Automatic levelling

[stevewagner]

I’ve been considering automatic levelling for sometime now. Been looking at 2 systems both price the same. One is MA-VE and the other is HPC. Any Funsters out there have experience of either systems. All comments appreciated.

 

[PeteH]

Had levelling jacks on my R-V`s. great idea and they came fitted, sit in the seat push the button and go and put the kettle on or open the favourite refreshment. I understand that they are well in excess of 3 grand to retrofit?. One of the things to consider is the fact that they add a substantial weight to the `van and that has to come from payload. (not and issue when I had the R-V`s with 2t plus payloads) but would be now on a very tight payload that exists on many, especially 3.5t, motorhomes.

 

[HandyAndy]

How difficult are you finding levelling a van without auto levellers?

 

[Hettie's Crew]

We went for the HPC, fitted by AS at Warrington after a great deal of research.
It’s lighter and has more up to date electronics including the phone app operation.
Very pleased with our decision and we had to travel across country rather than just an hour to Doncaster for the E&P system.
Apart from the obvious levelling and not having to get out to do it, the main benefits are the rock steady feel and the fridge always working at it’s best.
HPC weight is about 40-45kg against 50-65kg for the E&P.

 

[icantremember]

I’ve been considering automatic levelling for sometime now. Been looking at 2 systems both price the same. One is MA-VE and the other is HPC. Any Funsters out there have experience of either systems. All comments appreciated.

We have the HPC system which was fitted 3 years ago by AS Air Suspension with their usual great service ... brilliant set-up which I'm happy to recommend.
It is very simple to use from either the onboard panel or as I do with the phone app.

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[RogerThat]

Another HPC owner over here too ?

 

[Drifter]

I looked a while back just out of interest when I first heard about it, seen it quoted at a cost of over 5k. Not sure that is great value for money but if I was loaded I might go for it. Beer tokens to the cost of 5k will will let me sleep half way up Ben Nevis ?

 

[stevewagner]

How difficult are you finding levelling a van without auto levellers?

No difficulty in levelling really it’s just the rocking of the van when anyone moves

 

[stevewagner]

Had levelling jacks on my R-V`s. great idea and they came fitted, sit in the seat push the button and go and put the kettle on or open the favourite refreshment. I understand that they are well in excess of 3 grand to retrofit?. One of the things to consider is the fact that they add a substantial weight to the `van and that has to come from payload. (not and issue when I had the R-V`s with 2t plus payloads) but would be now on a very tight payload that exists on many, especially 3.5t, motorhomes.

Fortunately I have playoff spare payload

 

[HandyAndy]

In that case why not bolt on some manual wind down legs?

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[RogerThat]

One is MA-VE and the other is HPC

Something that may swing your decision is the availability of local installers of each system?

 

[HandyAndy]

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Somewhat cheaper than hydro levelling kit!!

 

[funflair]

OK ours are E&P but we think they are great, levelling, puncture/wheel removal, lifting out of the mud and onto mats, many advantages.

Martin

 

[icantremember]

I believe the HPC system is slightly lighter than the other makes and the weight is partly offset by no longer needing to carry a vehicle jack and leveling ramps.

 

[Clarky]

Can’t comment on the ones the OP quoted but we also have E&P fitted and they are great.
Apart from just the ease of auto levelling they stop all the rocking in high wind (other causes of van rocking are also dealt with ) and when you move around in the van. We use ours whenever we are parked, even if the van is already level.
Wheel changing, no problem. Emptying the grey tank, just tilt the van to speed it up and fully drain the tank. Security enhanced too.
It’s a little bit of luxury ...................but you’re worth it.

Richard

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[olley]

Hydraulic/electric Jack's are great, who the hell wants to go around with a handle winding Jack's up and down, easier to use ramps.

 

[Southdowners]

We have E&P and are very pleased with them.

 

[PeteH]

I entirely agree, they are Great. The big BUT, is that with the piddling payloads, often barely existent payloads, in some `vans, retrofitting could be counter productive. The O-P has said he has the capacity to accomdate another 45kg. On some `vans that might mean having to leave a Passenger at home!. . Or Worse, the BEER and WINE!.

 

[Marty Gilly and Pup]

I entirely agree, they are Great. The big BUT, is that with the piddling payloads, often barely existent payloads, in some `vans, retrofitting could be counter productive. The O-P has said he has the capacity to accomdate another 45kg. On some `vans that might mean having to leave a Passenger at home!. . Or Worse, the BEER and WINE!.

Or leave off even the simplest wind up ramps and carry more wine! We left the table st home on last years france trip for just this reason. If not level, just drink more and this compensates for the slope anyway. Hic

 

[RogerThat]

Security enhanced too.

Curious... can you expand on this?

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[Lenny HB]

I wouldn't mind fitting them for the levelling but the air suspension does a reasonable job.
My worry is it would stop the rocking, both me and the boss always sleep better when the wind is rocking the van, love it.

 

[stevewagner]

In that case why not bolt on some manual wind down legs?

I’ve had vans with wind down jacks before and although they help they don’t illuminate the movement altogether

 

[tonyidle]

I’ve had vans with wind down jacks before and although they help they don’t illuminate the movement altogether

They aren't designed (or able) to lift.

 

[stevewagner]

Thanks everyone for your comments. I agree they are expensive but at least they can be removed and refitted (at a cost) if we change vans. Going to check out the EP ones today then make a decision however we are leaning towards the HPC ones at the moment.

 

[Alex and Lesley]

stevewagner Don’t discount the new kid on the block, the Alko Hy4 system will be rolling out at E&P dealers in the next few weeks and months, we had the first system fitted in the UK last week at the factory.

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[GROMIT69]

We have E&P fitted by Mick and his team at SAP Doncaster , we looked at other makes and spoke to a lot of people, E&P were a lot better constructed than the others , and SAP go the extra mile when fitting

 

[Puddleduck]

Will watch this thread with interest but I think it would need a lottery win to make it possible for us.

 

[Mark and Mindy]

We're having EP fitted next week, it may only be a short van but we do notice slopes when on uneven ground. We have plenty of payload to over it, over 200kg free when weighed a couple of weeks ago in fully loaded state, with dogs etc.

 

[Clarky]

Curious... can you expand on this?

It’s a bit difficult to drive or tow the van away with the wheels off the ground.

Richard

 

[icantremember]

It’s a bit difficult to drive or tow the van away with the wheels off the ground.

Richard

No, but the scrotes will have easy access to pinch your wheels .... oh yes, and mine!

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