Pet passport obtained in France

[Don Campbell]

We were given the opportunity of signing-if there was punishment it was totally self inflicted - and the non signing the cause of much of the NI difficulties
petitions have been raised
It was promised to look at the whole thing
But Ofcourse hadn’t happened
The next government will sign up to equivalence in plant and animal health

By "Next Government" I'm assuming you are assuming Labour will win, but who said they would sign up to equivalence and when did they say that?

 

[Deepingvet]

We have just got our two a Spanish PP, it cost €140 that included two rabies jab…only took half an hour..

 

[Don Campbell]

I assume your vets have the same reason as ours, at £225 although another locally is £250. When I asked why his charges had taken a hike from last year, £190, his response was that it was an inconvenience to them and he charged less than local high as he wanted the business. Well I won't be using their services any more, bloody cheeky bar- steward.

No my vet just said "It's a lot of work" which was when I ended the conversation because it would work out at about £500 per hour.

 

[15edward]

Don Campbell- I’m not paying for ThecTelegraph but I see there’s a headline in TODAYS Telegraph paper where it’s discussed
if you subscribe maybe that will enlighten you to the possibility

 

[Don Campbell]

Don Campbell- I’m not paying for ThecTelegraph but I see there’s a headline in TODAYS Telegraph paper where it’s discussed
if you subscribe maybe that will enlighten you to the possibility

I get The Telegraph on a 3month for £1 deal but I couldn't find anything and a search just brought up old stuff about travel problems and nothing to do with PP'S other than what we already know.. If you find better info please post it.

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[maz]

I get The Telegraph on a 3month for £1 deal but I couldn't find anything and a search just brought up old stuff about travel problems and nothing to do with PP'S other than what we already know.. If you find better info please post it.

I think this is the article that 15edward is referring to - but I have no intention of subscribing to the Telegraph.

 

[Don Campbell]

I think this is the article that 15edward is referring to - but I have no intention of subscribing to the Telegraph.

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Thanks Maz. I'll look it up.

 

[15edward]

Also mentioned 20th feb this year in the Mail
and discussed as needed in FT 4th dec 22- bit that’s just FTs opinion

 

[Don Campbell]

Found, read it and not really holding my breath. The article itself has no real substance to it and is no more than a sort of pie in the sky list of possibilities that if Starmer agreed to would probably see our negotiators shafted again.

 

[varaizian]

The original pet passport was devised by the UK and was necessary to bring animals into Britain when EU member. Brexit gave the EU the opportunity to punish the UK further for leaving the club.
I suppose if there were enough travellers with pets crossing the channel willing to put together a petition we might get somewhere but alas the government have bigger issues to overcome.

I recall that the UK were offered the opportunity to negotiate the renewal of the Pet Passport scheme but declined to do so. Ditto the touring musicians visas and several other bits of random collateral damage. The government knew exactly what it was doing but opted for the hardest division it could achieve.

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[MichaelT]

I recall that the UK were offered the opportunity to negotiate the renewal of the Pet Passport scheme but declined to do so. Ditto the touring musicians visas and several other bits of random collateral damage. The government knew exactly what it was doing but opted for the hardest division it could achieve.

That's Boris for you.

 

[SWW]

Thanks for this heads-up. Yes, the vet yesterday copied all the rabies details across from the previous records (not a PP, but the vets’ vax certificate), but nevertheless I’ll keep that document until we get a new rabies jab (in France, next year). It’s all such a pain, isn’t it?!

We always travel with old passport and animal healt certificates even though we have had German passports for 2 years. We needed to show them once as they queried a date.

 

[Dymockn]

Firstly, my apologies if this has been answered already in this thread or another. I’m sure it will have somewhere.
We are currently in France with our dog and entered with an AHC. We see a French vet on Friday for his worming tablet, which is 4 days before our return trip on the Euro Tunnel.
I intend to ask the vet if a they will issue a pet passport. Should they be ok to do this:
Am I right in thinking it’s probably easier to get another rabies vaccination so the date of passport issue/microchip read matches the vaccination date? Otherwise, if they transfer the current rabies vaccination details over won’t they have to lie about the issue date of the passport/microchip read to ensure it’s on or before the vaccination date?
If I get a new rabies vaccination wouldn’t I officially have to wait 21 days before returning to the UK though? Or do I use my AHC to get back and then my new pet passport for future travel?

 

[MichaelT]

Firstly, my apologies if this has been answered already in this thread or another. I’m sure it will have somewhere.
We are currently in France with our dog and entered with an AHC. We see a French vet on Friday for his worming tablet, which is 4 days before our return trip on the Euro Tunnel.
I intend to ask the vet if a they will issue a pet passport. Should they be ok to do this:
Am I right in thinking it’s probably easier to get another rabies vaccination so the date of passport issue/microchip read matches the vaccination date? Otherwise, if they transfer the current rabies vaccination details over won’t they have to lie about the issue date of the passport/microchip read to ensure it’s on or before the vaccination date?
If I get a new rabies vaccination wouldn’t I officially have to wait 21 days before returning to the UK though? Or do I use my AHC to get back and then my new pet passport for future travel?

They should put down issue date as date chip was read. New rabies jab would be 3 or 4 weeks from having it done so get both AHC and PP stamped for worming and re enter on AHC. You're then ready to go on PP next time.

 

[Dymockn]

They should put down issue date as date chip was read. New rabies jab would be 3 or 4 weeks from having it done so get both AHC and PP stamped for worming and re enter on AHC. You're then ready to go on PP next time.

Ok thanks

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[ericonabike]

Agreed. Exactly what I did two years or so ago. AHC for initial return, have used PP (with three year rabies jab) without any issues ever since.

 

[maz]

Firstly, my apologies if this has been answered already in this thread or another. I’m sure it will have somewhere.
We are currently in France with our dog and entered with an AHC. We see a French vet on Friday for his worming tablet, which is 4 days before our return trip on the Euro Tunnel.
I intend to ask the vet if a they will issue a pet passport. Should they be ok to do this:
Am I right in thinking it’s probably easier to get another rabies vaccination so the date of passport issue/microchip read matches the vaccination date? Otherwise, if they transfer the current rabies vaccination details over won’t they have to lie about the issue date of the passport/microchip read to ensure it’s on or before the vaccination date?
If I get a new rabies vaccination wouldn’t I officially have to wait 21 days before returning to the UK though? Or do I use my AHC to get back and then my new pet passport for future travel?

Obtaining an EU Pet Passport in France is not that easy. There is no legal reason for a French vet not to issue one to a British resident but that doesn't mean to say that they will. There are all sorts of misinterpretations of the 'Br*x*t statement' on the I-cad website, that generally lead to French vets refusing to do so. Unless you know for sure that the vet you plan to visit for worming will issue a Pet Passport, then I wouldn't leave it until that late - you might well fail at the eleventh hour. I will PM you my list of French vets that have recently issued Pet Passports to Brits.

EU vets can transfer rabies vaccination details from an AHC into a new Pet Passport - but it needs to be done properly. This means that they must copy over the details of the vaccine and stamp and sign it. It is no good them just writing something like 'see AHC'. If you do get rabies vaccination details transferred, then the vet must enter the 'date of implantation' for the microchip, not the 'date of reading'.

It is often easier to get a vet to just administer a fresh rabies vaccination - this way there can be no cock-up over date of reading the microchip. As this vaccination will be a booster, there is no need to wait for 21 days for it to have effect. If at all possible, get a 3-year rabies vaccination administered.

In either case, I would only get the worming completed on the AHC - and save a space in the new Pet Passport. If you travel fairly frequently the worming spaces will soon get used up and then you will need a replacement Pet Passport.

Please, please do read the 'How to Complete Pet Passports' booklet - and check, while still at the vets, that they have completed it properly.

'How to Complete Pet Passports' booklet

For those planning to obtain an EU Pet Passport on their next trip abroad, the booklet 'How to Complete Pet Passports' provides all the information you need to check that the vet has completed the Pet Passport correctly. This booklet was issued by APHA/DEFRA when we were still members of the EU.

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[Dymockn]

Obtaining an EU Pet Passport in France is not that easy. There is no legal reason for a French vet not to issue one to a British resident but that doesn't mean to say that they will. There are all sorts of misinterpretations of the 'Br*x*t statement' on the I-cad website, that generally lead to French vets refusing to do so. Unless you know for sure that the vet you plan to visit for worming will issue a Pet Passport, then I wouldn't leave it until that late - you might well fail at the eleventh hour. I will PM you my list of French vets that have recently issued Pet Passports to Brits.

EU vets can transfer rabies vaccination details from an AHC into a new Pet Passport - but it needs to be done properly. This means that they must copy over the details of the vaccine and stamp and sign it. It is no good them just writing something like 'see AHC'. If you do get rabies vaccination details transferred, then the vet must enter the 'date of implantation' for the microchip, not the 'date of reading'.

It is often easier to get a vet to just administer a fresh rabies vaccination - this way there can be no cock-up over date of reading the microchip. As this vaccination will be a booster, there is no need to wait for 21 days for it to have effect. If at all possible, get a 3-year rabies vaccination administered.

In either case, I would only get the worming completed on the AHC - and save a space in the new Pet Passport. If you travel fairly frequently the worming spaces will soon get used up and then you will need a replacement Pet Passport.

Please, please do read the 'How to Complete Pet Passports' booklet - and check, while still at the vets, that they have completed it properly.

'How to Complete Pet Passports' booklet

For those planning to obtain an EU Pet Passport on their next trip abroad, the booklet 'How to Complete Pet Passports' provides all the information you need to check that the vet has completed the Pet Passport correctly. This booklet was issued by APHA/DEFRA when we were still members of the EU.

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

Thank you very much, very useful

 

[Louie25]

Thank you very much, very useful

Dymockn can you let us know how you got on please? Thank you

 

[Dymockn]

Just got back from the vet. She was lovely and spoke good English. She said she has always been happy to issue French pet passports in the past as she understands the current process for us is expensive and a waste of time but…. She says the rules have changed recently and the dog/microchip has to be registered to a French address and be in the French national database before a passport can be issued. Once the forms are filled in they actually send the microchip paperwork to the French address and you need this paperwork to obtain a French pet passport. We have a friend who lives in France so are going to proceed with the process. It does mean we won’t be able to get the passport completed until next time we are in France

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[maz]

Just got back from the vet. She was lovely and spoke good English. She said she has always been happy to issue French pet passports in the past as she understands the current process for us is expensive and a waste of time but…. She says the rules have changed recently and the dog/microchip has to be registered to a French address and be in the French national database before a passport can be issued. Once the forms are filled in they actually send the microchip paperwork to the French address and you need this paperwork to obtain a French pet passport. We have a friend who lives in France so are going to proceed with the process. It does mean we won’t be able to get the passport completed until next time we are in France

Unfortunately this is one of the many variations on a theme that French vets come out with. As far as anyone has been able to ascertain, there have been no recent 'rule changes' and the various interpretations all come down to that badly-worded 'Br*x*t statement' on the I-cad website. Unfortunately, again, this is why obtaining an EU Pet Passport in France involves a lot of asking around at vets to determine exactly what each one will or won't do.