Another Ford stolen

They all get nicked but Fords do appear in the press more than others. But I think mainly because they sell more than most.

But for gods sake in a modern world you would have thought they could make vehicles a bit harder to steal.

Thoughts go out to the people who have lost their dream. :xsad:
 
MikeD said:
But for gods sake in a modern world you would have thought they could make vehicles a bit harder to steal.
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I reckon Ford have adopted the 'head in sand' stance and simply won't acknowledge their produce is easily stolen.
I'm positive there are far more Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen vans than Ford's converted to motorhomes.
 
Another one cloned and converted to a scrap wagon
bill
 
In my opinion Fords are nicked as
1 ex factory security is crap
2 low mileage transit motor homes are a great source of quality spare parts
3 Transit spare parts are in high demand as there are so many out there, many times more than Fiat,Citroen etc.

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I think ford like their vans being stolen as they probably like to think that everyone wants one because there a prestigious motor :LOL:
 
There are always going to be folks who dont even know that Transits are easy to steal these days just as the folks with disposable income who are lured into buying unsuitable vans from some dealers etc .
My Wifes uncle was saved by my and the advice of this forum from making an expensive mistake.
All we can do is try and get the word out.
Nothing against Transits i made them for years until they were all made in Turkey.
That was almost a Christmas pun , il get me coat.
 
I feel for them but can only think they aren’t Funsters .
We beefed up our security on the advice and knowledge from MH fun!
 
pappajohn said:
I reckon Ford have adopted the 'head in sand' stance and simply won't acknowledge their produce is easily stolen.
I'm positive there are far more Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen vans than Ford's converted to motorhomes.
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Do you remember the days when a Ford key seemed like a universal pass key ... for every Escort ...

I almost drove home from the supermarket in the wrong car once.

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This might be a daft question - but why are Fords apparently so easy to take and not others ?
What is it that a thief does that is quicker and easier than other makes?
Are Fords more likely to be on the road rather than in a secure compound ?
Ford owners seem to put enough anti theft devices on their vehicles but still get them taken - why ?
 
On the A55 near Prestatyn. Wonder where it was going? :)
 
keithchesterfield2 said:
This might be a daft question - but why are Fords apparently so easy to take and not others ?
What is it that a thief does that is quicker and easier than other makes?
Are Fords more likely to be on the road rather than in a secure compound ?
Ford owners seem to put enough anti theft devices on their vehicles but still get them taken - why ?
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Ford immobiliser security has been bypassed by hackers in eastern Europe and the far east, and for several years now devices which plug in to the diagnostic port on the vehicle have been readily available which allow the vehicles to be started and driven without the genuine key.

The people who discover these compromises work full time on reverse engineering and bypassing the original security systems. They are effectively computer hardware and software hackers, since those are the type of systems that modern vehicles rely on.

Fords are not the only vehicles that are easy to take with the right kit. Most vehicles with keyless entry and start are incredibly easy to steal with the right equipment to hand. BMWs, Mercs, Audis, Vauxhalls, Land Rovers etc, etc. can also be subject to key and immobiliser compromise attacks.

It is just that you see a lot about Fords on MH forums, because there are a limited number of manufacturers whose vehicles are commonly used for MHs.

Mercedes vans can also be stolen, but the technique requires certain items to be piggybacked onto the vehicle after having been obtained from another vehicle, so not as simple or easy.

Sevel vans were largely immune to keyless theft until recently, because bypassing the immobiliser required a code that could only be obtained from the factory, or removal, disassembly and replacement of the vehicle's ECU to physically hack the system. It appears that hackers have now worked out a way to retrieve the code from the ECU through a software attack and are marketing similar equipment to that used on Fords. Although early days, so not as many units in circulation for now...

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The reason Ford motorhomes are popular to steal is quite simple, usually very low mileage and kept in great condition thats vs works vans 100 to 250k miles and knocked about. there is a huge market for mark7 spares including low miles engines, most will be broken and some will be on a ferry to be re registered, the one on caught on the A55 will no doubt been on the way to the Ferry.
 
Deneb said:
Ford immobiliser security has been bypassed by hackers in eastern Europe and the far east, and for several years now devices which plug in to the diagnostic port on the vehicle have been readily available which allow the vehicles to be started and driven without the genuine key.

The people who discover these compromises work full time on reverse engineering and bypassing the original security systems. They are effectively computer hardware and software hackers, since those are the type of systems that modern vehicles rely on.

Fords are not the only vehicles that are easy to take with the right kit. Most vehicles with keyless entry and start are incredibly easy to steal with the right equipment to hand. BMWs, Mercs, Audis, Vauxhalls, Land Rovers etc, etc. can also be subject to key and immobiliser compromise attacks.

It is just that you see a lot about Fords on MH forums, because there are a limited number of manufacturers whose vehicles are commonly used for MHs.

Mercedes vans can also be stolen, but the technique requires certain items to be piggybacked onto the vehicle after having been obtained from another vehicle, so not as simple or easy.

Sevel vans were largely immune to keyless theft until recently, because bypassing the immobiliser required a code that could only be obtained from the factory, or removal, disassembly and replacement of the vehicle's ECU to physically hack the system. It appears that hackers have now worked out a way to retrieve the code from the ECU through a software attack and are marketing similar equipment to that used on Fords. Although early days, so not as many units in circulation for now...
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My 2016 fiat based swift bolero got taken in september off my drive, luckily the tracker saved the day, it was retrieved an hour later, with no damage to the locks or ignition. They had been on the ecu via the obd port. I have now fitted a growler and ns for extra security.
 
wigster said:
There are always going to be folks who dont even know that Transits are easy to steal these days just as the folks with disposable income who are lured into buying unsuitable vans from some dealers etc .
My Wifes uncle was saved by my and the advice of this forum from making an expensive mistake.
All we can do is try and get the word out.
Nothing against Transits i made them for years until they were all made in Turkey.
That was almost a Christmas pun , il get me coat.
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and your wig, and yes i need one to ,or over the top, and down both side, pj not as a coot,
 

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