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I am still unsure about the regulations on the time lapse for going abroad. Friends of ours are going to France for the month of September and they normally winter in Spain. Can they still go to Spain 90 days from the return at the end of September in early January as someone else has told them it would be doubtful under current restrictions.
 
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I am still unsure about the regulations on the time lapse for going abroad. Friends of ours are going to France for the month of September and they normally winter in Spain. Can they still go to Spain 90 days from the return at the end of September in early January as someone else has told them it would be doubtful under current restrictions.
as long as they have 90 days back in the UK after returning from France then there good to go
 
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I am still unsure about the regulations on the time lapse for going abroad. Friends of ours are going to France for the month of September and they normally winter in Spain. Can they still go to Spain 90 days from the return at the end of September in early January as someone else has told them it would be doubtful under current restrictions.
When you say current restrictions do you mean the 90 in 180 rule or covid? I don't see the 90 in 180 as temporary! If your friends are back for at least 90 days as far as I know they will be fine for another 90 day trip. There was a link from someone to an online calculator.

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As the situation is 90 in 180 the 180 start when you enter the EU so in this case Sept let us say 1st of September.
So in the period from 1 September your friend can spend 90 days in total. Then they need to be our for the next 180 days.

So if the came home 30th September they could go back in January but would need to count back the 90 in 180.
 
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As the situation is 90 in 180 the 180 start when you enter the EU so in this case Sept let us say 1st of September.
So in the period from 1 September your friend can spend 90 days in total. Then they need to be our for the next 180 days.

So if the came home 30th September they could go back in January but would need to count back the 90 in 180.
I don't think they need to be out for 180 before returning.. If they are out for 90 by the time they reach enough days to add up to more than 90 including the September trip the September days will be dropping out of the 180 that count as quickly as new days are added........if that makes sense.

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This is the calculator I am planning to use to sort out dates we can be in Schenegen:

 

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I don't think they need to be out for 180 before returning.. If they are out for 90 by the time they reach enough days to add up to more than 90 including the September trip the September days will be dropping out of the 180 that count as quickly as new days are added........if that makes sense.
As clear as mud!!!!
 

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some not so sure info being given out here I think

if they go for September then that’s 30 days leaving 60 which they can use up to the end of February as I understand it, you certainly do not have to be back for 180 days before returning

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Info from :

90/180 Schengen Visa Rule

The 180-day period keeps rolling. Therefore, anytime you wish to enter the Schengen, you just have to count backwards the last 180 days, and see if you have been present in the Schengen for more than 90 days throughout that period.
 
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Info from :

90/180 Schengen Visa Rule

The 180-day period keeps rolling. Therefore, anytime you wish to enter the Schengen, you just have to count backwards the last 180 days, and see if you have been present in the Schengen for more than 90 days throughout that period.
Quite simple really - I don't know why people get so confused with a rolling 180 window, upto 90 of which you can be inside Schengen.
 
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So if your 180 days are up whilst you are in Spain and then it starts again, can you do 90 days back to back , as long as you have spent 90 days in the previous 180 out of the Schengen x

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some not so sure info being given out here I think

if they go for September then that’s 30 days leaving 60 which they can use up to the end of February as I understand it, you certainly do not have to be back for 180 days before returning
yes but although at end of February 89 days in the EU would have been used in the last 180 days, as from the 1st of march the september days would decrease one by one as the March days are added one by one.Therefore they could stay for 90 consecutive days until towards end of March.
All the way through March it would remain constant at 89 days until the 30th(?) when it would be 90 days & legally you would have to have left by
 
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It is simple. Imagine putting a ruler over your calendar. If the ruler equals 90 days. As long as your actual days fall inside that window you are OK.
 

Al n Val

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So if your 180 days are up whilst you are in Spain and then it starts again, can you do 90 days back to back , as long as you have spent 90 days in the previous 180 out of the Schengen x
no no no

in simple terms 90 in 90 out 😉

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So if your 180 days are up whilst you are in Spain and then it starts again, can you do 90 days back to back , as long as you have spent 90 days in the previous 180 out of the Schengen x
They can't be "up" It is a rolling period.
If you entered on 3rd October this year & stayed until march 30th next year that would be 179 days in 180.
Use the previous calculator .it works
 
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I don't think they need to be out for 180 before returning.. If they are out for 90 by the time they reach enough days to add up to more than 90 including the September trip the September days will be dropping out of the 180 that count as quickly as new days are added........if that makes sense.
I do understand, it is just too much to explain in a few lines. And I precid my comments toooo much.

The on line calculator is very good and let's you insert trial dates.
 
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I understand now thanks, I thought it was from the date I first entered the Schengen and the next 180 day period would start 180 days after that date, so really fed up now, life is even more complicated than I thought, god I wish I had been born Spanish x

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Rolling simply means it is a continuous period, each day that passes you count back the last 180 days and see if you were out for more than 90
A simple guide is; from the date you leave the UK and enter the EU (not including Eire) you count forward 6 months (180 days to be exact), then within that period you can only be out for a total of 90 days. However, at the end of the 6 months (days 181, 182, 183, etc…) if you have had enough of a break inbetween trips within that initial 6 month period, it is possible to continue staying in the EU provided at what ever day you are there (days 181, 182, 183 etc…) you can look back 180 days and not break the 90 day rule. Essentially the days in the EU on days 1, 2, 3, etc.. drop off the beginning owing the the rolling nature of the calculation.

Hope that makes sense?
 
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A simple guide is; from the date you leave the UK and enter the EU (not including Eire) you count forward 6 months (180 days to be exact), then within that period you can only be out for a total of 90 days. However, at the end of the 6 months (days 181, 182, 183, etc…) if you have had enough of a break inbetween trips within that initial 6 month period, it is possible to continue staying in the EU provided at what ever day you are there (days 181, 182, 183 etc…) you can look back 180 days and not break the 90 day rule. Essentially the days in the EU on days 1, 2, 3, etc.. drop off the beginning owing the the rolling nature of the calculation.

Hope that makes sense?
Thanks that does make sense , I was troubled 😟
 
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So I have done 29 in , if I now do 90 out and then go back for the last 60, what happens then ,
You can stay for another 30 days because as each day goes by you add a day but also lose one from your first visit as it becomes outside the 180. The 90 days out effectively resets the allowance.

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So I have done 29 in , if I now do 90 out and then go back for the last 60, what happens then ,
I think you would have 31 days left. and then would have to be out for a further 90.

Or if you came home after 60 and stayed out of Schengen for 60 you would then be able to go for another 60 days.

I'm considering some strategic use of the Balkans and Morocco ( neither is a hardship) Although if The Chinese have another go it will all be acedemic anyway
 
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You could also consider applying for a tourist visa, 96 euros (I think), then you can stay out as long as the visa allows
 

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We’re out in Spain this winter for 89 days (usually seven months ☹️) so back on 30th March. If we’re in the U.K. for 90 days we can’t cross the ditch till 1st July to stay legal.

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You could also consider applying for a tourist visa, 96 euros (I think), then you can stay out as long as the visa allows
Not heard of that one. Spain is hoping to start one at the end of ‘22 is that the one you meen?
 

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You could also consider applying for a tourist visa, 96 euros (I think), then you can stay out as long as the visa allows
Elaine has an Irish passport, and I do all the driving. So, as long as I behave myself so that we travel together, we can still do 180 days :LOL:. Not being smug, 'cos I DO have to behave myself ...

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Not heard of that one. Spain is hoping to start one at the end of ‘22 is that the one you meen?
Sorry i cant assist with Spain. The one I am considering is in France through the French consulate office. I don’t know if it would be transferrable to other Schengen areas in the EU. Is there anything on the Spanish consulate site?

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