Oyster Mobile Satellite (iPcopter) & ITV/BBC/40D/5Demand iPlayer etc???!

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  1. Skeggysue

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    Can anyone help?
    We have recently had the Oyster mobile Internet fitted to our motorhome as we need to stay in touch with our business when we are away, especially when we are touring in and around Europe. We had this set up fitted just before we set off for 2 months touring around Spain/France/Germany in April May of this year and I must say, that apart from a few set up & teething problems, we have found our mobile Internet set up invaluable. Not cheap by any means though and for most people, I would say it is not really worth the financial outlay or the data costs! Stick to a dongle and wifi booster! However, Like I say, we are fairly impressed by our set up and we do not regret our purchase!
    Now - apart from using this system for business use, we were looking forward to using it to watch catch up TV websites such as ITV player, BBC iplayer, 40D, 5Demand etc. We knew we could not access these websites through our Oyster mobile Internet connection when we are outside the UK but we thought we'd be able to view them on our iPad or laptop when in the UK - but much to our disappointment, we have discovered since returning home to the UK, that this is NOT the case at all and when we log in to to any of these catch up TV websites, it comes up with a message saying NOT AVAILABLE OUTSIDE THE UK! We ARE in the UK but obviously our set up is sending out a signal that says differently!!!!
    We use iPcopter as our service provider for the Oyster mobile Internet and this company is a German based business and I presume it must be something to do with this? Does anyone know
    if there is a solution to this problem for when we are in the UK?
    Thank you in anticipation.
    Sue
     
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    Hi

    I dont know much about this but my brother had same problem as he wanted to watch UK tv at his flat in Spain so i asked the same question on here. I was told he would need to download a proxy(makes it think your in UK) one of our members on here JJ who lives outside the uk advised me on this and as far as im aware my brother has it working fine.

    Hope this helps a little until someone else comes along
     
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    I use a proxy server.

    I can choose whether to be in the UK or the USA.

    Watching telly on the internet via an expensive data package?

    That is flash !!!!

    JJ :Cool:
     
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    Thank you everyone, you have been very helpful and it is much appreciated.

    Can you actually switch between IP addresses when using a proxy server? I ask this question as my main concern would be if changing IP addresses would adversely interfere with the data package that we have with iPcopter?

    Sue
     
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    How ethical is living outside the UK watching BBC outside the UK without a licence?
     
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    Good point!
     
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    No licence needed to watch iPlayer, 4OD et cetera.
     
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    Better point!:BigGrin:
     
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    Thats ok then , so while we have to pay to have the services and production, its ok for all and sundry to watch it for free.

    So all I have to do is cancel my TV licence and watch it on iPlayer, 4OD etc...

    Thaks for that... BBC RIP..
     
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    Did Sue say they don't have a licence? I don't see it's anymore unethical watching across the channel than watching it anywhere away from the house.
     
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    Have you ever watched anything on YouTube that breached copyright?
     
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    LOL Bad weekend?v:Wink:

    Cheer up

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    Not the issue...

    If you are living abroad and you want to watch the BBC live or otherwise and according to their webpage its only available to UK residents.

    So if someone in Poland/Bulgaria whatever wants to watch the BBC, why should they not pay? I do and I suspect without the licence fee the BBC would end.

    I could be wrong, but, in theory (to be verified by the Legal Eagles on here) could be in breach of the Theft Act.
    Obtaining services dishonestly (Section 11)

    The defendant:
    obtains for himself or another;
    services;
    dishonestly;
    knowing the services are made available on the basis that payment has been, is being or will be made for or in respect of them or that they might be; and
    avoids or intends to avoid payment in full or in part.

    This offence replaces obtaining services by deception in Section 1 of the Theft Act 1978 which is repealed by the Act.

    The defendant must have the necessary intention at the time that the service is obtained (section 11 (2) (c)).

    In many cases, the defendant will also have committed an offence under Section 2 of the Act by making a false representation that payment will be made or made in full. Prosecutors must decide which offence better reflects the criminality involved. The maximum sentence for the Section 11 offence is five years' imprisonment.

    Charging practice

    Section 11 will cover circumstances where the defendant:
    obtains chargeable data or software over the internet without paying;
    orders a meal in a restaurant knowing he has no means to pay;
    attaches a decoder to his TV to enable him to access chargeable satellite services without paying;
    uses the services of a members' club without paying and without being a member.


    Intent can be proven by hiding your IP address (deception)
    Chargeble TV, I suspect that this could apply to the BBC....

    Unlikely to be prosecuted, but its the principle... Much as I detest the BBC, we are by British Law forced to pay them to provide a service.
     
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    They are not living abroad? Sue just said when they are away from home in Europe. No different to me going to France this August and watching BBC there. I have a licence at my home.
    I agree with all off the above if a licence has not been purchased
     
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    My posting does not relate to them, its about europeans who watch the BBC and dont wish to pay. I have a sat dish and i watch the BBC when I am away, thats covered by my licence, but, I have paid, just like the OP.
     
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    As you clearly state your post is off topic...perhaps you'd like to start your own thread and not hijack this one? :Smile:


    To the OP:

    Your IP address will be showing as Non-UK as all your data will already be passing through IPCopters proxy.

    You may not be able to change your proxy as this might be in violation of your T's & C's as they need to monitor your traffic. This might also mean you can't change your proxy for technical reasons.

    Also, if you can change to a proxy service to show you are in the UK be very wary of free services...most of them I wouldn't trust with a barge pole.

    Here is a possible solution...use a slingbox at your home address to stream the TV from your house to your van.

    This is assuming you have broadband and TV services at your house. A slingbox will connect to your home equipment (freeview box, freesat box, sky box etc.) and you can then watch & control said boxes from your van and if said boxes are recording versions then you could have your very own 'on demand' services not limited to the ones available on the internet.

    For more info, google slingbox.
     
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    Bryan,

    I have a Echostar slingbox linked to a 10meg network and the connecion speed/viewability is in some cases poor.

    By the way, how was I hijacking the thread?
     
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    Mr ShiftZZ... How "ethical" is it for the BBC to charge you for a 12 month licence fee but stop you using their services when you are away for a month on holiday?

    JJ :Cool:
     
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    agree all the fee goes to the BBC,

    but you must have a liecence if you have a TV in the UK not if you watch BBC.

    you may not watch or intend to watch BBC
     
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