North Yorkshire Ban Confirmed

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  1. John & Joan

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    The decision, in respect of the proposed prohibition of overnight (11pm to 7am) parking of motor caravans, various streets in the Borough of Scarborough, was taken by David Bowe, Corporate Director - Business and Environmental Services in consultation with Executive Members, County Councillors Chris Metcalfe and Don Mackenzie on 6 August 2015.
    There has been no call-in lodged.
    The decision(s) will therefore be implemented.

    The following executive decision has been taken: -
    (i) The proposals to implement an 11pm until 7am prohibition of motor-caravans are implemented permanently at the following locations:
    a. The Beach, Crescent Hill, The Crescent, Filey
    b. The Parade (A174 Lythe Bank), Sandsend
    c. North Promenade, East Terrace, Royal Crescent, Love Lane, North Terrace
    d. Church Street, Whitby
    e. Sandside, Foreshore Road, Esplanade, Scarborough

    (ii) The A174 Sandsend to Raithwaite, locations at Cayton Bay and Royal Albert Drive, Scarborough will become free of restrictions for overnight motor-caravan parking following the expiry of the recent temporary order

    (iii) A resident’s motor caravan permit is introduced to allow residents of the streets concerned who own a motor caravan an exemption to the order

    (iv) An exemption for those non-residents displaying a blue badge is not included in the order

    (v) The proposals are monitored and any unforeseen issues are examined.

    By whom: David Bowe, Corporate Director for Business and Environmental Services in consultation with Executive Members, County Councillors Chris Metcalfe and Don Mackenzie
    On: 6 August 2015
     
  2. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

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    David Bowe, Corporate Director - Business and Environmental Services in consultation with Executive Members, County Councillors Chris Metcalfe and Don Mackenzie

    Titles say it all, jumped up little Hitlers, we have them down here as well, Executive Members of some stupid over executised committee with members who really dont have a clue

    Peter
     
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  3. jaykay

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    Very short sighted.
     
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  4. John & Joan

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    The A174 Sandsend to Raithwaite, locations at Cayton Bay and Royal Albert Drive, Scarborough will become free of restrictions for overnight motor-caravan parking following the expiry of the recent temporary order
     
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    Perhaps a protest is in order, Clog up their streets with motorhomes ? A slow drive through Scarborough, very slow:cool:
     
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  6. GJH

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    Utter rubbish. It's a delegation system just like private companies have with their managers. All such decisions are subject to being called in for scrutiny and change but, as John's OP says, there has been no call-in lodged. That means that the rest of the council agrees with the decision or, at least, has no valid grounds on which to challenge it.
    Hopefully that is posted in jest.
    The decision followed a full - and well publicised - consultation. That resulted in some of the temporary orders being made permanent, in order to balance the interests of everyone, but also (as John has since posted) resulted in some of the temporary orders not being made permanent, recognising that there was no case for them in those roads.
     
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  7. wiljoy

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    Come on funsters this is the UK so we expect this treatment to motor homers. They totally love our money but hate our mode of transport. The once touring freedom in the UK has long gone. We're staying on an Aire in southern central France for a few days. FREE hedged pitch, FREE waste and fresh water, FREE toilets, FREE 16amp unmetered electric. The villagers ALL welcome us and the Marie visits the Aire to thank us for visiting.
    Who the hell wants to bother the UK. I'd rather spend my money where it's appreciated.
     
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  8. GJH

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    Some lack of correlation? :whistle::)
     
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  9. Ber090

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    I understand that Canterbury is so pleased with the P&R aire it is doing another! Far sighted Council I suggest.
    Bernie
     
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  10. bigfoot

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    A limited business director who doesn't see the wider appeal of the business that motorhomers can bring to a community, perhaps he should travel to Germany and France and take a look at the aires and stellaplatz!
     
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    More council which has a USP which others do not have, especially one like North Yorkshire with no passenger ports.
    North Yorkshire Council has no more powers to create an aire than any private company does, because it is not a licensing authority for caravan sites. In the area where these restrictions apply the licensing authority is Scarborough Borough Council. The reason why they will not create aires has been well documented in the past.
     
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    I spent a lot of time on free Aires and still spent my money in the community . I think that's what the poster means !
     
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  13. bigfoot

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    So how did Canterbury do it, was that KCC and if so why only one and why haven't they been more proactive with the situation around Dover? Unless they are expecting ALL motorhomers to use Canterbury P&R,where does that leave the tuggers?
     
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    On the positive side I take it that apart from the exceptions listed I can park anywhere in North Yorkshire. I assume that the exceptions are listed because of particular reasons. Am I being simplistic?

    Dick
     
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    It is Canterbury City Council, not Kent County Council. They opened the facility at the P&R because of their USP of having so many motorhomes use the area to get to and from Dover. As a result of the success they are adding places at Herne Bay and Whitstable to see if they work as well.
    Dover District Council/Dover Joint Transport Board have had no need for such facilities until recently when use of on-street parking started to become a problem. They recognise, however, that there is a demand so, as part of the measures to restrict on-street parking they have instructed officers to look at alternative parking facilities.

    See This Page for details/links.
     
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    Yes, I know :D Just a bit of devilment in response to the post :D
    Not simplistic at all. As I established some years ago, unless there is a restriction in place (normally local rather than national) then it is perfectly legal to camp at the roadside provided waiting/parking restrictions which apply to all vehicles are adhered to.
     
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  17. bigfoot

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    Thanks for your response Graham. So it looks as though there is no overall cohesive policy for provision, each to their own, especially in the 'Republic of Yorkshire'!
     
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    Have you seen GJH's web site.. it helps wade through the mire a little..

    Nationally there is no rule saying you can't park overnight where it is safe and legal to park.. camping is different and setting out an awning and a bbq would probably infringe rules other than parking.. local authorities however have powers to introduce restrictions in areas they are responsible for and those can be complex..
     
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    No Motorhomes eh!

    That ok, I'll go pitch my caravan on the Esplanade.
     
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  20. Wildbill

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    It's not the end of the world still plenty of places to park up in scarbough we go a often and don't have any problems
    it certainly has upset the free loaders though I see many of them come in after 1800 and are up at the crack of dawn to get away before the warden come in the morning AT 0800
    Me I just pay the six pound or what ever it is for 24 hrs at the sea life centre
    WHAT PEVES ME OFF IS THE TWATS THAT EMPTY THARE CASET OVER THE SEA WALL AND FILL THE BINS WITH THARE CRAP
    AND THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THE MOST COMPLANING THE ONES THAT MESED IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE THE FREE LODING TOSSER'S THAT STAYED FOR WEEKS ON END AND :swear2:UP FOR EVERY ONE
    BILL
     
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