HY4 vs E&P levellers

[mrE]

I‘m considering getting levellers, the dealer offers both HY4 and E&P, should I be drawn more to one than the other?
Any feedback would be welcome.
Thanks

 

[DuxDeluxe]

We have E&P fitted by SAP in Doncaster. First class system

 

[dash300]

Having seen the EP units at the NEC recently I was very impressed and reviewed very positively. Big old units too so payload will need to be considered. Doncaster is a bit of a way for me so will use Courtside Conversions just down the road in Tiverton (Devon) who get good reviews and are EP dealers.

 

[funflair]

You say your van is N+B in your profile the HY4 system will only support up yo 6t so if it's a Flair you would struggle, there are a lot more E+P systems around than the AL-KO so they must be OK, a lot of the selling points for the AL-KO system I just don't get as they seem to be offering solutions to problems that don't exist.

 

[Lenny HB]

I notice the Al-Ko is 13kg heavier might be of a concern for people with smaller vans.
Guess who owns E&P?

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[mrE]

Thank you all, it is the iSmove, so not a weight issue to lift. But payload to consider.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

You say your van is N+B in your profile the HY4 system will only support up yo 6t so if it's a Flair you would struggle, there are a lot more E+P systems around than the AL-KO so they must be OK, a lot of the selling points for the AL-KO system I just don't get as they seem to be offering solutions to problems that don't exist.

I thought that they had heavier duty ones - I queried it with SAP as my van is 5.3 tonnes and right on the limit for the smaller ones

 

[ManTheVan]

LNB Towbars in Bristol fitted our HPC levellers which have been great. They are just off Jct 16 of the M5 at Aztec West. It may be a closer fitter to you?

 

[funflair]

Thank you all, it is the iSmove, so not a weight issue to lift. But payload to consider.

I think HPC are a bit lighter than E+P and are gaining a decent market share as they are standard fit on a few German vans now rather than E+P.

 

[funflair]

I thought that they had heavier duty ones - I queried it with SAP as my van is 5.3 tonnes and right on the limit for the smaller one

The AL-KO website quotes 6t but you are OK with E+P for weight as they do various different rams, likewise HPC.

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[DuxDeluxe]

The AL-KO website quotes 6t but you are OK with E+P for weight as they do various different rams, likewise HPC.

I’m on a sprinter chassis not Al-ko which might be it

 

[Pausim]

The HY4 has a weighing system for checking gross weight and axle loads. Might be a helpful facility if you are weight watching.

 

[Two on Tour]

Another very happy customer here with the E&P system fitted at SAP.

 

[funflair]

I’m on a sprinter chassis not Al-ko which might be it

Hi Duck the AL-KO is in reference to the manufacturer of the HY4 system rather than the chassis.

 

[solaris]

Hpc blurb just says lighter because of aluminium. How does weight compare with E&P?

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[ManTheVan]

Hpc blurb just says lighter because of aluminium. How does weight compare with E&P?

HPC is quoted at 40kg
E&P at 55kg

Unless you are really tight on payload, I don’t think that the 15kg will make a massive difference, but we went for HPC because it had the same functionality for a smaller weight and price, and Bristol is within reach for us. LNB did a fine job, even manufacturing a neat mounting plate for the hydraulic pump so it could be installed in our garage.

TBH, I think most of the systems are very similar and do the same job, so it’s down to personal choice.

 

[funflair]

HPC is quoted at 40kg
E&P at 55kg

Unless you are really tight on payload, I don’t think that the 15kg will make a massive difference, but we went for HPC because it had the same functionality for a smaller weight and price, and Bristol is within reach for us. LNB did a fine job, even manufacturing a neat mounting plate for the hydraulic pump so it could be installed in our garage.

TBH, I think most of the systems are very similar and do the same job, so it’s down to personal choice.

I think you are correct in saying that there is not much to choose between HPC and E+P, the one that stands out as being different is the AL-KO HY4 system as instead of a central pump unit it uses a smaller pump at each corner, personally I think it just adds unnecessary complication, although I agree the corner weighing is a good tool, or is it a gimmick? I think Goldschmitt have something similar on a single pump set up.

 

[Gina M]

Another satisfied customer here for E&P fitted by SAP

 

[mrE]

Thank you all, lots to consider

 

[Lazyboy]

E & P. Use A & E Leisure at Northwich.

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[Albacore]

Another E&P fan, fitted by Courtside Conversions in Tiverton

 

[BillyBeckers]

Has anyone ever had a problem with their Levelling System not retracting, or getting stuck. I mentioned to my local servicing agent that I was thinking about getting a system fitted when the Van was in for some work and he advised not to bother. He said they have regular call outs to instances of Rams / Pistons failing to retract

 

[funflair]

Only had E&P for 10 years so far, but never had that issue or heard of any friends with similar, if I had a problem I would read the instructions and pull them up manually.

 

[ManTheVan]

Only had E&P for 10 years so far, but never had that issue or heard of any friends with similar, if I had a problem I would read the instructions and pull them up manually.

Absolutely. We haven’t had that issue either, but, as funflair says, I would use the manual back-up pump if so.