1 or 2 Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 30A (1 Viewer)

Jun 26, 2022
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I'm fitting a Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 30A.

I've just noticed, on the "Specifications", that the Max battery capacity is 300Ah. Would I be better to put a second Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 30A in parallel?

I don't want to damage the single Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 30A by charging 600ah.

"The Blue Smart IP22 chargers can now be configured for synchronised charging using Victron VE Smart Wireless Networking. With this feature, make a 12V 60A, or even higher power charger that is (a) parallel redundant, (b) easy to mount in tight places, and (c) very attractive cost-wise".
 

Lenny HB

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Only really a problem if you are constantly charging batteries that have been discharged very low. You are probably only charging the batteries when they are down to 80% maybe 50% most of the time.

In my van Schaudt (Elecktroblock) recommends a second 18 amp charger should be fitted if you fit a second battery. I have 3 batteries and only the standard 18 amp charger, never had any problems. Most of our charging is done from solar anyway.
 
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PeteMallorca
Jun 26, 2022
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Only really a problem if you are constantly charging batteries that have been discharged very low. You are probably only charging the batteries when they are down to 80% maybe 50% most of the time.

In my van Schaudt (Elecktroblock) recommends a second 18 amp charger should be fitted if you fit a second battery. I have 3 batteries and only the standard 18 amp charger, never had any problems. Most of our charging is done from solar anyway.
Thanks Lenny.

Yes, it will only be used rarely, if I get the opportunity to plug in somewhere and boost the battery bank. I'm fitting an Orion-Tr Smart DC-DC Charger also, so I've got an emergency backup and extra charging when driving.

I'm almost ready to plan the switches and fuses next. Then, after finding them and getting them here, it will be time to put all the pretty blue stuff in the van. Even the batteries I got are blue šŸ¤£, 3 x ULTIMATRON LiFePO4 12.8V 200Ah.

Thanks again šŸ‘
 

Two on Tour

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I'm fitting a Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 30A.

I've just noticed, on the "Specifications", that the Max battery capacity is 300Ah. Would I be better to put a second Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 30A in parallel?

I don't want to damage the single Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 30A by charging 600ah.

"The Blue Smart IP22 chargers can now be configured for synchronised charging using Victron VE Smart Wireless Networking. With this feature, make a 12V 60A, or even higher power charger that is (a) parallel redundant, (b) easy to mount in tight places, and (c) very attractive cost-wise".

We've had our Victron Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 20A hooked up to our 280aH LifePo4 battery for the past 4 years and it's not coughed or spluttered yet when I have asked it to charge our lithium. As we are nearly always off-grid I saw no point in spending big bucks on a 240v charger that would rarely ever get used.
 

Lenny HB

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I'm fitting an Orion-Tr Smart DC-DC Charger also, so I've got an emergency backup and extra charging when driving.
A bit small for that size battery bank although you can fit two in parallel, have look at the Votronic range but before you fit anything too big make sure you have an uprated alternator.

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PeteMallorca
Jun 26, 2022
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Mallorca, Spain
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Benimar sport 340
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Benimar sport 340
We've had our Victron Blue Smart IP22 Charger 12V - 20A hooked up to our 280aH LifePo4 battery for the past 4 years and it's not coughed or spluttered yet when I have asked it to charge our lithium. As we are nearly always off-grid I saw no point in spending big bucks on a 240v charger that would rarely ever get used.
Thanks Two on Tour.

I am trying to plan everything without external AC supply but while I'm going through a complete replacement of the solar system, I'm trying to add some failsafe options.

I just didn't want to damage the one I've got, as and when I do have to use it.
 
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PeteMallorca
Jun 26, 2022
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Benimar sport 340
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A bit small for that size battery bank although you can fit two in parallel, have look at the Votronic range but before you fit anything too big make sure you have an uprated alternator.
Thanks Lenny.

I was a little concerned about that. I need to check the alternator but looking at it from above, it looks like a standard alternator.

The existing system is a mess and nothing is working as it should. This is why I'm changing everything.

Im thinking that I can try with the one Orion 12 12 30a that I've got and if it's not enough, I will have to upgrade the alternator and add a second Orion 12 12 30a.
 

Two on Tour

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Thanks Two on Tour.

I am trying to plan everything without external AC supply but while I'm going through a complete replacement of the solar system, I'm trying to add some failsafe options.

I just didn't want to damage the one I've got, as and when I do have to use it.

I don't get what damage your are likely to do by using just a single 30A charger, all it will do is take longer to recharge your battery bank.

Don't forget that Victron do a 3 output version of the Blue Smart IP22 12V - 30A charger that you could hook up an output to each of your 3 batteries.
 

Lenny HB

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Thanks Lenny.

I was a little concerned about that. I need to check the alternator but looking at it from above, it looks like a standard alternator.

The existing system is a mess and nothing is working as it should. This is why I'm changing everything.

Im thinking that I can try with the one Orion 12 12 30a that I've got and if it's not enough, I will have to upgrade the alternator and add a second Orion 12 12 30a.
Standard alternator is either a 90 or 110 amp but a lot of Motorhome converters fit an uprated one I think mine is 160 amp.
 

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