C1 and Diabetes

[Doobray]

Anyone on insulin that has managed to get their C1 back

 

[GWAYGWAY]

If you inject insulin then it has gone for good.
My friend had a hypo by not eating quickly enough after injecting and they took his licence away full stop. He took three years to get it back after many appeals and support from his consultant and GP. Commercial vehicle and publ is a no-no.
The answer is not to have to use insulin as a type two diabetic but to remove the sugars from the diet by going carbohydrate-free. Eat proper fats and protein only until the blood sugars drop naturally. All carbohydrates are converted to glucose, some faster than others. Bread is very fast converted from starch to glucose in a minute or so. All sugars will affect insulin levels and the cells are insulin resistant and extra insulin is used by injection to force the unwanted sugar into the cells and liver. All is stored as adipose fat and liver fat. Cut out all sugars and starch from the diet and blood sugar levels will regress to normal levels and diabetes type two will be in recession.
FATS and PROTEINS are what you need, carbohydrates are NOT needed for normal nutrition. It works, and very fast too.
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[Doobray]

Thanks for getting back to me unfortunately I'm already on insulin and going through the process of trying to get my C1 back. I was just wondering how successful people have been. My sugars are in control and I've never had a hypo that requires assistance.

 

[steviebouy]

Hi there, I was hospitalised with diabetes this time last year. Started with 28 units of insulin twice a day to be gradually reduced according to the blood sugar levels. Informed DVLA as required and received a Medical Review Licence. I also had to check my sugars every 2 hours. I got my C1 back after undergoing 3 medicals for them, with my own doctor, hospital consultant and an independent specialist, and finally got my C1 and all my HGV entitlement back. I still had to check my sugars on a 2 hourly regime, carry jelly babies within easy reach etc. I felt the main thing the experts were looking for was no evidence of any “hypos”. So it can be done!
Steve

 

[Doobray]

Thanks how long did the process take

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[steviebouy]

Hmm, I seem to recall it took about 3 months in total. I started out by wanting to apply for the C1 part of my licence back as our motorhome is 3850kg. After collecting all the forms, some of which are available online and one was only available from DVLA. This form I applied for three times before one got sent to me. I also underwent the standard medical for HGV/Bus drivers using the discredited Doctors on Wheels. These forms were sent to DVLA and they replied telling me to undergo 3 further medicals as mentioned above. The first with my own doctor never happened and I presume DVLA sent my Doc a form which he must have completed and returned without any involvement from me. That then instigated the need for a second medical with the Consultant at the hospital I attended. Following the satisfactory reply from her I got a request to attend a third medical with an independent specialist who worked at a local private hospital. All these appointments were arranged by me and if I recall correctly I had to ring DVLA on a mechanised phone line to say when I had done this. As all these medicals were passed DVLA granted all my driving categories back to me. Best of all they paid for everything except travel expenses to the appointments.
Steve

 

[Doobray]

Thanks Steve I'm in the same situation first medical tomorrow with D4 doctors

 

[steviebouy]

OK, good luck. I recall my first medical being focussed on eyesight and blood pressure and a load of yes/no answers. It's when these forms reach DVLA they will start asking the harder questions. It mostly revolved around how well you've been, and whether you know how to recognise the symptoms of a "hypo" and know how to remedy the situation before anything awful occurs. I presume you are on the two hourly blood sugar checking regime?
Steve

 

[Doobray]

OK, good luck. I recall my first medical being focussed on eyesight and blood pressure and a load of yes/no answers. It's when these forms reach DVLA they will start asking the harder questions. It mostly revolved around how well you've been, and whether you know how to recognise the symptoms of a "hypo" and know how to remedy the situation before anything awful occurs. I presume you are on the two hourly blood sugar checking regime?
Steve

I thought you only needed to test twice a day unless driving where you do it every 2 hours

 

[steviebouy]

Yes, sorry. I was referring to driving!
Just to give you further hope I have now stopped the insulin having titrated down to zero. Have applied for relaxation of the 2 hourly regime and this has been granted. I’m now waiting for a new licence which will not be subject to medical review. I know we don’t know each other but it may help you and others to know that I am 62 and weigh 110 kg now having lost about 25kg in the last year.
Steve

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[FreddyBB]

My experience has been that if you are injecting and have got your levels regulated, all it takes is an enormous amount of patience. Some of the forms required by DVLA are available on line and the D4 Doctors will usually hold a stock of the forms D4. However, when it comes to renewal I would suggest that you obtain the Form D4 and get it completed by either your own GP or those guys at D4 Medicals. When the renewal pack arrives from DVLA it will contain numerous other forms, so be ready to seemingly answer the same questions over and over again. Having completed all the paperwork and sent it to DVLA, they will contact you requesting that you make an appointment with a doctor, usually your own GP, for a second medical, however, this second medical is paid for by DVLA. Having completed the second medical you will have to wait for DVLA to contact you again requesting that you make an appointment with their appointed Diabetes Specialist. In my case this was my Hospital Consultant. Following that third medical, again paid for by DVLA, it is then, hopefully, just ja waiting job for DVLA to complete their interminable investigations. This year the process took almost five months. In closing, keep control of your diet, watch your sugar levels and make yourself acutely aware of your personal signs with regard to both Hypo's and Hypers. My Consultant regularly grills me on this and this must be part of his examination process. He also minutely checks my blood sugar meter and ensures that I have been testing on a regular basis as required by DVLA. Finally, I always take copies of all the forms and I maintain a data sheet giving all relevant dates (i.e. when I became diabetic, when I started injecting and the dates of any hospital appointments). I get tubes Glucogel on prescription and always keep a tube about my person. It is a fast acting dextrose gel, doesn't taste bad and does the job in an emergency. Just break the seal and squeeze the gel into the mouth and let if get into your blood stream through your gums.

 

[ambulancekidd]

I have a friend who is IDDM in other words injects insulin & has been a bus driver for years, in fact she passed her PSV after her diagnosis.

 

[Rob Turner]

My wife is Type1 but we are looking at getting her license sorted as my new van is 4.5t.
My old Dethleffs was 3.5t so it wasn’t a problem.
A few years ago it was definitely a no no but now it seems doable. She is a good diabetic and keeps it under control.