Advice xbox1 verces xbox1s

[Wildbill]

OK the wee-man has asked for a xbox1 he says the 1s has software issues
So he is happy with a refurbished unit as apposed to a new unit
Now this is a delema for me.
Do I buy him the 1s give him a clip round the lug hole and tell him to like or lump it
Or take it on the chin and get him the refurbished unit any gamers out thare as I know nothing about theas things
Bill

 

[tonka]

ok Bill...
Just messaged my techie son.

here is his answer..

"The original Xbox one is outdated now and is slower than the Xbox one S , the software on the Xbox one / Xbox one S are exactly the same as it’s the same console apart from the Xbox one is smaller and a bit faster and has a 4K blu Ray player"

 

[hilldweller]

Or you do him a favour and buy him, well anything, but an xbox.

I am totally distressed at the hours my grandson wastes on xbox. Took over his life years ago. Bad parenting I guess. They are as addictive as class a drugs.

 

[pappajohn]

Ask him to make up his mind Steve.....

"The original Xbox one is outdated now and is slower than the Xbox one S , the software on the Xbox one / Xbox one S are exactly the same as it’s the same console apart from the Xbox one is smaller and a bit faster and has a 4K blu Ray player"

 

[Wildbill]

Or you do him a favour and buy him, well anything, but an xbox.

I am totally distressed at the hours my grandson wastes on xbox. Took over his life years ago. Bad parenting I guess. They are as addictive as class a drugs.

We strictly control his time on the gaming
He probably only gets on it when it's not a school day he has somany other activetes frome rugby to youth club judo kick boxing he dosent get home from school till 18.30
Saturday he's at school for sports half day
Then Sunday rugby
Don't think he has time to get hooked
Bill

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[Gellyneck]

ok Bill...
Just messaged my techie son.

here is his answer..

"The original Xbox one is outdated now and is slower than the Xbox one S , the software on the Xbox one / Xbox one S are exactly the same as it’s the same console apart from the Xbox one is smaller and a bit faster and has a 4K blu Ray player"

@tonka Maybe I'm reading it wrongly but it's the 1s that has the 4k player \ upscaling.

@Wildbill The other thing to consider is what length of warranty do you get on the refurb vs the new unit?
You should be able to get a good deal on the 1s as it's being discounted given the recent release of the 1x. Black Friday is this week so might be worthwhile seeing what's on offer then?
ps our techie boy says 1s as well.

 

[Wildbill]

1s it is then but I am more lookin forward to the mecano set a maga box
Bill

 

[tonka]

Ask him to make up his mind Steve.....

LOL...
Maybe i pushed him to hard for a fast reply..
I know naff all about them.. Except like Brian says, kids today can spend to much time on them....
Glad my grandson has the interest in the Cadets, get's him away from it some of the time.

 

[hilldweller]

We strictly control his time on the gaming

Bill

Thank goodness for some decent parenting. My grandson if far from alone, there is a whole tribe of them locked into mortal combat, he, and I guess the others, have full headsets and are oblivious to the real world but inhabit this xbox world.

He is good at football and no complaints from school but I'm still worried.

 

[hilldweller]

lookin forward to the mecano set a maga box
Bill

NOW you are talking

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[Wildbill]

Thank goodness for some decent parenting. My grandson if far from alone, there is a whole tribe of them locked into mortal combat, he, and I guess the others, have full headsets and are oblivious to the real world but inhabit this xbox world.

He is good at football and no complaints from school but I'm still worried.

OK grandad find sumthing you both like and do it swimming I grate for both of you one night a week
Bill

 

[hilldweller]

OK grandad find sumthing you both like and do it swimming I grate for both of you one night a week
Bill

I'm sorry to say I've given up. I've taken him out on the bike, he falls asleep on me. I've taken him Karting but last time I offered this he backed out. I've bought him the BBC Micro:Bit, he can understand it but not interested, a few flashing LEDs is no match for Xbox. So you can see where I am coming from.

He is in a football team and a good goal scorer so not totally lost.

He is 12 YO and infested with Xbox for 4 or 5 years.

 

[Wildbill]

I'm sorry to say I've given up. I've taken him out on the bike, he falls asleep on me. I've taken him Karting but last time I offered this he backed out. I've bought him the BBC Micro:Bit, he can understand it but not interested, a few flashing LEDs is not match for Xbox. So you can see where I am coming from.

He is in a football team and a good goal scorer so not totally lost.

He is 12 YO and infested with Xbox for 4 or 5 years.

 

[Wildbill]

Get him a mecano seet if he loses interest you can always play with it
Bill

 

[deleted-member02]

Thank goodness for some decent parenting. My grandson if far from alone, there is a whole tribe of them locked into mortal combat, he, and I guess the others, have full headsets and are oblivious to the real world but inhabit this xbox world.

He is good at football and no complaints from school but I'm still worried.

Tomorrow's surgeons could well be the gamers of today. (if AI doesn't replace everyone )
Improving coordination, problem solving, improving memory and reactions, multitasking, team playing, there's lots of benefits.
For 'learning' and a future career in IT, perhaps PC gaming is better, as a curious young mind will learn how it all works (downside is crazy prices and ever changing technology)

Re the X Box -
Black Friday will be the best time to buy, with bundles being the best value (particularly if you want one or two of the latest games)

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[pappajohn]

You should be able to get a good deal on the 1s as it's being discounted given the recent release of the 1x

Jeez Bill, don't tell him there's a 1x.
Its getting as bad as mobile phones..... A new model brought out before the last one hit the shelves.

 

[Wildbill]

Jeez Bill, don't tell him there's a 1x.
Its getting as bad as mobile phones..... A new model brought out before the last one hit the shelves.

X box 1x tb1 no less the the xbox 1x is obsolete now
Bill

 

[ABZSteve]

I got my son the original xbox for Christmas. He wasn't too impressed so...........

I got him the xbox 360. Still not impressed so..............

I go him the new xbox 1 for his birthday. and he loves it

Hope that helps Bill

 

[autorouter]

I've bought him the BBC Micro:Bit, he can understand it but not interested, a few flashing LEDs is no match for Xbox.

Have you tried explainingcomputers.com? There's a 'raspberry pi robotics' series that starts from scratch and builds a working robot. Better than just a few flashing lights. And it does real programming using Python, not the over-simplified dross you sometimes see. Kids learn from youtube nowadays. It's the way forward.

 

[hilldweller]

Have you tried explainingcomputers.com? There's a 'raspberry pi robotics' series that....................

As I said, I've given up for now. I'm not begging him get interested.

BUT, a robot, it's near Christmas, I think you might be on to something there. It will be Arduino though, much easier to live with and I love C but not keen on Python ( any program that relies on spaces instead of braces is poo to me ).

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[Wildbill]

ok folks I order it today I also ordered a new axe to put through it even looks like he's on it touch
bill

 

[autorouter]

I love C but not keen on Python ( any program that relies on spaces instead of braces is poo to me ).

I see where you're coming from, but for a beginner there's less geeky symbols and constructs in Python which makes it easier to learn and use. I think Python is to C as a bowsaw is to a chainsaw. C is great for professionals, but full of pitfalls and dangers for a beginner. I think Python is the easiest to learn of all the serious languages.

 

[hilldweller]

less geeky symbols and constructs .

I said he was uninterested, but he is clever.

I've spent ages looking at all things robot and ordered a very simple two wheel track/avoid kit. I hope it will be simple enough not to stress his attention span. I don't hold out much hope and can see me building it and see if it moving triggers some enthusiasm.

 

[Wildbill]

ok controllers do x box 360 ones work on the 1s ?
cheers bill

 

[hilldweller]

in Python

I have next to me a 24mm x 30mm pcb, it has WiFi, 4MB of flash storage containing micropython and costs a fiver.

It was your post that made me look when I saw micropython for it, I usually use C++. I'll have a play.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WeMos-D1...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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