Better security for gas cylinders?

[PaulC70]

So, not really taken a lot of notice before but now I've fitted my second gaslow cylinder Im realising they arent exactly very secure in there. Quite a bit of movement and wobbly.
As you can see in the below picture, the security strap is the one bailey supplied and the problem is it doesn't really properly tiighten due to it's design. It goes to a point but as soon as you try and tighten it a bit more the buckle slips right round the cylinder in the same direction. I deliberately left the wire net on thinking it may help, the other doesn't have the netting and does the same.

Is there a better strap I should be using?

 

[68c]

Mine were the same, I bought a couple of extra straps so now have two on each bottle definitely feels more secure

 

[poppycamper]

Small ratchet straps.... Maybe!!

 

[1967bowesj]

Try re threading the strap through the bracket to induce some resistance ie over under any strap loops.
That way it will pull against something rather than just turn or pull through.
ps I’d turn the front bottle a bit to reduce the strain on the hose

 

[Lenny HB]

Mine have a steel buckle that has quite big teeth in them they have never slipped.

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[rosalan]

As Lenny said, metal straps is the way to go. I think I read that in Germany they are compulsory.

 

[jimcg]

My gaslow has the same straps and has never moved. It may just be the way the picture was taken but the hose in the foreground appears to not have the correct bend radius i.e it’s too tight a bend. Hoses have a minimum bend radius and if installed wit too tight a bend they are prone to premature failure.

 

[Lenny HB]

As Lenny said, metal straps is the way to go. I think I read that in Germany they are compulsory.

I said metal buckles not straps.
It's France where metal straps are compulsory.

 

[bobandjanie]

Both our Rapido van and the present Pilote van have two of those straps on each bottle. Bob.

 

[rosalan]

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[Just smiffy]

I will join the sort that rubber hose brigade….

 

[DerryW]

I changed mine for these, which I got from Halfrauds. I done the leisure battery at the same time, as it was only held in place by 2 small plastic furniture modesty blocks and the actual battery leads.

Interesting to hear that metal straps are compulsory in France, is that on French registered vehicles only?

 

[Lenny HB]

I changed mine for these, which I got from Halfrauds. I done the leisure battery at the same time, as it was only held in place by 2 small plastic furniture modesty blocks and the actual battery leads.

Interesting to hear that metal straps are compulsory in France, is that on French registered vehicles only?

I find those Camlock straps pretty useless they also always work loose.

Yes just French registered vehicles.

 

[Stealaway]

As Lenny said, metal straps is the way to go. I think I read that in Germany they are compulsory.

Mines a German van and came fitted with plastic buckles.
But very secure ones and a cradle at the back

 

[PaulC70]

Cheers all. Think I’ll get some wee ratchet straps. Also will readjust the hose. I put it like that as it was hitting the door. I’ll readjust at the weekend.

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[Basildog]

Yes that hose is offending me too
Disconnect it all, gauge to the front then turn the filler elbow to the best position ( tighten it in so clockwise) .
A few minutes spent on it will make everything look so much neater

 

[Basildog]

Mines a German van and came fitted with plastic buckles.
But very secure ones and a cradle at the back



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That hose is definitely a disaster waiting to happen
Get a w20 elbow or one of these will sort the job

Gaslow W20 Changeover Gauge Propane Standard

The Gaslow W20 Changeover Gauge Propane Standard 01-1630 has been designed to create a twin gas system for caravans and motorhomes. This manual changeover unit simply screws onto your bulkhead mounted 30mbar regulator and allows you to reconnect your existing regulator hose and with an...

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[Stealaway]

That hose is definitely a disaster waiting to happen
Get a w20 elbow or one of these will sort the job

Gaslow W20 Changeover Gauge Propane Standard

The Gaslow W20 Changeover Gauge Propane Standard 01-1630 has been designed to create a twin gas system for caravans and motorhomes. This manual changeover unit simply screws onto your bulkhead mounted 30mbar regulator and allows you to reconnect your existing regulator hose and with an...

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The tube is not that tight to the roof but I can order one of these?

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What is that changeover for?

 

[Basildog]

The tube is not that tight to the roof but I can order one of these?

BES.co.uk | Next Day Delivery On 15,000 + Plumbing Supplies

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What is that changeover for?

Might be the photograph making it look worse than it is
We use those Gaslow gauges as a tee as they make the job look neat
Yes that w20 elbow will help .

 

[Stealaway]

Might be the photograph making it look worse than it is
We use those Gaslow gauges as a tee as they make the job look neat
Yes that w20 elbow will help .

Excellent. That tee is a one way valve.
I did move the regular down a bit lower to stop that top tube being too tight

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[DerryW]

I find those Camlock straps pretty useless they also always work loose.

Yes just French registered vehicles.

Lenny
I can't check at the moment (vehicle in workshop) I'll check next week when its back, having said that I don't think they've come loose. Thanks for the heads up

 

[Lenny HB]

Lenny
I can't check at the moment (vehicle in workshop) I'll check next week when its back, having said that I don't think they've come loose. Thanks for the heads up

May be OK but I've found them useless for holding bikes in the garage, now use a ratchet strap a bit of a pain but bikes stay in place.

 

[Wombles]

Full details here https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/foru...ding-accessories-discount-codes.184590/page-6 but we used foam inserts & Fiamma bike straps to make ours more secure.

 

[donkey]

B & M stores a pair of RAC straps for £4. I bought two packs and find them perfect for this sort of job.

RAC Buckle Tie Downs 2.5m 2pk

RAC Buckle Tie Downs 2.5m 2pk. Quick automatic release. Features: Safe, secure, light, non slip, ideal for cars, trucks, boats and motorcycles. 2 pack.

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Geoff

 

[EuroTrotters]

As Lenny said, metal straps is the way to go. I think I read that in Germany they are compulsory.

They are

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[Sapper520]

Two straps with tight grip metal buckles. The excess strap I roll up and wrap an elastic band around it to keep it tidy.

 

[Manic]

I’ve bolted mine down with two hook bolts on each cylinder

 

[Lenny HB]

Two straps with tight grip metal buckles. The excess strap I roll up and wrap an elastic band around it to keep it tidy.

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Those look like the buckles on ours, they never slip, I'll have a look when I'm awake.

 

[funflair]

May be OK but I've found them useless for holding bikes in the garage, now use a ratchet strap a bit of a pain but bikes stay in place.

I use the cam-lock straps for our scooter and they never move, the straps came from the motorcycle show shop as they are the ones that the bikes are strapped into the crates with as they come from Japan or wherever they are made.

 

[Lenny HB]

I use the cam-lock straps for our scooter and they never move, the straps came from the motorcycle show shop as they are the ones that the bikes are strapped into the crates with as they come from Japan or wherever they are made.

Sound like better quality they the generally available ones.

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