Campingaz 907 filler ⚠️

[Jabstatt]

I had two Gaslow direct fill 907 style cylinders on the boat. Had to abandon them because filling became very difficult and in Spain, impossible.

Oh MH have a fixed Gaslow installation with external filler and no issues anywhere.

Tony

 

[Insider]

I see this on VW forums/groups fairly often, along with proud posts with pictures of quite frankly frightening gas installations which have been home fitted. 'Built not bought' isn't such a boast when you see builds done by people with absolutely NO brains, and no sense of self-preservation.
Mind you I once saw a very expensive van on show at the NEC from a professional dealer, and the van had no drop out vents in any of the drawers under the pipe join for the gas hob.

Genuine question. Do any manufacturers put\need drop out vents under pipe joins. I have an autocruise forte with a manifold under the oven and have no drop out vents and seem to recall the same from the dethleff I had before that. Surely you'd have drop out vents all over the place - bbq point, truma heater, fridge etc?

 

[Just smiffy]

Only like they do with normal exchange cylinders you swap e.pty for a full one.

I think my sarcasm is missing the target, so they get refilled, it’s just the mechanism and the operator that may differ but anyone with the right tool and competence can refill it….

But calor then refill the empty one and sell it over and over again?

Think your thinking along the same lines Paul…

 

[CAB96]

I thought Campingaz was a mixture of propane and butane.

Butane only.

When camping in snow a couple of years ago, we had to open the (internal) gas locker door to allow the draft from the diesel heater to warm the bottle!

 

[PlacidoD]

Bought a 907 exchange last week £48 from our Flogas retailer !!!!
Is there any wonder that some try to refill them

I have a local Manchester supplier advertising on Ebay doing exchange 907 bottles for £35.00, a 904 for £31.88 and a 901 for £20.00.

My understanding is that in ordinary temperatures a 907 should power a two hob burner for something like 8 hours. So 16 hours of total use. That is an awful lot of kettle boiling/soup heating and egg frying! (though when I do the sums it is something approaching 15p per cup based on the price above!!)

I believe that prices like £35:00 and maybe less are common in the EU. On that basis and given the compressor fridge and diesel heating it makes no sense to go down the Gaslow refillable route. (Better to put that money towards a larger LiFePo4 battery upgrade!).

I am thinking of acquiring a 901 as a spare. That should keep me going for a while and avoid me being held to ransom re an outrageous price for a 907 in the back of beyond or just running out and with no supplier nearby.

Incidentally the Campingaz site says the cylinders are a mix of butane, propane and isobutane. Also it makes no mention of the 901 perhaps indicating they are being phased out?

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[gus-lopez]

I believe that prices like £35:00 and maybe less are common in the EU.

last time I asked it was 20€ for a 907 refill here in spain

 

[StillGoing]

last time I asked it was 20€ for a 907 refill here in spain

I paid €18.20 a couple of weeks ago in Spain.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

A 907 equivalent exchange was less than £1 in Morocco. But the bottles were a tad bashed about.

 

[LithiumConvert]

Better to put that money towards a larger LiFePo4 battery upgrade

I like the idea of a larger LiFePO4 battery bank but it needs an awfull lot of extra batteries to get anywhere near the enerby available in a bottle of LPG.

 

[SVMC15]

A 907 equivalent exchange was less than £1 in Morocco. But the bottles were a tad bashed about.

As long as you are using them the pressure will drop. If they survive the refill then they've passed the test!?

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[Pausim]

A 907 equivalent exchange was less than £1 in Morocco. But the bottles were a tad bashed about.

I wonder what they get filled with? Butane at 32psi as designed or propane at 125psi as not designed.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

I wonder what they get filled with? Butane at 32psi as designed or propane at 125psi as not designed.

It's butane.
Propane is more expensive in Morocco and not readily available. To buy a 907 equivalent bottle was 45 dhirams .around £4. A 6kg bottle was 80 Dhirams £7 and 8 d to 12 d to exchange it..
Single burner screw on tops were around 45D,£4 and washers around 10 off for 1 or 2 D.
Every household in Morocco uses gas for cooking and heating and some for lighting using the old gas gauze mantles.every other shop seems to sell/exchange gas bottles.

 

[Just smiffy]

It's butane.
Propane is more expensive in Morocco and not readily available. To buy a 907 equivalent bottle was 45 dhirams .around £4. A 6kg bottle was 80 Dhirams £7 and 8 d to 12 d to exchange it..
Single burner screw on tops were around 45D,£4 and washers around 10 off for 1 or 2 D.
Every household in Morocco uses gas for cooking and heating and some for lighting using the old gas gauze mantles.every other shop seems to sell/exchange gas bottles.

Couldn’t see any expiration dates on them either….

 

[CAB96]

I have a local Manchester supplier advertising on Ebay doing exchange 907 bottles for £35.00, a 904 for £31.88 and a 901 for £20.00.

Is that the one with the domestic garage floor full of bottles?

 

[PlacidoD]

Is that the one with the domestic garage floor full of bottles?

This one - M28 - Worsley:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17586187...pid=5339023013&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1

Actually this is a better link:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17586187...pid=5339023013&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1

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[StillGoing]

There are some very expensive rusty Campingaz cylinders for sale on eBay, some without the handle which means you’d have to buy that before you can do an exchange.

 

[Lenny HB]

Calor stopped filling Campingaz years ago, they are now all filled and serviced in France.

No wonder they are so expensive over here, that seems crazy what a waste of resorses.

 

[B+W vanman]

There are some very expensive rusty Campingaz cylinders for sale on eBay, some without the handle which means you’d have to buy that before you can do an exchange.

I imagine the vendor will do the exchange when the cylinder you purchased from him is empty, he is providing an exchange-only service, I believe.
Rightly or wrongly

 

[Lenny HB]

Filllpg is no longer up to date.

You need to use the website not the app.

Genuine question. Do any manufacturers put\need drop out vents under pipe joins. I have an autocruise forte with a manifold under the oven and have no drop out vents and seem to recall the same from the dethleff I had before that. Surely you'd have drop out vents all over the place - bbq point, truma heater, fridge etc?

All joints and connections should have drop vents.

 

[bigtwin]

I like the idea of a larger LiFePO4 battery bank but it needs an awfull lot of extra batteries to get anywhere near the enerby available in a bottle of LPG.

But you’re not trying to replicate the total stored energy, you only need to have the capacity to replace the equivalent energy used daily.

Ian

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[Pausim]

You need to use the website not the app.

I do use the website but have been disappointed of late. I don’t think they ever did an iOS app.

 

[CAB96]

I imagine the vendor will do the exchange when the cylinder you purchased from him is empty, he is providing an exchange-only service, I believe.
Rightly or wrongly

If you are referring to that ebay vendor, he won't be getting them exchanged, he will likely be refilling them himself.

 

[B+W vanman]

If you are referring to that ebay vendor, he won't be getting them exchanged, he will likely be refilling them himself.

Yes, that’s what I meant, he is the exchange service!
Not sure if it’s legal

 

[CAB96]

Yes, that’s what I meant, he is the exchange service!
Not sure if it’s legal

Might or might not be, but I wouldn't want to live next door

 

[Tonks]

I have a local Manchester supplier advertising on Ebay doing exchange 907 bottles for £35.00, a 904 for £31.88 and a 901 for £20.00.

My understanding is that in ordinary temperatures a 907 should power a two hob burner for something like 8 hours. So 16 hours of total use. That is an awful lot of kettle boiling/soup heating and egg frying! (though when I do the sums it is something approaching 15p per cup based on the price above!!)

I believe that prices like £35:00 and maybe less are common in the EU. On that basis and given the compressor fridge and diesel heating it makes no sense to go down the Gaslow refillable route. (Better to put that money towards a larger LiFePo4 battery upgrade!).

I am thinking of acquiring a 901 as a spare. That should keep me going for a while and avoid me being held to ransom re an outrageous price for a 907 in the back of beyond or just running out and with no supplier nearby.

Incidentally the Campingaz site says the cylinders are a mix of butane, propane and isobutane. Also it makes no mention of the 901 perhaps indicating they are being phased out?

My van uses gas only for cooking. I cook in it & make tea etc pretty much every day that I'm using the van. (ie. use the hob multiple times a day.)
I last replaced my 907 cylinder in May this year. The prior change was in October 2023, and the one before that in January 2022. So as you say, it would take a very, VERY long time to recoup the cost of switching to Gaslow or similar.
I do have a 901 spare, which I used to carry when the 907 was likely to be getting low. However nowadays I have a power bank and an induction hob, so if the gas runs out while I'm cooking dinner (which it usually does just at the point the meal is still inedible) I can swap my pan onto the induction. Campingaz have indeed stopped producing the 901s, and I suspect the popularity of portable induction hobs is partly why.

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[PlacidoD]

My van uses gas only for cooking. I cook in it & make tea etc pretty much every day that I'm using the van. (ie. use the hob multiple times a day.)
I last replaced my 907 cylinder in May this year. The prior change was in October 2023, and the one before that in January 2022. So as you say, it would take a very, VERY long time to recoup the cost of switching to Gaslow or similar.
I do have a 901 spare, which I used to carry when the 907 was likely to be getting low. However nowadays I have a power bank and an induction hob, so if the gas runs out while I'm cooking dinner (which it usually does just at the point the meal is still inedible) I can swap my pan onto the induction. Campingaz have indeed stopped producing the 901s, and I suspect the popularity of portable induction hobs is partly why.

Useful info. Thanks!
I am definitely planning a swap to LiFePo4 and considering an inverter (but already have a Delta 2. However I am unclear as to where to position it to best advantage) so an induction hob might make better sense.