Brexit Delay and the Potential 90/180 Day Rule

[ADJF]

So Brexit is delayed once again but this time I have no doubt that it will be cleared for the UK to leave on EU by 31 January 2020 or potentially before? So my only query about this is that when the UK does officially leave the EU (should that be 31 Jan 2020) and if the 90 out of 180 day rule becomes applicable if we are abroad and inside the Schengen area will the first day of our 90 day allowance start on the day the UK leaves the EU (so the clock starts to tick on that date) or does it get backdated and start on the day we entered the Schengen area irrespective if the UK was in the EU at that time? This can have potential consequences on a trip im planning

 

[fat haggis]

Part of the withdrawal agreement is things will still be as is for 2 years giving time to arrange a permanent deal. So nothing should change for at least 2 years. All that depends on the agreed deal. No deal is a different kettle of fish ?

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

Doesn't the 90/180 rule already exist.

 

[Lot lover]

We are in the Schengen area already and are hopeful that nobody can be bothered to track our movements within it. Provided that I don't have a sat nav meltdown and cross La Manche in error of course our winter trip through Spain to the Algarve seems secure. For now at least 180/180 looks good for us.

As usual there seems to be no majority for anything in the HoC. Not sure how it will all end, if it ever does, and I am rapidly losing the will to care. At the age of 73 long term planning matters less and less, thank dog.

I strongly suggest that the rest of you stop worrying and take each day as it comes. The sun usually comes up tomorrow.

 

[nicholsong]

Well if it is going to work from whatever new date Brexit occurs it is like this.

If a UK citizen is in the UK on that date the 90/180 starts then, or on a later date if that person enters and has a later date in their passport.

I doubt whether there is any chance of saying one entered later when one wants to leave Schengen after 180/180 if one cannot show an entry date later than Brexit. One would be deemed an overstayer.

This is all subject to other arrangements being agreed.

Geoff

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[Hagstrom]

I understand that the EU database recording movements by passport checking has been running about 18 months already, collecting data.

 

[Solwaybuggier]

Doesn't the 90/180 rule already exist.

My understanding had always been that it did - because the UK was never part of the Schengen area, regardless of EU membership. But that other countries effect turned a blind eye to it, which would no longer be the case if we leave the EU.

Is this incorrect?

 

[Ingwe]

Well if it is going to work from whatever new date Brexit occurs it is like this.

If a UK citizen is in the UK on that date the 90/180 starts then, or on a later date if that person enters and has a later date in their passport.

I doubt whether there is any chance of saying one entered later when one wants to leave Schengen after 180/180 if one cannot show an entry date later than Brexit. One would be deemed an overstayer.

This is all subject to other arrangements being agreed.

Geoff

Once a lawyer...........

 

[pappajohn]

Don't worry..
Between them, the various powers will see to it we DON'T leave.... EVER!

 

[Vipar]

Ask your MP

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[Tanya_and_Mick]

Doesn't the 90/180 rule already exist.

yes

 

[sweetie]

Ask Trax he’all know

 

[Electraglide]

 

[nicholsong]

Doesn't the 90/180 rule already exist.

The 90/180 rule exists in respect of any EU Citizen staying any other EU country but the requirement at the end of the period is only to Register in that country. It does not require the Citizen to leave, as he/she has a right to stay, under EU freedom of movement provisions.

The difference is that after Brexit UK Citizens will not be EU Citizens so will not be covered by the above.

Geoff