Unit is showing now 2 years old, which would appear to be correct?. Ie on a time base. I do not have a clue about the Handbook. Just the above which is off the `Net. However it would seen to fit?.
 
My 2012 Merc 3L dash display says next service due 23000 miles. It's around 7K at the moment (from new).
 
tonyidle said:
My 2012 Merc 3L dash display says next service due 23000 miles. It's around 7K at the moment (from new).
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IF, yours is the same as mine, you could be getting a warning light at around 2 years from the last service?. Ive just had the "B" service done at circa 35,000miles on an 09 plate, and the "counter" is reset. It is likely that the next service will be on "time" rather that miles. BTW, does yours have a Particulate Filter?.

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PeteH said:
IF, yours is the same as mine, you could be getting a warning light at around 2 years from the last service?. Ive just had the "B" service done at circa 35,000miles on an 09 plate, and the "counter" is reset.
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That makes sense for mine too.
 
jongood said:
Are you going to let it get to 23k before oil change?
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No it'll be done this Winter whether it needs it or not. I used to change the oil on anything at 6K or annually but that is probably excessive with modern oils.
 
tonyidle said:
No it'll be done this Winter whether it needs it or not. I used to change the oil on anything at 6K or annually but that is probably excessive with modern oils.
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I do all our vehicles annually, or 12K if it occurs first.

The main design function of modern oils is low friction to reduce emissions. Whether that is at the expense of longevity is up to the vehicle owner to decide.

Long oil change intervals appeal to fleet buyers as it reduces their costs over an average 2 to 4 years service life. What happens to the vehicle after they've disposed of it isn't their concern.

If you look at the oil specification for identical vehicles outside of the European market you often find that the oil required by the manufacturer is of higher viscosity than that specified here, and sometimes the oil change intervals are shorter too.

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PeteH said:
IF, yours is the same as mine, you could be getting a warning light at around 2 years from the last service?. Ive just had the "B" service done at circa 35,000miles on an 09 plate, and the "counter" is reset. It is likely that the next service will be on "time" rather that miles. BTW, does yours have a Particulate Filter?.
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Not a scooby i m afraid
 
I had this problem with my Peugeot Boxer chassis motorhome which was less than a year old and had done less than 4k miles. I called the dealer and they said that it was a faulty warning and that they had come across it before. I was heading for the Outer Hebrides and was due to take the 'van in on my return for a habitation service. They said not to worry about it and to mention it when the 'van is in for its hab service, which I did. They reset it for me (no idea how). That was 5 months ago and had no problem since.
 
Does one of those oed or obd things reset it ? I ve got one if them off ebay.

Or does it reset itself when you change the oil somehow
 
suavecarve said:
Does one of those oed or obd things reset it ? I ve got one if them off ebay.

Or does it reset itself when you change the oil somehow
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Not all OBD devices are capable of doing a "reset". I understand it is a "Software" issue, Largely. Whoever does your service (assuming you are not?) should have the means to reset the "Counter" back to Null.

Most of the "cheaper" end of the market are only capable of reading the basic generic codes. There are a lot a manufacturer specific code which they cannot access. I`ve had (cheap) "dongles" off Flea bay, which with app`s on the phone will read some codes but resetting is usually beyond their scope.
 
Misterg said:
I believe there are issues with the injectors on some 2.0 euro 6 Ford engines which result in various warning messages and early oil changes (I believe that they over-fuel and dilute the oil). Might be worth quizzing your dealership to see if yours is one of the engines affected. (*Should* be covered under warranty).
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You would notice your oil level has risen if this is the case.

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