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Evening all, today i went to buy a spare wheel rim for my motorhome and when i was talking to the chap i mentioned that i had alloy wheels fitted and he told me the steel wheel i was looking at might be no good because of the wheel bolt could stick out too far on the inside of the wheel and hit/rub on the hand brake hub (disc brakes on rear) and I may have to get spare wheel bolts to suit? Has anyone heard of this or had a problem with this.
 
Can be a problem as the metal rim is much thinner than the allow rim. Best thing to do is try it or just by some spare wheel nuts that are typically 5mm shorter
 
Yes, I know that on fiat ducato's if you have a steel spare wheel and alloys fitted to the vehicle you get a set of five wheel bolts to fit the steel wheel to the vehicle
 
I don’t know if they are still available, but last year autotrail was selling alloy wheels off old stocks. Even if a different pattern to your wheels it might be ok as a spare.
 
Definitely seperate bolts. Just fitted some alloys and had to keep the original bolts for the steel spare.

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Not always, some Ducatos have a universal bolt. It may just be the Maxi though. They have the conical bit that fits into the alloy but when the wheel is a steel one it leaves the conical bit proud.
 
I'd simply keep an eye out for an alloy spare.
 
wiljoy said:
Definitely seperate bolts. Just fitted some alloys and had to keep the original bolts for the steel spare.
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I have alloys & been carrying a steal spare , seem I will have to get new bolts ?
 
It`s an issue not just confined to Motorhomes. The "skinny" get you home wheel fitted to some cars comes with it own set of nuts/Bolts.
 
On our Hymer/Fiat on maxi we can use the same bolts it has Hymer alloys but I believe the Fiat alloys use same bolts as well?
 
As I said at the beginning of my post the chap said be careful, i didn't mean to panic anyone but its something I need to check out.
 
I was having the same dilemma, as I bought a non fiat steel spare,but have fiat alloys.

After much searching and asking people,I couldn't get to the bottom of it.

So the only answer was to try the wheel on front and back,which solved the dilemma.

It fitted fine,also I made sure the wheel spun freely, not interfering with anything.

So it was ok in my case, a bit like payload dilemmas, if you want to know for definite try it(weigh it)

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I have a 2018 carthago on the maxi chassis and i had a blow out so fitted the steel wheel and used the normal alloy bolts and had no problems they fitted fine and did not catch, this was on the rear
 
Mine is on the AL-KO chassis with alloys , anybody got any thoughts if the standard bolts will fit the steel wheels ?
 
jezport said:
Not always, some Ducatos have a universal bolt. It may just be the Maxi though. They have the conical bit that fits into the alloy but when the wheel is a steel one it leaves the conical bit proud.
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They were proud when we practiced changing our new steel spare wheel. But it spun round and this clearly explains the situation.
Thanks
 
In the owners hand book for the Mercedes Sprinter it states that steel and alloy wheels use different lengths studs. I carry a spare which is a steel wheel and the van runs on alloys.
Went to Merc main dealer for correct studs ( £12.00 for 6) job done!
Fiat manual might give you some guidance!

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Slightly of topic. how can I tell if I have a Maxi chassis.
 
I had a similar dilemma as my Dethleffs has 16 inch alloys, I got in touch with Fiat and they informed me that the vehicle was originally supplied from the factory with steel wheels! To keep things simple I ordered 5 nuts that would of come with the van however knowing my luck they may be the same as what are already on.
I have attached a photo along with the part number, hope it helps someone.
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I think the light chassis was/is available with 16" wheels. There are 2 versions of the 16" wheel, one with a wheel bolt pitch circle diameter (PCD) of 118mm that is supplied on the Light chassis and the other with a PCD of 130mm that is supplied with the Maxi chassis. Because there are 5 bolts, it's quite difficult to measure the PCD. The best way I've found to do this is to measure the distance between 2 adjacent bolts. 118PCD the distance is 69mm and 130PCD the distance is 76mm.
 
Ivory55 said:
I don’t know if they are still available, but last year autotrail was selling alloy wheels off old stocks. Even if a different pattern to your wheels it might be ok as a spare.
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I read that and looked into it. It was a no go.

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jezport said:
Not always, some Ducatos have a universal bolt. It may just be the Maxi though. They have the conical bit that fits into the alloy but when the wheel is a steel one it leaves the conical bit proud.
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I can confirm the wheel bolts on my Late 2016 6m 3500kg globecar (Non Maxi) ,chassis PVC with factory 16" Alloy wheels work fine with me steel spare wheel with no fouling ?
 
Scotch mist said:
I have alloys & been carrying a steal spare , seem I will have to get new bolts ?
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I would do a test fit of the spare first of all.
It also gives you a chance to practicehow to unmounted the spare from under the chassis
 
I know this sounds a bit of faffing about, but if you have to change the rear, take your good front (alloy) off and put that on the rear, and put your steel rim on the front axle....or tell your recovery/breakdown to do that for you.?

I have a spare steel rim and have tried it on my rear axle. All ok using the genuine fiat alloy wheel nuts. Mine is on a maxi chassis though.
 
gerry mcg said:
I would do a test fit of the spare first of all.
It also gives you a chance to practicehow to unmounted the spare from under the chassis
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a motorhome with a under mounted spare is a rarity these days
a practice change is the logical test BUT funsters knowledge is easier ?
 
Scotch mist said:
a motorhome with a under mounted spare is a rarity these days
a practice change is the logical test BUT funsters knowledge is easier ?
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If the OP Has alloy wheels and does not have a steel spare, there is no need to worry about whether the wheel bolts fixing his alloy wheels will work with a steel wheel ;)

Ps, if you do change the alloy wheel for the spare steel wheel, you need to use the adapter plate and the 3 bolt fixing to attach the alloy wheel to the underslung windlass. You also need to place the alloy wheel on a car mat or bit of cardboard etc to protect the outer face of the alloy from being badly scratched by the ground as you slide it under the van to raise and lower it to the storage housing ;)

I would also recommend you have a proper breaker bar and deep socket and loosen & retighten the wheel nuts before you have to in anger. I managed to bend the standard tools that came with the van as one of the nuts was was so tight I couldn't shift it. I only managed as I had access to proper tools ;)

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