CAMC CHARGES

ceejayt said:
We rarely stay on club sites but one exception is Abbey Wood which is so useful for London trip. I keep the membership up because on the odd occasion a couple of times a year maybe, that we really need a club site then we can use them.

I keep the Candy membership so as to be able to use their 'stop off' facility to empty tanks, fill water etc
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Ditto, (more so Crystal Palace) but there are several alternatives so won’t prevent my departure.
 
I kept it just in case for the past year. However they wanted £69 a night for Rowntree park a few months back.

I know it’s nice, I know it’s busy, but £69!

The CL’s with electric have also now jumped up to circa £20 -£25 a night. Alas there aren’t many without electric.

Not for me any longer.
 
It's the extra charge for wifi that gets me. And why not have reduced price for non electric.
 
We only use the CL's we have just spent 3 nights at Haven in Weymouth with all the facilities, although we didn't use the swimming pool or entertainment, £15 a night with EHU and water on the pitch, so £35 is too much for me.

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Googlebot said:
I kept it just in case for the past year. However they wanted £69 a night for Rowntree park a few months back.

I know it’s nice, I know it’s busy, but £69!

The CL’s with electric have also now jumped up to circa £20 -£25 a night. Alas there aren’t many without electric.

Not for me any longer.
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Agree £69 is too much but I bet you would struggle to get a booking lots of the time.
 
Funnymunny said:
From the emails I had off them when I resigned after 27 years I don't think they care as that was the way the emails read.
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We resigned from them last month after over 35 years. They couldn't give a dam and didn't even have the decency to reply to my email. We've been a loyal member to this robbing organisation all this time. Only ourselves to blame. In all the years they've never really given a toss for us members and there only god is money.
 
Just had a night at Burrs Country Park in Bury, £40…….I certainly feel that’s way too much for a club member to pay…..but it was full so guess there is a degree of supply and demand?

I have also had an email suggesting that prices for next year are lower, um will see?

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John and Jo said:
It's the extra charge for wifi that gets me. And why not have reduced price for non electric.
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Completely agree that it's wrong to charge members for WiFi. It's free in most places these days including probably most other camping sites.
 
Googlebot said:
I kept it just in case for the past year. However they wanted £69 a night for Rowntree park a few months back.

I know it’s nice, I know it’s busy, but £69!

The CL’s with electric have also now jumped up to circa £20 -£25 a night. Alas there aren’t many without electric.

Not for me any longer.
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This is interesting regarding wifi, when staying at a site in France they explained they charged for wifi because it pays to keep the system in operation it helps pay for someone’s job and the wifi system they put in was not given to them they have to pay for it along with its maintenance. So why do members expect it for free ?
 
Thornebt said:
Completely agree that it's wrong to charge members for WiFi. It's free in most places these days including probably most other camping sites.
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So you pay hundreds of pounds to cover a site with wifi, you have to maintain it you have to pay a provider for the broadband and your customers want it for free. Either it’s In The cost of a pitch or you pay for it, it’s never free.
 
John and Jo said:
It's the extra charge for wifi that gets me. And why not have reduced price for non electric.
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Thornebt said:
Completely agree that it's wrong to charge members for WiFi. It's free in most places these days including probably most other camping sites.
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CAMC are now giving free Wi-Fi. Apparently it is a lower quality to the paid for version.

You have to re-login every hour but it was more than adequate on the couple of sites I stayed on recently.
 
Janine said:
CAMC are now giving free Wi-Fi. Apparently it is a lower quality to the paid for version.

You have to re-login every hour but it was more than adequate on the couple of sites I stayed on recently.
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Have they publicised this at all? I didn't know about it.

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Coolcats said:
So you pay hundreds of pounds to cover a site with wifi, you have to maintain it you have to pay a provider for the broadband and your customers want it for free. Either it’s In The cost of a pitch or you pay for it, it’s never free.
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With the pitch prices being quite high I think it should be included at no extra cost. You don't pay for the showers but not everyone uses them.
 
Coolcats said:
So you pay hundreds of pounds to cover a site with wifi, you have to maintain it you have to pay a provider for the broadband and your customers want it for free. Either it’s In The cost of a pitch or you pay for it, it’s never free.
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Agree, if people want it as an extra, then pay on top….if they merge it into the pitch fee, then it’s something else of little use…..wish electric would be charged the same

most people have a phone with data, and if away from the network, then that’s a good thing….
 
John and Jo said:
And why not have reduced price for non electric.
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If a pitch has an EHU supply, the Electric cost has to be included in the pitch price and cannot be charged separately .. as I understand that is OFCOM rules not the CMC rule

The only way around that is to have metered electric.. which some sites now have ..

There are some sites with separated areas for EHU and Non EHU .. and charge accordingly
 
lorger said:
They have posted some offers on Facebook, I don’t think they were expecting the backlash they received
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The backlash was met with the usual CMC arrogance :rolleyes:
Once you get past the headline "Price drop on over 1.5m pitches", you find the price reductions are actually pathetic. And of course contain the usual "up to"

Price drop

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Coolcats said:
So you pay hundreds of pounds to cover a site with wifi, you have to maintain it you have to pay a provider for the broadband and your customers want it for free. Either it’s In The cost of a pitch or you pay for it, it’s never free.
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OK, included in the prices.
 
I really don't think that all the members leaving is making any difference to CAMC - I've got a weekend booking in November for Rowntree Park for a gig I'm going to on the Saturday night.

I've since been trying to book the Friday night since making the booking back in May and if anything the site is getting busier every time I check with only a random handful of date's left for the month now.

I know that for York there's a few CL's and private sites around the area, but they are all bus and/or taxi rides late at night after a late night out so Rowntree is perfect for us

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scotjimland said:
If a pitch has an EHU supply, the Electric cost has to be included in the pitch price and cannot be charged separately .. as I understand that is OFCOM rules not the CMC rule

The only way around that is to have metered electric.. which some sites now have ..

There are some sites with separated areas for EHU and Non EHU .. and charge accordingly
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Yeah I've mentioned this on EV threads, the rule is precisely if you charge for electricity you cannot charge ABOVE the price they are paying the supplier (as CAMC are not a electricity supplier). The price per unit + allowable fees for maintaince have to be aligned to that paid with a not for profit focus. This is actually to protect people with static vans in it's intent in law, as otherwise I suspect Haven/Bourne Leisure would be charging a TON more for people with statics (and as many people reside in them for 11 months of the year thats a major issue). Thats why rolling it into the pitch fees can make sense as no metering, thus not a supplier, and not offering a without EHU rate means we can't "question" how much the EHU is billed for and thus the unit rate (which is likely horrendous)..

However I've been to sites (privately owned) where you only pay if you connect to the post so some (larger) and smaller sites seem to interpret this differently. I'm not sure they've interpreted this right and I've stayed on a CACC pitch with a EHU that went unused when I was on a grass without EHU rate on > 2 occasions this year myself.
 
Should add ref: pricing, we have booked our Chrismas break with CACC this site -> price per night for a similar stay with the CAMC was more money for less days... £280 for CAMC for 4 ni, £200 for CACC for 6. Similar type sites, we didn't care where we went just wanted a pub walkable from a site, plus a town nearby walkable with dog walks...

We will renew CAMC membership but like many won't be going to many sites and go CL's instead (total for this membership year/season of club sites has been 3 stays and a total of 8 nights). I mean the £15 a ni disocunt did cover the extras for that so we may renew if only because we really like one of the CAMC sites near us (Kessingland) when out of season and it being lower in price. We've stayed approx 4x as many nights at CACC so they will 100% get our renewal money.

CACC is far more reasonable due to offering pitches without EHU, with reasonable discounts, our average this year has been £20 a night for a CACC site for 2 adults + dog, which is what we would call "reasonable". CAMC average price paid (with EHU) is nearer £45 pn for same.

This is obviously exclusing all CL/CS sites.
 
I used the Ludham Bridge site three weeks ago. It was full and had been almost totally full in September. The week after, I spent a week on a CL, just one free pitch.

There is, of course, the business model that the business ignores complaints and spends its time on the satisfied customers. Or 'people complain about their companies for the same reasons they complain about the weather - not because they hope to change anything'. Or the master stroke where I worked which was getting overwhelmed with complaints; the boss dumped all the complaints in the bin.
 
starquake said:
However I've been to sites (privately owned) where you only pay if you connect to the post so some (larger) and smaller sites seem to interpret this differently. I'm not sure they've interpreted this right
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likewise... they are either interpreting wrong or just not applying the rule.. and don't want the expense of metering
 
scotjimland said:
likewise... they are either interpreting wrong or just not applying the rule.. and don't want the expense of metering
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I just think it's more likely they don't want the question on just how much the price difference is due to the electricity costs as they "claim" is the main reason for their price rises. It's that or they signed up 12 months ago on a "long ish fix" at the ridicolous to many 99p a unit type rates some commercial organisations were "foolish" to be taken in by. (Current commercial rates being lower than the price cap (fixes this year can be had at 20-25p rates, with half hour metering showing average of 12-15p a unit). If that is the case commercially their fix will end sometime this winter, and maybe prices will drop given the current commercial metering.

I, and I suspect many here, will happily run off grid all year round for the right price as we do at all the Rallys/shows etc we attend so please offer it, it's totally nuts that CAMC don't offer it except on a small amount of sites doing metering trials where it's £5 a ni discount... which hardly touches sides when you charging £20pp/pn min.

But we've also commented on the other CAMC thread, none of this explains their lack of investment in things like solar on their sites to reduce their costs. A solar install on each toilet block would likely offset a fair proportion of EACH sites costs for EHU. (Commercially likely a 3-5 year payback after which prices can reduce for members). Go ask farmers in your area what they've been doing, and you'll see a vast majority of farms now have solar on barns etc to offset their "high" grid costs.

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